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Post Post #3600 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:42 am

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In post 3598, hebichan wrote:Everyone all good with my claim now?
Everybody grant a derpclear to this one!
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Post Post #3601 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:42 am

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In post 3594, TownBlock wrote:sitting here in this thread was pretty useless considering no one wanted to talk :(
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Post Post #3602 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:43 am

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VOTE: TownBlock
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Post Post #3603 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:44 am

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In post 3601, Boem_u_dusi wrote:
In post 3594, TownBlock wrote:sitting here in this thread was pretty useless considering no one wanted to talk :(
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oh ok
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Post Post #3604 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:46 am

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what did you want to talk about dwlee
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Post Post #3605 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:47 am

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Screw it, I'll be pretty busy for the next day or so, and won't be able to follow much. I'm not sure why TownBlock is scum to everyone, but the whole wagon on them can't be scum. I'll just throw in a vote, and maybe we can try again tomorrow.

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Post Post #3606 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:50 am

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In post 3604, RachMarie wrote:what did you want to talk about dwlee
i just wanted people to talk to me about their reads and stuff cause I haven't really read and I wanna get reads on people from their talking to me. Tone reads are pretty dank
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Post Post #3607 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:51 am

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In post 3443, Boem_u_dusi wrote:Vote distribution is terrible, there are too many players with 2-3 votes on them.

I don't know about Shaziro, but we're now in a situation where he's either a
confirmed town
or a confirmed asshole so we're not going to vote in that direction.
Reasoning for the underlined please. There's no logically sound reason to assume that he's confirmed town, and lots of reason within his ISO to believe he probably screwed up a fake claim. And yet ... you're WKing so hard you are basically attempting to speak for the town as if you were the lord high dictator or something.
In post 3471, Boem_u_dusi wrote:@MathBlade we're not lynching Shaziro, mod spewed him clear. Why do you townread TownBlock?
The mod did not say anything that clears Shaziro. You're smart enough to know that, but you're trying to push the idea that he should be viewed as a pseudo-IC. Why?
In post 3476, RachMarie wrote:Someone clamed doc neighbor that needs to be updated

and how did you miss Mediums claim of VT as well?
I'm the doctor/neighbor.
In post 3484, RachMarie wrote:yep that is pretty much my thinking Shaziro but he sure does ping my scumdar on a regular basis while doing it arrrrgggh
He's not at all logically cleared, and you'll note that he's basically ducking his head down and hoping this blows over, while others are doing their best to help him. (See: Boem, Cookie Bakers).
In post 3529, Cookie Bakers wrote:
In post 3526, Shaziro wrote:...CB, you're making answers for them instead of letting them answer. I want to see this flip even more so now.
That's because this push is deflecting from scum and totally ludicrous, just like the push on you.
You know better than to answer for other players. It's irrelevant that you are tunneled in on TB; you don't get a free pass to give cover to others.
In post 3542, hebichan wrote:Mod error? I dunno, why would I fake claim a neighbor?

I mean feel free to lynch me, I am a VT right now.

But seriously. Comparing realities was my neighbor.
The flip says otherwise, which makes you a liar. Why would you fake claim something? Umm... because you're scum? The very fact that people are using "logic" like "scum would never fake claim something like that" is precisely why doing so would be something scum might do.
In post 3548, Cookie Bakers wrote:
In post 3536, Transcend wrote:Your motives confuse me Titus

You're right most of the time, but this feels like confbias to me.
I look at the why of an action and try to make the most plausible assumption. Sometimes its wrong. But if someone would be just absolutely scumclaiming with no pressure or reason is the theory, I'm very disinclined to believe that case. There's no scum motivation in doing what hebi's done.
It was an early claim and just the fact that you're dismissing it so hard is concerning. There's absolutely zero reason to give hebi a pass here and just assume town.
In post 3558, hebichan wrote:Sure but you're starting a wagon on me to try to derail townblock, why do you want to derail townblock so badly?
This post is terrible. This just makes your earlier posts look so much more scummy. This looks like a textbook example of scum opportunism. Deflect from yourself and use someone else's argument to try and put the suspicion onto the person pushing you. When they flip town, you point to the someone else who originally made the argument and skate. Just ewww.


P-edit: And ... rescued by the mod.
PLEASE
take this as an opportunity to be sure you know what your role is clearly and understand it. All mods are okay with you asking questions. You basically were going to get mislynched because you screwed up like the easiest claim ever. And also, post #3558 is still really gross and scummy, for the reasons I pointed out.
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Post Post #3608 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:53 am

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nah, no. check her meta, seriously

VOTE: hebichan

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Post Post #3609 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:57 am

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VOTE: TownBlock

Now that that's cleared up. No the mod didn't say anything that confirmed me as town, yes he did give credence to the fact that I'm not bullshiting. That's lovely can we please lynch actual scum now and let me get night killed by either a big who can't read me or the scum teams who now know exactly how useful I am? Thanks in advance.
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Post Post #3610 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:57 am

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seriously you are voting heb again after the mod just stated that yes there was a mod error in the flip



WHY are more people not voting Lapsa?
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Post Post #3611 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:59 am

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I haven't had a chance to look at Lapsa yet, college life yo. I am at this point more confident in TB scum.
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Post Post #3612 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:01 am

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@Townblock:
Talk to me. Why are you town? Can you show me in your ISO?

Also, on the assumption you are town: have you started working on an info dump for L-1? It would take a lot to convince me enough for me to try and derail your lynch, and I'm not sure I could even if you do convince me, so if you're town, you should be working on an info dump and you should probably
say so
so you don't get lolhammered before you can give it.

But please do make your case for why your ISO should convince us you are town.


P-Edit: too many prob scum and only one lynch available is why Rach. I'll end up on TownBlock if they don't engage with me and convince.
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Post Post #3613 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:04 am

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In post 3609, Shaziro wrote:VOTE: TownBlock

Now that that's cleared up. No the mod didn't say anything that confirmed me as town,
yes he did give credence to the fact that I'm not bullshiting
. That's lovely can we please lynch actual scum now and let me get night killed by either a big who can't read me or the scum teams who now know exactly how useful I am? Thanks in advance.
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In post 3611, Shaziro wrote:I haven't had a chance to look at Lapsa yet, college life yo. I am at this point more confident in TB scum.
If you haven't looked at Lapsa, then how can you be any level of confident that one is more scummy than another? You admitted you have absolutely no idea about the one.
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Post Post #3614 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:05 am

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In post 3610, RachMarie wrote:seriously you are voting heb again after the mod just stated that yes there was a mod error in the flip

WHY are more people not voting Lapsa?
have been burnt hard twice giving out free derpclears -_-
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Post Post #3615 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:06 am

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In post 3608, Lapsa wrote:nah, no. check her meta, seriously

VOTE: hebichan

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What?
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Post Post #3616 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:06 am

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In post 3612, Drixx wrote:
@Townblock:
Talk to me. Why are you town? Can you show me in your ISO?

Also, on the assumption you are town: have you started working on an info dump for L-1? It would take a lot to convince me enough for me to try and derail your lynch, and I'm not sure I could even if you do convince me, so if you're town, you should be working on an info dump and you should probably
say so
so you don't get lolhammered before you can give it.

But please do make your case for why your ISO should convince us you are town.


P-Edit: too many prob scum and only one lynch available is why Rach. I'll end up on TownBlock if they don't engage with me and convince.
I haven't started an info dump, maybe mcmenno has? Idk we haven't talked much. Honestly I don't have much to convince you that I'm town, I was doing well being engaged with the game and then I just steadily began to fall behind as playing as a hydra in a large game is difficult to keep up with cause lots of posts to catch up on (reading tons of pages at a time isn't exactly my strong suit in this game) and having to switch accounts it makes it difficult. I'm here now to talk to and I'm trying to get people to engage me so I can form some assemblage of reads before we (probably) get lynched but that is all I really have.
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Post Post #3617 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:07 am

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In post 3613, Drixx wrote:
In post 3609, Shaziro wrote:VOTE: TownBlock

Now that that's cleared up. No the mod didn't say anything that confirmed me as town,
yes he did give credence to the fact that I'm not bullshiting
. That's lovely can we please lynch actual scum now and let me get night killed by either a big who can't read me or the scum teams who now know exactly how useful I am? Thanks in advance.
No, he didn't. Saying the game wasn't
checked
for normalcy does not contradict the statement that the game is normal. The most one can take from that mod statement is that some roles might function slightly differently than usual, but would still be normal. A variant of follower that acts as a rolecop is explicitly non-normal on this site, and listed as such in the wiki. No mod could possibly use that variant and call the game normal.
In post 3611, Shaziro wrote:I haven't had a chance to look at Lapsa yet, college life yo. I am at this point more confident in TB scum.
If you haven't looked at Lapsa, then how can you be any level of confident that one is more scummy than another? You admitted you have absolutely no idea about the one.
Mod heavily insinuated that some mistakes were made. If that wasn't the case, Shaziro should've been modkilled for angleshooting. That's how I see it.
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Post Post #3618 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:08 am

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I have quite a lot of confidence in one and know nothing about the other. 95% is larger than 0%, or even 50% if you want that to be my "null".
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Post Post #3619 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:08 am

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In post 3615, Boem_u_dusi wrote:
In post 3608, Lapsa wrote:nah, no. check her meta, seriously

VOTE: hebichan

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@boem did you?
What?
check hebichan`s meta
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Post Post #3620 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:10 am

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In post 3619, Lapsa wrote:
In post 3615, Boem_u_dusi wrote:
In post 3608, Lapsa wrote:nah, no. check her meta, seriously

VOTE: hebichan

ISO`ing NY194 atm

@boem did you?
What?
check hebichan`s meta
I'm far too lazy for that shit and I find meta arguments to be completely useless anyway.
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Post Post #3621 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:10 am

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VOTE: Townblock

Hebi, what's your role?

Also don't like boems recent posts
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Post Post #3622 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:12 am

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In post 3620, Boem_u_dusi wrote:I'm far too lazy for that shit and I find meta arguments to be completely useless anyway.
well, to me she appears more than capable for not being treated as a derp

anyway, Rach mistress is getting angry...

VOTE: TownBlock
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Post Post #3623 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:13 am

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>Everyone votes me
>Refuses to interact with me
okay..
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Post Post #3624 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:15 am

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I disagree with your assertion that me asking why lapsa wanted to derail the townblock wagon is scummy.

I am honestly curious. Lapsa has not said the wagon is scum driven or given reasons as to why townblock is not scum.

just that he wants to "derail the wagon"

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My role is citizen/neighbor.

Anyhow. What is lapsa going on with my meta now? I don't recall playing with him.

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