LoL eSports Discussion

[zoraster]

Fnatic vs. H2k delayed until Tuesday because of technical problems. Yikes. That'd be rough in the season much less in the playoffs.

I was pretty excited for the series too. Much more than I will be for G2 vs. UoL or Winner vs. Splyce.

[Voidedmafia]

Fnatic is so lost now. Probly best if they don't get anywhere playing like this.

[BROseidon]

#getrekt

[Voidedmafia]

You have to wonder if things would've been different had they played Sunday like they should've. I think it's entirely possible the delay got to Fnatic a bit.

Given how H2K played I think they still would've lost, but it might've even gone 3-2 or 3-1 instead of a pretty clean sweep.

[zoraster]

I mean, it couldn't have been any worse.

[Voidedmafia]

I mean, it couldn't have been any worse.

3 back-to-back-to-back complete shutouts? (No kills, towers, drakes, or barons)

[dramonic]

The Europe playoffs for world are kinda awkward.
The only way the 3rd place match is of any interest is if G2 and SPY advance to final. G2 vs H2K finals put both at worlds, and any case of G2 not in finals has them autoqualifying from points overload regardless of match results.
That's like... 12% chance of meaningful match.
=/

[Voidedmafia]

G2, H2K, and Splyce are effectively the teams to go to Worlds, so...The only notable lines here are if Giants can go anywhere and how much of this Fnatic is a shadow of itself.

[dramonic]

heh, someone could pull a C9 from last year, you never know about the gauntlet.

[zoraster]

G2, H2K, and Splyce are effectively the teams to go to Worlds, so...The only notable lines here are if Giants can go anywhere and how much of this Fnatic is a shadow of itself.

? I don't think this is correct at all. It may be the teams going, but I wouldn't confuse "perceived team strength now" as "these will be the teams to win out in the gauntlet."

G2 is obviously going as #1 or #2 (doesn't matter for EU!). Everyone else is determined by playing the playoffs out or in the gauntlet.

Unicorns if they don't win it all can finish with up to 100 points, 80 points for third, 50 for fourth
Fnatic finishes with 70
H2K will finish with at least 70 for 4th, 100 for third, 120 for second
Vitality will finish with at least 50 for fourth, 80 for third, 100 for second.
Giants have to play the full gauntlet regardless.

[dramonic]

I guess the only point of the third place match is gauntlet placement?

[zoraster]

Yeah. But that's a pretty big deal if you can escape being #3 or #4 in the gauntlet seeding. Origen being removed made it so everyone from these playoffs gets into the gauntlet.

[Randomnamechange]

heh, someone could pull a C9 from last year, you never know about the gauntlet.

#UoLthedream

[Voidedmafia]

? I don't think this is correct at all. It may be the teams going, but I wouldn't confuse "perceived team strength now" as "these will be the teams to win out in the gauntlet."

I have very little doubt that h2k is not going to be the 2nd team after G2 (although given G2's performance at MSI I'm very

very

wary of them going regardless of their successes), and while I'll grant you Splyce may not be the 3rd, I don't really have much faith in any other team, especially after Fnatic's complete meltdown against H2k last week.

Giants don't have it in them to do it, I think.
Vitality idk about, admittedly.
UoL looked strong against Giants, but idk if they can take on either top seed in playoffs.

[zoraster]

I wouldn't worry about G2 at worlds. They're a different team than the one who went to MSI.

[SleepyKrew]

Why aren't the lpl and lck having their finals at the same night again
last split that was the night panzer and I fell in love

[Voidedmafia]

I wouldn't worry about G2 at worlds. They're a different team than the one who went to MSI.

Believe it when I see it, Zor. Believe it when I see it.

[zoraster]

They still might go out in groups, but that's kinda par for a west team.

[SleepyKrew]

I wouldn't worry about G2 at worlds. They're a different team than the one who went to MSI.

Believe it when I see it, Zor. Believe it when I see it.

they literally changed 3 of their starting 5, and are planning a pre-worlds bootcamp
they could still play poorly but you're being stupid and I don't want you feeling validated if they suck because it won't be for the reasons you think

[BROseidon]

They still might go out in groups, but that's kinda par for a west team.

Yeah, G2 making it out of groups is actually pretty hard with them not being in Pool A for seeding.

[Voidedmafia]

they literally changed 3 of their starting 5, and are planning a pre-worlds bootcamp
they could still play poorly but you're being stupid and I don't want you feeling validated if they suck because it won't be for the reasons you think

Last year TSM went into MSI almost as high as G2 did, and they crapped out in groups, and even though they stayed relevant in Summer they still did abysmal at worlds.

Before you go repeating your point here, yes, I know TSM didn't change their roster for Summer. I'm sure Zven and Mithy have, are, and will do wonders for G2 in the bot lane. But they jilted everyone hard at MSI, so you'll excuse me if I don't immediately put my hands in the air for them because I'd rather not be jilted like that again(and not just because I'm a TSM/Fnatic fan first and foremost).

And yes, I'm flying far higher due to how astounding TSM's turnaround from Spring (and hell, most of 2015 if we're honest) has been, but I want to see them get some good wins against non-IWC teams before I feel like I can keep my gaze skyward. The same is with G2, only I'm going to be looking down a lot more often because I feel like they're a lot closer.

(I never even said I wanted them to fail, btw, because I don't, so don't put those words into my mouth.)

[SleepyKrew]

umm ok?

[zoraster]

Anyyyyway. Splyce beating out H2K kind of surprised me. Wonder with gnar was pretty awesome.

[SleepyKrew]

goddammit IMT needs a fucking coach

[pickemgenius]

all three series today went five games


:O

#HUNINSTALL