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[Naomi-Tan]

Okay middle clicking Q+ has no effect.. Weird system..

[Martha Zolanski]

I been middle clicking the Quote button and then copying that to the tab im working on. Should I like the Q+ button?

I always do that too but try it.

[pitoli]

Whats the difference between Martha Zolanski's Entrance and cass's posts? they both don't really talk about the topic at hand and I desire to know how you got a town read for one and a scum read for another.

I wasn't scum reading Martha Zolanski and I'm not sure that I even am now. I was simply pushing her and I thought it looked pretty bad she jumped on the Gameplay wagon seemingly to force pressure or some sort of rebuttal from Gameplay. Cass at least reacted to Gameplay's posts with comments on tone, which I resonated with.

Martha that's a pretty bad omgus btw

[Naomi-Tan]

So guys if Rb isn't NK'd early, He's scum.

VOTE: RyanK

That red and black pic of you is scummy

This is a bad entrance. Is this RVS or did you just ignore the last few pages?

VOTE: Martha Zolanski

I'm not sure I like rb yet, so I'll wait before I sheep. I can see his points on gameplay though so I don't hate this wagon.

Whats the difference between Martha Zolanski's Entrance and cass's posts? they both don't really talk about the topic at hand and I desire to know how you got a town read for one and a scum read for another.

I wasn't scum reading Martha Zolanski and I'm not sure that I even am now. I was simply pushing her and I thought it looked pretty bad she jumped on the Gameplay wagon seemingly to force pressure or some sort of rebuttal from Gameplay. Cass at least reacted to Gameplay's posts with comments on tone, which I resonated with.

Martha that's a pretty bad omgus btw

Come again?

[pitoli]

Naomi don't make me read those walls all game ffs

[pitoli]

What part are you confused on? I don't know how to explain it more simply.

Martha suspects me because I was pushing her to add any sort of meaningful discussion aside from sheeping and RVSing way past the RVS stage. I admit I misquoted her saying "silly" but to suspect me for the difference is arguing semantics and really flimsy.

[Dierfire]

Hello everyone! It's nice to see some familiar names, and some new friends as well.

I am liking the look of this wagon on gameplay506.

VOTE: gameplay506

Principally this is a Town read on rb more than a Mafia read on gameplay506.
I don't like the entrance from golden009 in 84, as he fails to comment on the wagon, which to me appears to be the most important feature of the game thus far.
I see something somewhat similar by Martha in 71, but this is partially mitigated by 79, 82, and 92.
I don't mind the reactions from pitoli (98) or Naomi-Tan (119), which address the matter directly.

[pitoli]

That's L-2 for Gameplay.

Would love to hear rb's thoughts on the wagon once he wakes up.

[Naomi-Tan]

I expect the walls will be shorter, I was asleep and had 5 pages to catch up and comment on as long as I keep ontop of things we should be fine.

PEdit; I do not care about Martha's suspects on you. I'm currently considering why you thought cass was town when you thought martha was scummy as it seems inconsistent and I wish to explore this.

So my question is how is this;

Ok, I'll try this sheeping thing... see what happens

UNVOTE: Comparing realities
VOTE: Gameplay506

Really a serious vote though, gameplays responses so far seem seriously off. And to my own surprise, I'm starting to like rb's style a lot more.

@Martha - not sure if you mean my post or their back and forth? Are you suggesting they are scum play-acting an argument? Or that it's odd I seem to be choosing between them?

@Naomi: I'd like you to vote for someone or explain why you won't (yet).

@Chuck: Go and Shine already! You can't hold us in suspense any longer!

townie compared to Martha's content upto post 98 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8272417

Also yeah, can we stop this train thats L-2 Its like the first day and we are lynching someone who hasn't really done anything yet based off of RVS reactions this train needs to be de-railed..

[pitoli]

Hello everyone! It's nice to see some familiar names, and some new friends as well.

I am liking the look of this wagon on gameplay506.

VOTE: gameplay506

Principally this is a Town read on rb more than a Mafia read on gameplay506.

Hey Dierfire, is rb someone you've played with before? And if so, are you confident reading them?

[Naomi-Tan]

Hello everyone! It's nice to see some familiar names, and some new friends as well.

I am liking the look of this wagon on gameplay506.

VOTE: gameplay506

Principally this is a Town read on rb more than a Mafia read on gameplay506.

Hey Dierfire, is rb someone you've played with before? And if so, are you confident reading them?

I played my last game with them. this doesn't match there style IMO but I'm putting that upto it being RVS If I remember he was much more chaotic in RVS so Its not too suspicious.

[pitoli]

@Naomi

: I agree with the line of reasoning in this post and tend to think it comes from town.

No RyanK, I don't agree about post 24, that doesn't look scummy to me.

I thought Gameplay getting genuinely annoyed (Game's post 56 and 62) after rb voted him (which is

after

the slug-fest, hah) was an overreaction at that point. I could ofcourse be misreading tone here. Such a strong response to a vote at this stage is good enough reason to add mine.

[Dierfire]

Hey Dierfire, is rb someone you've played with before? And if so, are you confident reading them?

I don't recall playing any prior games with rb, and I have no special confidence in my ability to read rb compared to any other player.

[Naomi-Tan]

@Naomi

: I agree with the line of reasoning in this post and tend to think it comes from town.

No RyanK, I don't agree about post 24, that doesn't look scummy to me.

I thought Gameplay getting genuinely annoyed (Game's post 56 and 62) after rb voted him (which is

after

the slug-fest, hah) was an overreaction at that point. I could ofcourse be misreading tone here. Such a strong response to a vote at this stage is good enough reason to add mine.

Ah I skipped over that quote thinking it was too far back to be relevant to what you was saying. well then I guess thats cool I still want to see more from them in the future though. Thanks for explaining.

[pitoli]

I don't recall playing any prior games with rb, and I have no special confidence in my ability to read rb compared to any other player.

Okay. What makes him your strongest townread?

[golden009]

I don't like the entrance from golden009 in 84, as he fails to comment on the wagon, which to me appears to be the most important feature of the game thus far.

My opinion on the wagon is that it's reasonable, but I'm waiting for Gameplay to reply to vote (and put it at L-1 at this point).

In the meantime, I'd like to see Naomi-Tan respond to this:

@Naomi - how am I supposed to interpret the fact that you'rre pre-announcing that you pre-announced this thing last game? I don't think LAMIST is a scumtell (it's NAI) and I find it weird that you'd be so on edge about this. Again conveniently explained that you're like this as both town AND scum but that's what scum would say too.

What's the reason you told us this?

[Naomi-Tan]

I don't like the entrance from golden009 in 84, as he fails to comment on the wagon, which to me appears to be the most important feature of the game thus far.

My opinion on the wagon is that it's reasonable, but I'm waiting for Gameplay to reply to vote (and put it at L-1 at this point).

In the meantime, I'd like to see Naomi-Tan respond to this:

@Naomi - how am I supposed to interpret the fact that you'rre pre-announcing that you pre-announced this thing last game? I don't think LAMIST is a scumtell (it's NAI) and I find it weird that you'd be so on edge about this. Again conveniently explained that you're like this as both town AND scum but that's what scum would say too.

What's the reason you told us this?

If your wondering why I'm just openily announcing this right at the start its because in my last town game it sorta came out naturally while I was sleepy in this really deep self reflective sorta conversation with another player (review My last game on the first 4 pages to see that naturally) and afterwards It helped me as I could point back to it and say; 'hey this is something I already pointed out I do, stop trying to use it as a scum tell' So.. as It kinda worked well and made others understand my thoughts sometimes I thought I'd just open with it this time.

[pitoli]

Golden, what do you think of Naomi not voting?

[Naomi-Tan]

Pitoli what do you think of me not voting?

[pitoli]

Pitoli what do you think of me not voting?

I don't think you're scummy for it, but I'd prefer if you used your vote.

[golden009]

Mixed feelings. I can understand why town-Naomi would do it (if town-Naomi behaves like she said she does in her intro post), but if you look at it without knowing about earlier games, it's very meh.

[Naomi-Tan]

Pitoli what do you think of me not voting?

I don't think you're scummy for it, but I'd prefer if you used your vote.

I didn't really have anywhere I was going with this, just thought I'd ask as you didn't give your feelings before asking someone else.

[pitoli]

Mixed feelings. I can understand why town-Naomi would do it (if town-Naomi behaves like she said she does in her intro post), but if you look at it without knowing about earlier games, it's very meh.

Are you satisfied with her explanation 141?

[Naomi-Tan]

Mixed feelings. I can understand why town-Naomi would do it (if town-Naomi behaves like she said she does in her intro post), but if you look at it without knowing about earlier games, it's very meh.

Are you satisfied with her explanation 141?

Technically I just quoted my original posts section of the explanation.

[pitoli]

Naomi, just let me talk to him xD