Newbie 1732 [Game Over!]: InnocentVille

[implosion]

I think this day has gone its course. shannon, I agree that tne/chrimi aren't working together but that doesn't mean tne is a bad lynch. I think I've made my poe fairly clear here; Drone/Cass are the main people who I'm looking at for scum, and tne isn't too far off of Drone.

VOTE: tne

[AstralFlare]

Are people advocating TNE just as an information lynch? When we have one mislynch left?

[Cass]

I'm not. It'd be much better to lynch scum and not go into lylo. Still got my vote somewhere else for a reason. The reason I can sort of support the lynch is that by logical deduction, there is a real chance that tne is scum. But I can't quite make myself believe it (by gut / intuition). However, if we're going to lynch a townie, it'd best be tne - because going into lylo with her alive seems very risky. So, that's the fence I'm sitting on.
I want to lynch scum much more than I want (ambiguous at best) information. And preferably that roleblocker. How about lynching Implosion then? I like that risk better, and better odds of getting the RB. (I'd still be ok with a Drone lynch too, but support for that looks lower.) But can enough people agree on anyone besides TNE? Because time is running out and no lynch does not look better.
UNVOTE: Drone
VOTE: Implosion

[AstralFlare]

better odds of getting the RB

why do you say so?

But can enough people agree on anyone besides TNE? Because time is running out and no lynch does not look better.

Agreed. The only circumstance in which I will advocate for a tne lynch is one in which there's less than two days on the dateline and town hasn't coalesced around a target. Failing that, I am open to a lynch on any of implosion, Drone, PP.

[AstralFlare]

My PoE goes as such:

Chrimi/Shannon conf town
Cass has very much had the same thought processes as me, so town as well
TNE is weaker town, but this is consistent with her meta- it's just a very dgaf sort of playstyle that I feel is pretty NAI

leaving Implosion, PP and Drone

[shannon]

Implosion has put TNE back at L-1, just for everyone's info.

I'd like to be the one to hammer if that's, OK? In case we have totally kicked ass and TNE is the roleblocker, I'm keen to get enough info to make a good guess tonight.

In retrospect I'm still glad I claimed today, I think. Even if I'd jailed TNE again tonight, we still wouldn't have a clear picture - we wouldn't know whether a no result *or* a kill meant that TNE was scum, since there's a team of 2. I think we've got a better chance of getting one of them now that everyone knows what's going on. Time will tell.

[shannon]

TNE would you mind sharing your reads list with reasons please? If you're town, the info you give will be very helpful tomorrow.

[Cass]

better odds of getting the RB

why do you say so?

Because she was Jailkept. I'd guess that scum like to spread risks when they can, and have one kill, the other roleblock. Not 100%, but seems logical. Also, if TNE is scum, her partner(who ever that is, I don't know and haven't really considered it) must have been bussing her at some point. (Unless it's me... but I know I'm not.) That also reduces the chance she is the RB on that team.
If Implosion is scum he'd be a dangerous scum either way, being or coaching the RB. (Also, scummier imo, so better odds to begin with.)

But can enough people agree on anyone besides TNE? Because time is running out and no lynch does not look better.

Agreed. The only circumstance in which I will advocate for a tne lynch is one in which there's less than two days on the dateline and town hasn't coalesced around a target. Failing that, I am open to a lynch on any of implosion, Drone, PP.

That's fine with me. I'll leave the tne hammer, as requested - and if it happens - to Shannon.

[shannon]

Yeah I think if I was in a scum team I'd want to mix up the roleblocking and killing, that makes sense.

The really big question here is whether we think TNE is more likely to be scum than anyone else. Because it's possible that I jailkept a townie, or that Chrimi was shot and is BP.

[thenewearth]

The reasons really don't matter at this point

[thenewearth]

Wow I actually have a town list

Chrimi
Shannon
Cass

Scum is implosion

So that's me, Shannon, Cass, Chrimi

4-4

4-3-Implosion

JK one of the 3

4-2-JK'd-Implosion

PoE the fuck out of it

[shannon]

You know I almost jked implosion last night but changed my mind to you at the last second, based in almost nothing. Is it implosion's style to nk someone who has narrowly escaped being lynched? I don't know but at this point I think a risk could be worth it.

Also interesting: implosion has cass, drone, tune as scum
Tne has implosion as scum, cass as town
Chrimi didn't want to be grouped as town with cass and me in tne's list

What does anyone think of pp and af?

[AstralFlare]

What does anyone think of pp

looking a little more towny

TNE to confirm, you're saying second scum is one of Drone/PP/I

[thenewearth]

Should be

[innocentvillager]

Mod Notes

	VOTECOUNT 2.4
Player	Being voted by (in chronological order)	Number of Votes
1. Cass
2. AstralFlare
3. PenguinPower
5. Drone
6. Chrimi
7. thenewearth	PenguinPower, Chrimi, Drone, implosion	4 (L-1)!!
8. shannon
9. implosion	thenewearth, Cass	2

Not voting: AstralFlare, shannon

Deadline to lynch is in (expired on 2016-09-06 12:09:21).

With 8 eligible to vote, it's 5 to lynch

Please let me know if there are errors in the VC, or have any other questions in general. Don't forget to bold such requests to me.

[Chrimi]

Implosion isn't scum.

I understand if you think tne is town and want to start a different wagon, but please choose someone actually scummy- Like AstralFlare, Cass, Drone, Penguin.. I know that's most of the playerlist but implosion just isn't scum. None of his posts make sense coming from scum, his thought process is town.. There isn't even a real case on him except people just saying "yeah I guess implosion is scum: vote"

[thenewearth]

AF I would definitely do

[shannon]

What does anyone think of pp

looking a little more towny

TNE to confirm, you're saying second scum is one of Drone/PP/I

No, I was just asking the question, no implication behind it. I just hadn't seen those names mentioned much lately.

[Cass]

Giving note that my internet connection is being dysfunctional. I hope it gets fixed soon, but if I seem to disappear, that's why.

[AstralFlare]

If anyone is going to hammer please make it fast. Claiming, deciding whether to hammer, getting last words— all these take time. Time we no longer have. There's a little over three days left to go.

If no one, we need to find another "consensus candidate".

[thenewearth]

now I'm DEFINITELY for AF

[AstralFlare]

Yep because town!Astral totally couldn't have written that post.

[AstralFlare]

Like, why would town want a lynch??!?

[AstralFlare]

No, I was just asking the question, no implication behind it. I just hadn't seen those names mentioned much lately.

Weird, because it seems half the player base wants to lynch me

[shannon]

Alright, let's end this now. None of us knows the truth besides scum, but all I know is that I thought TNE was scummy enough to jailkeep and there wasn't a NK, and her behaviour asking for a claim was scummy when D2 started. No point having her around in 'uncertainty' D3, for the same reasons that she herself wanted to avoid having a BP claim wait until that time.

VOTE: TNE


That should be the hammer.

In case that's not a roleblocker, good luck town.