STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[farside22]

Well in my second sentence I did.
It's a work in progress nc

[grapes]

Cakes if we're lynching chara you ally me tonight or it's a scumclaim.

[grapes]

Not Chara is a demon, not a newb.

[SirCakez]

That was poorly worded. More like a lot less active as compared to you and grapes.
That's dodging the point of that question though.

No it isn't. In no universe is A50 a[youtube][/youtube] lurker. We both know he's town. I was the target of last resort.

You are clearly dodging the point
The point is that A50 or grapes would have been easier and better pushes for me to make as scum
You haven't said anything about that at all

STILL dodging this I see

Calling it a night now

Not a dodge. The pair are unassailable. That's my point.

This is outright false, just look at the quotes I have below

Every single allegation about Sera, Almost50, McMenno, and others is lurking, yet not a single one remembers Klingon.

This post says outright there are allegegations against A50

So far my scummish pile is foxbird/shiro/klingon. They all feel like they're coasting and I haven't seen much from them that gives me any reason to think that they're trying solve the game at all.

Klingon is the worst because she's made the most posts and they've all been noise outside of a few bad questions and a forced SR on fire which doesn't feel like something she believes in.

VOTE: Grapes

Your white-knighting for Firebringer is noted.

And he is a Scumread.

Hey, Townies, my vote on Grapes is sheep-worthy.

And here is someone pushing grapes right now

They're not "unassailable"

Cakes if we're lynching chara you ally me tonight or it's a scumclaim.

We're not lynching Chara, her reaction where she gave up was town AF

Can you respond to her analysis of what went down in the hood between you two?

[grapes]

And here is someone pushing grapes right now

Yea but look who it is. LOL

I did respond and nothing about what he said went down in the hood isn't just stretched to try and make me look bad.
There's only so much I can do while being active in thread during an 8 hour period. His posts in the hood aren't town.

[grapes]

We're not lynching Chara, her reaction where she gave up was town AF

Where did they "give up"

What looked town about it?

[grapes]

I'll give my own in depth run down of the posts actually. Since this appears to be a thing that scum think town are gonna bite into.

[SirCakez]

i give up.

that doesn't mean i'm going anywhere. i'll be here to talk all night. if SirCakez is scum then i'll buy OWK as town. out of my 'buddies', SirCakez is the one most likely to be scum. i don't even know if anyone is townreading him anymore. Rational could also be scum but honestly i'd rather see them investigated, or something. i'd say something snide about OWK at this point but i promised myself i wouldn't interact with them anymore.
i almost want to be lynched just to watch mastin, OWK, and grapes experience some form of online whiplash. for varying reasons, because mastin is town.

for the record, i don't think i'll be lynched today. those who have expressed support have already voted. there might be a few lazy stragglers/lurking scum who might join, but i don't see them reaching a majority. i'll see if i can't continue to put my foot in my mouth for the rest of the day, though.

town i am 95% sure on is Firebringer, farside, Yume, mastin, and Seraphim.
i am 100% certain there is a scum on my wagon. it's probably grapes. it could be grapes and OWK. it is... possibly Almost50, but if both grapes and OWK are scum i would not bet money on it.

VOTE: SirCakez

pedit: oh, fantastic. Cakez changed his read on me after one post while i was typing this. now this will look reactionary. because this game wasn't difficult enough.
Skybird, we aren't having a fight. grapes is scum. i outed that because they're scum and also because grapes was looking to ally with other town players.

This post grapes
The feeling I get from the post is super similar to the one I usually get as town getting mislynched, super frustrated and dejected

And here is someone pushing grapes right now

Yea but look who it is. LOL

I did respond and nothing about what he said went down in the hood isn't just stretched to try and make me look bad.
There's only so much I can do while being active in thread during an 8 hour period. His posts in the hood aren't town.

Yeah it's just Klingon but someone is pushing you. That's not "unassailable".

That is what I was concerned about which is why I want your perspective on it.

[farside22]

Not Chara is a demon, not a newb.

Don't dodge my question grapes.

And here is someone pushing grapes right now

Yea but look who it is. LOL

I did respond and nothing about what he said went down in the hood isn't just stretched to try and make me look bad.
There's only so much I can do while being active in thread during an 8 hour period. His posts in the hood aren't town.

So from your view what was said in the PT between you.

[SirCakez]

I'll be back this afternoon

[Skybird]

Sir Cakez, can you explain your town read on NC? Or point me to the post where you explained it? What do you think about NC outing Grapes' role?

p-edit: I'll be back this evening.

[Yume]

Well, I was gonna try and remain calm, but 1582 triggers me, given how many times I was frustrated at being mislynched and wasn't town read for it, yet he gets a pass due to that very same frustration?

[grapes]

I asked him what his reads were and he threw a bunch of naked ones at me.
I told him I'd look into his obi push, realized his iso was a labryth and asked him to summarize why he they were scum in a few sentences.
He drops an entire case in there with bulletpoints.

And at that point. Between all the "can't wait to talk tonight" and "ill be around for a while" stuff.

It just wasn't a good vibe.

Asked him if he'd be willing to claim. He was townreading me but it was hard to get a sense of how strong.
Said he doesn't trust me. That's fine.

But of the questions I asked. My questions about obi seemed to illicit the most reaction. Which makes sense being his top scumread.
Titus towned up a fuck of a lot from day start and that was one of the things I noticed so figured I'd ask about it.
And I remember not resonating with his push at all. Like the things he was bringing up felt more like small forgivable slight inconsistancies that I'd make pushes for as scum. Particularly people like titus who isn't always easy to understand anyway.

My judgment call was. Yes, this push is omgus and malicious and not genuine. At that point I disengaged from the hood and put full focus in the thread on pushing my scumreads.

Later he says "you know for someone who claims to sort in hoods you sure aren't sorting me"

This is posturing.

Later finally he brings up that he didn't gain any alliance bonuses and asked me if it could have anything to do with me.

Before I can respond, he votes me in thread for concluding that my role is more likely to be a scum role.

So where from day start until then did the realization happen that he didn't get alliance bonuses because of me?

When it was the most convenient for him.

[grapes]

Vote for Not Chara.

[Not Chara]

Not Chara is a demon, not a newb.

grapes is still giving me good material for a signature.

[Yume]

That said, if you, farside, hope to get me out of the game by riling me up and getting me force replaced, that's not gonna work cos I have my neighbour/mason buddy to calm me down.

[Not Chara]

"small, forgivable, light inconsistencies", grapes? you're living in a fantasy.

or, pretending to read me as if i know you or Titus.
you should know why i wanted to ally with you early on. it should be

obvious

. and no, i won't answer questions about this.

[farside22]

Not Chara is a demon, not a newb.

grapes is still giving me good material for a signature.

What did you think of grapes take on what happened in the pt?

[Not Chara]

everything they spoke about happened. including me using a bit more than three sentences to talk about OWK, for example.

they refused to see my thought process as anything but scum because it didn't *resonate* with them. no thinking about me or my position.
they even brought up that 'things are the things i would push Titus on' as scum, as if what grapes would do means anything. as if i'm supposed to know that Titus is always this inconsistent and full of assumptions.
the rest of it is just that i gave off 'bad vibes' for being friendly, i guess.
does being overdramatic about the scumminess of the new player you're pushing count as a scumtell? :> (joke)

[Not Chara]

asked about the ability in the neighbourhood, then realized that there was really no other way for it to happen except by it being part of grapes role. after i asked the question i began to worry that grapes might use that point against me after i'd asked about it, so i revealed it in the thread. i don't feel bad about doing it because they wouldn't have revealed it if i hadn't. they were looking for townreads to ally with.

[Firebringer]

I am really starting to think that Kling isn't just bad reading but scum trying to fake a read.
I can go into that more later I think.

It just feels out of place all game, and doesn't feel like she believes it.
I think grapes mentioned that before, but I agree with it.

Meh.

I could swing wagon that way, but mcmenno still hasn't answered for his crimes of being a block.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

@SirCakez - I'm sorry, I meant unassailable with anything true. Kinda figured that was evident.

@Firebringer, It's been 5 hours since McMenno's last post according to the overview. Just how does he have anything to answer for?

@Farside, Please link me using post tags to what you think I have ignored. Given my near constant pleading for your town case on NC, please don't act like I am not trying to hear you.

[Firebringer]

You serious?
His last post was basically prod dodging.

[Firebringer]

hey klinconcelt, rando, yume and twie... vote me you cowards

more coherent thoughts when I'm not phoneposting

possibly

[Yume]

VOTE: Not Chara