Queen of Hearts [Game Over]

Ankamius · Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:31 pm

Yeah, claim your result. There's literally no reason not to in this situation if you're telling the truth.

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:34 pm

i mean it's probably on PV i'd guess but that's not really important. we should prob just finish the mass claim then go from there

Ankamius · Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:37 pm

Nah, PV's likely town.

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:38 pm

im saying that's who the guilty is probably on

Ankamius · Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:42 pm

Considering he specifically said the guilty was on somebody that wasn't listed in this post, that would be a bit of a mindfuck.

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:44 pm

he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list

Maestro · Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:00 pm

In post 1380, zMuffinMan wrote:he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list

^^^

I'm not claiming my Guilty until everyone has claimed, and I think there's very solid reasons (especially from my PoV) to not claim it before that and/or at all.

iraonavp · Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:24 pm

No, there aren't any solid reasons.

Maestro · Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:28 pm

In post 1382, iraonavp wrote:No, there aren't any solid reasons.

iraonavp · Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:29 pm

If you didn't care, why did you even respond?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:46 pm

In post 1381, Maestro wrote:
In post 1380, zMuffinMan wrote:he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list
^^^

I'm not claiming my Guilty until everyone has claimed, and I think there's very solid reasons (especially from my PoV) to not claim it before that and/or at all.

Then why say anything at all? This feels like a gambit.

iraonavp · Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:56 pm

VOTE: SirCakez

For bussing FROOTLOOP and Katsuki.

Maestro · Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:10 pm

In post 1386, iraonavp wrote:VOTE: SirCakez

For bussing FROOTLOOP and Katsuki.

This is why nobody cares what you think. You play Mafia like I play UNO.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:54 pm

In post 1381, Maestro wrote:
In post 1380, zMuffinMan wrote:he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list
^^^

I'm not claiming my Guilty until everyone has claimed, and I think there's very solid reasons (especially from my PoV) to not claim it before that and/or at all.

smart

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:54 pm

In post 1381, Maestro wrote:
In post 1380, zMuffinMan wrote:he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list
^^^

I'm not claiming my Guilty until everyone has claimed, and I think there's very solid reasons (especially from my PoV) to not claim it before that and/or at all.

In post 1385, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1381, Maestro wrote:
In post 1380, zMuffinMan wrote:he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list
^^^

I'm not claiming my Guilty until everyone has claimed, and I think there's very solid reasons (especially from my PoV) to not claim it before that and/or at all.

Then why say anything at all? This feels like a gambit.

let's just go ahead and not try to discredit the cop guilty

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:56 pm

In post 1386, iraonavp wrote:VOTE: SirCakez

For bussing FROOTLOOP and Katsuki.

I don't even care if he's scum at this point, I just want him to stop posting

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:58 pm

In post 1356, zMuffinMan wrote:probably better to just lynch the guilty today

while this is true generally, I think he does have a point about his possible paranoia

iirc the Queen of Hearts was very "off with their head!" and that would make sense flavor-wise as a paranoid cop

iraonavp · Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:11 pm

In post 1388, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1381, Maestro wrote:
In post 1380, zMuffinMan wrote:he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list
^^^

I'm not claiming my Guilty until everyone has claimed, and I think there's very solid reasons (especially from my PoV) to not claim it before that and/or at all.
smart

Is this sarcastic? Because what Maestro is suggesting is withholding information for no reason...

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:17 pm

it was not sarcastic, but I will be pretty disappointed if he doesn't reveal his target after the mass claim is done

Maestro · Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:19 pm

In post 1392, iraonavp wrote:
In post 1388, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1381, Maestro wrote:
In post 1380, zMuffinMan wrote:he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list
^^^

I'm not claiming my Guilty until everyone has claimed, and I think there's very solid reasons (especially from my PoV) to not claim it before that and/or at all.
smart
Is this sarcastic? Because what Maestro is suggesting is withholding information for no reason...

I do have reasons. I outlined them in my claim-post. If you don't agree with them, it does not make them wrong, and it does not mean they do not exist. It just means you don't agree with them. I'm not sharing my Guilty until we have a full massclaim

AND

the majority of living players say they would rather lynch the Guilty. This being a gambit makes no sense if I were Scum.

Do you want me to go over why I'm not sharing the Guilty, iraonavp? Step by step? In a slow voice?

iraonavp · Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:27 pm

In post 1394, Maestro wrote:
In post 1392, iraonavp wrote:
In post 1388, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1381, Maestro wrote:
In post 1380, zMuffinMan wrote:he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list
^^^

I'm not claiming my Guilty until everyone has claimed, and I think there's very solid reasons (especially from my PoV) to not claim it before that and/or at all.
smart
Is this sarcastic? Because what Maestro is suggesting is withholding information for no reason...
I do have reasons. I outlined them in my claim-post. If you don't agree with them, it does not make them wrong, and it does not mean they do not exist. It just means you don't agree with them. I'm not sharing my Guilty until we have a full massclaim
AND
the majority of living players say they would rather lynch the Guilty. This being a gambit makes no sense if I were Scum.

Do you want me to go over why I'm not sharing the Guilty, iraonavp? Step by step? In a slow voice?

Yes.

You did not outline any reasons because a massclaim doesn't help us find out your sanity...

Maestro · Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:31 pm

Here, I'll be a big boy and help everybody out.

Alive

zMuffinMan claims to be
White Rabbit
,
Herald
, and
Town
Vanilla Townie
Untrod Tripod
Ankamius claims to be
Mad Hatter
,
Madman
, and
Town
Vanilla Townie
SirCakez
iraonavp claims to be
Card Guard
,
Six of Hearts
, and
Town
Compulsive Bodyguard
kraska77
Wingback

Marquis
PeregrineV
Harkonnen97
curiouskarmadog
Maestro
thenewearth
claims to be
Etanea
,
Queen of Hearts
, and
Town
Doublevoting Cop/Honorable Vigilante

Dead

The Bulge, who was
Card Guard
,
Five of Hearts
, and
Town
Compulsive Bodyguard
, has been
lynched
in
Day 1
.
grapes, who was
Cheshire Cat
,
Riddler
, and
Town
Vanilla Townie
, has been
killed
in
Night 1
.
Katsuki, who was
Alexa
,
Alice

reinvented
, and
Mafia
1-Shot Bulletproof Bookie
, has been
lynched
in
Day 2
.
Blitzkrieg
Spiffeh
, who was
Card Guard
,
Jack of Hearts
, and
Town
Compulsive Bodyguard
, has been
killed
in
Night 2
.
Seraphim, who was
XVIth
,
Alice
forgotten
, and
Town
Neighborizer/Neighborhood Vigilante
, has been
killed
in
Night 2
.
Froot Loop, who was
Card Guard
,
Ten of Hearts
, and
Mafia
Bodyguard/Flavor Cop
, has been
lynched
in
Day 3
.
Vedith, who was
Leica
,
Alice

Anagrammed
, and
Town
Miller Novice Roleblocking Vigilante
, has been
killed
in
Night 3
.
DrippingGoofball, who was
Card Guard
,
Nine of Hearts
, and
Town
Compulsive Bodyguard
, has been
killed
in
Night 3
.

Did I miss any?

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:33 pm

Who's up next?

Maestro · Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:36 pm

In post 1395, iraonavp wrote:Yes.

You did not outline any reasons because a massclaim doesn't help us find out your sanity...

Massclaim is standard procedure in a theme game like this when we're down to 1-2 more Scum maximum and the game can be pieced together through Night Action and VC analysis or just simple PoE. Finding out my sanity has nothing to do with it. There's no 100% provable way for me / us to prove my sanity even if we DO lynch whoever I have a Guilty on, because I could've gotten luck and hit Scum after my predecessor did the same thing, or I could be completely sane but

WE WILL NOT KNOW MY SANITY UNTIL THE GAME IS OVER AND THE MOD TELLS US

.

If you thought about it for more than a fucking millisecond you'd also realize why a massclaim is especially beneficial in this situation. Either way, we need to finish it. We should skip kraska if they're never going to post.

PEDIT: kraska

Maestro · Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:39 pm

Btw @ira / @ckd, I'm not sure if you realize it, but I almost singlehandedly switched the lynch to Froot Loop yesterday hours from deadline. I never in a million years would've needed to do that, nor would I have wanted to do that, if I were somehow a Scum double-voter in this setup. You have no fucking ground to stand on if you want to try and discredit my result or the fact that I'm Town. So you can stop trying right now.