Shadowrun Mafia - Game Over

[Albert B. Rampage]

I could likely compromise on ANY of the other 5 players. Why do you always want to lynch in my townreads?

-S

OK, randomidget.

[MathBlade]

Randomidget has a case. I could do random midget if we aren't lynching Worldz.

[MathBlade]

Would rather lynch Worldz as only you are screaming they are town and you screamed I am scum for a bunch of pages and arent even sure on that. I want Worldz or random today if people don't listen on Worldz.

[MathBlade]

Because hint I am the towniest town player that ever towned.

[SooperDetective]

Is it because you prefer to lynch randomidget?

I am telling you worldz is town why can't you listen to me. He's town. You're town. I'm town. Let's cooperate.

Why are you so convinced that worldz is town? Is it because of the bounty? Understanding your reasons would help me have more of a reasonable interaction with you. You haven't really discussed Worldz or why you're so adamant he's town, just like you haven't discussed PV or why he's scum. I get the general impression of you pushing things without much depth. I get that you're trying to reach a conclusion today but it doesn't help me understand your perspective, or reach a compromise, when I don't understand your motivation.

I'm more comfortable moving onto random today, but your play (ABR) has me really worried.

Vote: randomidget

-Froot

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: randomidget

[WorldzMine]

Is it because you prefer to lynch randomidget?

I am telling you worldz is town why can't you listen to me. He's town. You're town. I'm town. Let's cooperate.

Why are you so convinced that worldz is town? Is it because of the bounty? Understanding your reasons would help me have more of a reasonable interaction with you. You haven't really discussed Worldz or why you're so adamant he's town, just like you haven't discussed PV or why he's scum. I get the general impression of you pushing things without much depth. I get that you're trying to reach a conclusion today but it doesn't help me understand your perspective, or reach a compromise, when I don't understand your motivation.


-Froot

I second this (not to pressure my only supporter), but the reasons behind all your reads would help. You are correct on me, but me and you saying that isn't going to help much. I've laid out my reasons previously, even if most don't want to accept them. I've admitted that, I haven't did towny things, but that's from frustration and from a lack of information still. TBH, I'd be more likely to be scum IF I was trying to appear helpful, although I don't expect others to believe that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote randomidget dude.

[JaeReed]

VOTE: random

Sorry if you felt insulted ABR, that wasn't my intent.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: random

Sorry if you felt insulted ABR, that wasn't my intent.

Nah we're cool I'm excited for the mission tonight.

[SooperDetective]

I'm V/LA until Friday, hopefully pop-in a bit and see what's up

-Froot

[karnos]

Do you want me to vote for randommidget so everyone thinks he must be town, or just let the lynch happen?

[Klingoncelt]

I'm more comfortable with this than voting PereV.

VOTE: Randomidget

[WorldzMine]

VOTE: Vote RandomMidget

[MathBlade]

Do you want me to vote for randommidget so everyone thinks he must be town, or just let the lynch happen?

Lololol This is a scumslip XD

VOTE: Randomidget

[SooperDetective]

Do you want me to vote for randommidget so everyone thinks he must be town, or just let the lynch happen?

Lololol This is a scumslip XD

VOTE: Randomidget

Why so?


Btw

WARNING: L-1
Proceed with caution
but proceed nonetheless.

[PeregrineV]

I'll iso first, but will probably hammer unless good reason not to.

[PeregrineV]

He kind of claimed. But give him more time or no?

[Daenerys and Dragons]

He doesn't take strong stances like this as scum this early. He uses cautious words like "think".

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p7926610

That is from Mass Effect.

PV is still a lurker but their post count is already 10 higher than all of Mass Effect. And PV wasn't lynched til like day a billion and a half.

Have you ever seen PV games outside of mass effect?
Look at Borderlands/Street Fighter. There's a huge, obvious difference between his games.

We are not spoof.

PV is town because
- his tone sounds genuine.
- his 'fuck off abr you dont know what you are doing' is a town reaction.


538 and 539 are risky as scum.
590 is good because he gives something few ppl give: REASONS
From 1101 on he cuts through karnos' bullshit. I like that.
And his latest post do have content and theyre trying to wipe the shit out of everyone's eyes.

There's nothing risky about those posts
He's given reasoning for reads as scum before
"cutting through the bullshit" is just reiterating what everyone has already accused Karnos of
His recent posts have no content

@D&D: why is PV obvscum?
The confscum was on the PV wagon as well. For quite some time. Is random scum because he lurks? I dont think that AI. Dont get me wrong, im not townreading him, but him being on the wagon isnt fishy at all. I find it way worse that people join the PV wagon without being given a case, and without giving reasons themselves. Thats opportunistic sheeping.

Because this is just like how he has played as scum before and people are giving literally every excuse possible to avoid voting him, while going to every single other counterwagon

a random lynch is OK, but definitely not what I'd prefer.

-dragons

[MathBlade]

Do you want me to vote for randommidget so everyone thinks he must be town, or just let the lynch happen?

Lololol This is a scumslip XD

VOTE: Randomidget

Why so?


Btw

WARNING: L-1
Proceed with caution
but proceed nonetheless.

Because this post practically screams of asking what to do to someone like a strategic post I would expect of Karnos in a game like 1800.
Because it asks if everyone should think Random is town strongly implying random is scum.
It is asking advice for what to do instead of just playing. Karnos and I specifically bounced ideas off each other a lot.

Random needs rope.

Prepare to eat lead conf scum.

[MathBlade]

He kind of claimed. But give him more time or no?

Not seeing where he "kind of" claimed.
It is a weekend.
Give random time to come on much as I think it was a scumslip he does deserve time to come on.

[MathBlade]

He doesn't take strong stances like this as scum this early. He uses cautious words like "think".

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p7926610

That is from Mass Effect.

PV is still a lurker but their post count is already 10 higher than all of Mass Effect. And PV wasn't lynched til like day a billion and a half.

Have you ever seen PV games outside of mass effect?
Look at Borderlands/Street Fighter. There's a huge, obvious difference between his games.

We are not spoof.

PV is town because
- his tone sounds genuine.
- his 'fuck off abr you dont know what you are doing' is a town reaction.


538 and 539 are risky as scum.
590 is good because he gives something few ppl give: REASONS
From 1101 on he cuts through karnos' bullshit. I like that.
And his latest post do have content and theyre trying to wipe the shit out of everyone's eyes.

There's nothing risky about those posts
He's given reasoning for reads as scum before
"cutting through the bullshit" is just reiterating what everyone has already accused Karnos of
His recent posts have no content

@D&D: why is PV obvscum?
The confscum was on the PV wagon as well. For quite some time. Is random scum because he lurks? I dont think that AI. Dont get me wrong, im not townreading him, but him being on the wagon isnt fishy at all. I find it way worse that people join the PV wagon without being given a case, and without giving reasons themselves. Thats opportunistic sheeping.

Because this is just like how he has played as scum before and people are giving literally every excuse possible to avoid voting him, while going to every single other counterwagon

a random lynch is OK, but definitely not what I'd prefer.

-dragons

I haven't participated with PV but I have looked at samples of his games. But it has been a while. Link me?

I would like a night to sit and review PV's posts and compare them.

Right now my gut says he is town. However if that difference is strong I could be wrong. He definitely isn't a top town read like JaeReed by any means.

[SooperDetective]

He doesn't take strong stances like this as scum this early. He uses cautious words like "think".

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p7926610

That is from Mass Effect.

PV is still a lurker but their post count is already 10 higher than all of Mass Effect. And PV wasn't lynched til like day a billion and a half.

Have you ever seen PV games outside of mass effect?
Look at Borderlands/Street Fighter. There's a huge, obvious difference between his games.

We are not spoof.

PV is town because
- his tone sounds genuine.
- his 'fuck off abr you dont know what you are doing' is a town reaction.


538 and 539 are risky as scum.
590 is good because he gives something few ppl give: REASONS
From 1101 on he cuts through karnos' bullshit. I like that.
And his latest post do have content and theyre trying to wipe the shit out of everyone's eyes.

There's nothing risky about those posts
He's given reasoning for reads as scum before
"cutting through the bullshit" is just reiterating what everyone has already accused Karnos of
His recent posts have no content

@D&D: why is PV obvscum?
The confscum was on the PV wagon as well. For quite some time. Is random scum because he lurks? I dont think that AI. Dont get me wrong, im not townreading him, but him being on the wagon isnt fishy at all. I find it way worse that people join the PV wagon without being given a case, and without giving reasons themselves. Thats opportunistic sheeping.

Because this is just like how he has played as scum before and people are giving literally every excuse possible to avoid voting him, while going to every single other counterwagon

a random lynch is OK, but definitely not what I'd prefer.

-dragons

I still believe that giving reasons not to vote is better than asking for votes without reasons.

I haven't played with him, and personally I kind of have issues with using activity as tells. True, they can be right, but the moment something irl happens it becomes unreliable. I could say yume was force-replaced out in hunger games mafia after 3 prods, and she was scum. But that itn't enough to base a case on imo
Meta can be used to support your case, not to be a case on itself [/rant]

Do you think everyone refusing to vote PV and trying to join the counterwagons is scum?



-S

[Albert B. Rampage]

No new posts in almost 24 hours lol

[MathBlade]

Yup. Prodding the dodge since will be at 24 hours for me at work.

Can we have prods on like the majority of the game please mod?