Open 654 | Surrealism - Game over

[Aubrey]

No. I'm interested. Just don't care.

Every player should care about their well being irregardless of alignment.

[Aubrey]

@meowmix: what has he done that prompted you to single him out?

[Gamma Emerald]

If there was a reason, I'd defend myself. But there isn't really a reason, so I just don't really care because there's probably not going to be any traction here.

[Creature]

Votecount 1.4

[0] BTD6_Maker
[0] Mimikyu
[0] Javajoe24
[0] MeowMix
[1] Aubrey - BlackStar
[1] Gamma Emerald - MeowMix
[2] Skold - Aristophanes, BTD6_Maker
[2] BlackStar - Zachstralkita, Ümläüt
[2] Zachstralkita - Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald
[1] Dunnstral - The_Jester
[2] The_Jester - Skold, Aubrey
[1] Ümläüt - Mimikyu
[0] Aristophanes

[0] Nolynch

Not voting: Javajoe24

There are 13 players alive, 7 votes is the majority.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-09-25 14:45:00)

[MeowMix]

@meowmix: what has he done that prompted you to single him out?

44,53+55,207

I don't like any of these posts so I am voting for him

[Zachstralkita]

happy birthday aubrey

[Gamma Emerald]

What don't you like about them? 53 and 55 were me trying to get everyone involved, so I don't see why those would be a problem.

[MeowMix]

people in the game were already involved

I found it needless and fluffy

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, what about 44 and 207?

[MeowMix]

44 was an you attempting to explain how another person plays for one reason or another. you did the same thing in 87 and umlaut rightfully called you out on it

207 was an attempt to stifle discussion

neither of these things seem protown to me

[Gamma Emerald]

44 was me proving Skold wasn't behaving strangely. In 87, I had my own thoughts and wanted to express them. 207 was me calling out Zach for derailing the discussion. I'm fine with discussion, but when it is only about one topic, we don't really get anywhere.

[Zachstralkita]

Multiple discussions can go on at once. If you truly felt we weren't doing anything productive, why did you not opt to start a new discussion you preferred more and thought would produce more information instead of pissing around, voting me and proceeding to do

nothing

after that?

[Gamma Emerald]

Multiple discussions can go on at once. If you truly felt we weren't doing anything productive, why did you not opt to start a new discussion you preferred more and thought would produce more information instead of pissing around, voting me and proceeding to do

nothing

after that?

I didn't really have anything else I could think of. But now, I have something.
What do you think of MeowMix's questions before his vote?

[Zachstralkita]

He was looking to analyze what you replied, I think. Reactions give a lot away.

Can't say I disagree with his summation. Just wondering, if I'm your scumread why is that question being posed to me rather than as a general question?

[Gamma Emerald]

It is a general question, I just included it in that post.

[Zachstralkita]

Okay, sorry.

[Aubrey]

happy birthday aubrey

Thanks.

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Seems like MeowMix's vote on Gamma is mostly based off of that survey thing. While I''m not a fan of it, I don't know how damning it really is. However, I do see their point regarding how it could be viewed as fluff in order for one to seem active without putting ones neck on the line. That being said, if Gamma was truly scum wanting to appear active then I don't know why they wouldn't just tag along the Blackstar assault since it seems like a somewhat easy campaign to latch onto after multiple people were on it. Parrot a little here and a little there and he would have been golden. I also don't know what a mafia would gain by going to Skold's defense earlier in the game unless they were scum buddies. I remain null with Gamma with maybe a slight town lean for the Skold reasoning.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Zachstralkita

I've seen this guy as town quite a bit and let me tell you... he's not town this game

40% chance of being right

I'd like to hear a more in depth analysis on this from you.

Pretty damn confirmed. Found a scumteam guys.

Lets hear it then.

Where is Javajoe26 and BTD6_Maker? One could almost forget they are part of this game.

In depth analysis isn't exactly my forte

I think he's playing like he does as scum in this game

What was addressed was that BlackStar strawmanned and deflected what Umlaut conveyed better in #176 than apparently I have in all my posts. I'm quite sure we all know how " strong " his scumread is. No one is feigning ignorance of anything at this point.

Keep using random buzzwords, pal

Incidentally, all of MeowMix's, BTD6's and Java's inactivity appear to be sitewide (their most recent posts are in this thread), so I don't think too much should be read into it.

Dunnstral, on the other hand, is being uncharacteristically quiet. He had 199 posts in day 1 of the first game I played with him and I believe he has a reputation for spamming the shit out of his games in general. Not sure whether this holds in his scum games as well since I have no meta there, but maybe someone else does?

I don't post less as scum
You called me out in tic tac toe mafia too for "being too analytical"

Spoiler: Here are games where I was scum

.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=67083
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66931
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=66795

If you're still wondering, take a look at my post counts across those games

[Dunnstral]

Okay, enough. This has gone on for FAR too long. I don't really find BlackStar's actions that suspicious, but I definitely find Zachstralkita to be. He keeps trying to derail the discussion onto BlackStar. I don't see any reason town would try to do this.
VOTE: Zach

This is a weird and dramatic post

That's not how anything works, and you don't decide when something starts or stops.

VOTE: Zachstralkita

Just to reiterate: I think Zach is a member of an anti-town faction that opposes the town

[Dunnstral]

I know I'm one to talk but wow you guys have effectively done nothing

[BlackStar]

That's what happens when people are interested in arguing about nothing

[The_Jester]

Zach looks town to me and his argument with BlackStar looks TvT after rereading.

Not a huge fan of Gamma and Dunnstral.

Liking Mimikyu and MeowMix.

I don't see the motivation behind Dunnstral's vote on Zach (besides his early meta read which isn't worth much imo).
Like, the only thing I agree with him on is his comment about Gamma's vote but he's not the first person to point it out.

Dunn hasn't adressed any specific parts of Zach's ISO and doesn't seem to have read the game much:

What was addressed was that BlackStar strawmanned and deflected what Umlaut conveyed better in #176 than apparently I have in all my posts. I'm quite sure we all know how " strong " his scumread is. No one is feigning ignorance of anything at this point.

Keep using random buzzwords, pal

These "random buzzwords" was Zach paraphasing Umlaut's #176, which is even written in the quote you've provided. I don't get what you were trying to do here, make Zach look incompetent?

VOTE: Dunnstral

[Mimikyu]

I know I'm one to talk but wow you guys have effectively done nothing

It seems you have picked up on this, but yes you don't have much of a right to say that. You had an opportunity to do something when you came in and instead sheeped Gamma.

Still dislike Umlaut; he's scum. Don't like Aubrey, but coming around to him as potentially town that just annoys me. On board with others on Zach being possible scum. He can have time to shape up though. Don't care for MeowMix's re-entrance. Comes in like he's doing something, but just starts a new wagon on someone with no real suspicion. Makes no effort to comment on anything else that has happened.

[BlackStar]

Yeah, I can see Umlaut being scum.

VOTE: umlaut

[Zachstralkita]

I know I'm one to talk but wow you guys have effectively done nothing

It seems you have picked up on this, but yes you don't have much of a right to say that. You had an opportunity to do something when you came in and instead sheeped Gamma.

Still dislike Umlaut; he's scum. Don't like Aubrey, but coming around to him as potentially town that just annoys me. On board with others on Zach being possible scum. He can have time to shape up though. Don't care for MeowMix's re-entrance. Comes in like he's doing something, but just starts a new wagon on someone with no real suspicion. Makes no effort to comment on anything else that has happened.

What is the basis for your read on me. You're not accomplishing anything except being vague. And doubtcasting meowmix, and taking no real stance on mostly everything else save for Umlaut.