Shadowrun Mafia - Game Over

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:12 am

I really have no interest in adventure political arguments which has happened in all large varson games I was in them so far.

I prefer to do scum hunting.

@ABR I don't really have that much read on him. why is he a scum read of yours can you help me out with that read?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:13 am

In post 1750, Frozen Angel wrote:@ABR I don't really have that much read on him. why is he a scum read of yours can you help me out with that read?

You need to do a quick iso of PV and then tell me if you think he's town or scum.

SooperDetective · Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:16 am

Okay.
I'll wholeheartedly agree with a PV lynch.

If you give me 3 DECENT reasons on why he's so scum.
Tell me WHY my reads are wrong.

Until anyone does that, I will assume I am right and you have no idea about what you are doing or why you are doing it.

PEDIT I SWEAR IF YOU NOW SHIT OUT A CASE BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE ASKED ILL WOTD YOU OUT OF ALL MY GAMES

Im goddamn tired of this bullshit.
Nobody explains
Nobody even tries at being transparant.
FA comes on the mission

@mod: i need a break. Ill be back in 2 days. Froot is vla as well

House · Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:17 am

In post 1729, SooperDetective wrote:Jaereed/abr/me on arson
Mathblade/D&D/PV on demolitions

By popular demand, ill change mathblade with someone else.
PV will become party leader.

I don't think you can after hammer.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:18 am

It doesn't matter if I explain because I will be accused of confirmation bias, I've been trying to lynch the dude all day long. FA brings a fresh perspective on the game, if you trust her then listen to her if she says to bring me over PV in the mission.

It doesn't make sense to bring PV and not me on game related reasons. Don't make this personal because you're angry. Don't fuck this up for us because we disagree on who's scum.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:19 am

PeregrineV (Elementalist) : a member of Astral , poked SC multiple times , requested to be on party (?) , attacked MC for random vote on yume , Voted vedith hmm , he wants a karnoos lynch , arguning with ABR

ehhh

null ?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:20 am

That's not good enough, you need to determine whether to bring him or me on the run and help sooperdetective make a decision.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:21 am

Mod: Please edit OP with replacements names...vedith, yume, sooperdetective, etc.

House · Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:21 am

In post 1732, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1725, House wrote:I'm not engaging you in an argument over shit that is irrelevant to the fact that I caught Math!scum dead cold.
You didn't catch me dead cold as I am NOT scum.

Yes I made a mistake. If your entire argument is I wasn't perfect then that is a horrible argument.
When I am town I am never perfect I make mistakes. Evidently I made one here I just didn't see it. There is no ulterior motive.

Furthermore even if I did lie (which I didn't) then I gain nothing as my point was not to trust Karnos's claim.

No. I'm not letting you of the hook over that weak response.

You had several opportunities to say, "damn, House is certain... Wtf am I missing here? and read the damned post closer. You didn't do that, not even once.

I saw in thirty seconds what you blatantly misrepresented... For how long?

You. Are. Scum.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:22 am

I think this is twon ABR

scum ABR is more bussy and dodgy I suppose. but thats BS meta

and there is a semi inno on him (drixx letter) atm which I'm waiting for KC's answers about how exactly it was.

so overall I can't see why PV is scum and I see ABR as town atm

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:23 am

why you left astral ABR ? have you claimed the leaving in the main thread right then?

House · Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:24 am

In post 1732, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1725, House wrote:I'm not engaging you in an argument over shit that is irrelevant to the fact that I caught Math!scum dead cold.
You didn't catch me dead cold as I am NOT scum.

Yes I made a mistake. If your entire argument is I wasn't perfect then that is a horrible argument.
When I am town I am never perfect I make mistakes. Evidently I made one here I just didn't see it. There is no ulterior motive.

Furthermore even if I did lie (which I didn't) then I gain nothing as my point was not to trust Karnos's claim.

In post 1713, House wrote:
In post 1383, karnos wrote:I used my
1 shot matrix vig
on night one to kill the most likely scum IMO.
Math lied. She was trying to obfuscate karnos' claim for reasons i can't begin to understand...
But town Math is far more observant of details and would not have "oopsed" this after being called out on it.

Call me Nostradamas

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:24 am

In post 1760, Frozen Angel wrote:why you left astral ABR ? have you claimed the leaving in the main thread right then?

I don't want to be in same PT as PV.

Tell sooper to bring me instead of PV who everyone agrees is scum. He doesn't even have enough posts to be townread, and he won't be making any content posts, so why the fuck keep him around or involve him in highly sensitive missions?

SooperDetective · Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:26 am

Its not about disagreeing.
IT NEVER WAS.
Its about you refusing to explain.
It's about you always attacking my townreads without reasoning and treating me as incompetent.
Replacements come in and you immediately manipulate them into agreeing with you and guess what?
YOU STILL HAVE NO CASE.

I'm sorry but what we are playing is no longer mafia. It's screaming for lynches and hiding what you are supposed to be sharing.

House · Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:27 am

In post 1751, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1750, Frozen Angel wrote:@ABR I don't really have that much read on him. why is he a scum read of yours can you help me out with that read?
You need to do a quick iso of PV and then tell me if you think he's town or scum.

There are reasons to be scummy that don't actually have scum notice behind them.

Have you ruled those possibilities out?

House · Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:28 am

In post 1764, House wrote:
In post 1751, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1750, Frozen Angel wrote:@ABR I don't really have that much read on him. why is he a scum read of yours can you help me out with that read?
You need to do a quick iso of PV and then tell me if you think he's town or scum.
There are reasons to be scummy that don't actually have scum motive behind them.

Have you ruled those possibilities out?

EBWOP

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:28 am

In post 1763, SooperDetective wrote:It's about you always attacking my townreads without reasoning and treating me as incompetent.

I never treated you as incompetent. Don't take it personally because I think you're wrong. D&D is also your townread, BOTH players agree with me on PV, listen to them. Listen to FA telling you I'm town. We are not sabotaging you, you are putting blinders on and ignoring us. I've seen many times PV play a scum game like this, I recognize his scum play, I know that he's been pushing this BS "ABR knew about the Drixx 1-shot matrix shot so he left the astral PT" that makes no sense at all from town. He's scum and I know it.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:28 am

I do agree that there is no solid reason for counting PV a great townread to take him on adventures over ABR who there is a semi weak inno on him atm

anyway why you told you left because you were afraid of an astral vig? did you know about the drixx being a part of matrix when you left astral or not?

House · Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:29 am

In post 1763, SooperDetective wrote:Its not about disagreeing.
IT NEVER WAS.
Its about you refusing to explain.
It's about you always attacking my townreads without reasoning and treating me as incompetent.
Replacements come in and you immediately manipulate them into agreeing with you and guess what?
YOU STILL HAVE NO CASE.

I'm sorry but what we are playing is no longer mafia. It's screaming for lynches and hiding what you are supposed to be sharing.

Don't even try to give ABR credit for my MathBlade read.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:30 am

In post 1764, House wrote:There are reasons to be scummy that don't actually have scum notice behind them.

Have you ruled those possibilities out?

I am strongly convinced that PV is scum and should not be taken on the run.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:31 am

In post 1763, SooperDetective wrote:Its not about disagreeing.
IT NEVER WAS.
Its about you refusing to explain.
It's about you always attacking my townreads without reasoning and treating me as incompetent.
Replacements come in and you immediately manipulate them into agreeing with you and guess what?
YOU STILL HAVE NO CASE.

I'm sorry but what we are playing is no longer mafia. It's screaming for lynches and hiding what you are supposed to be sharing.

this gae is not ever about explaining things. some people can't explain the way they read others and they have the most accurate reads. you can use the explanations if there are any to shape your own reads but you need to develop your own's anyway.

what do you think about ABR himself? Why PV is a strong townread of yours ? what do you think about the whole he sent a message to drixx thingi?

SooperDetective · Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:33 am

In post 1768, House wrote:
In post 1763, SooperDetective wrote:Its not about disagreeing.
IT NEVER WAS.
Its about you refusing to explain.
It's about you always attacking my townreads without reasoning and treating me as incompetent.
Replacements come in and you immediately manipulate them into agreeing with you and guess what?
YOU STILL HAVE NO CASE.

I'm sorry but what we are playing is no longer mafia. It's screaming for lynches and hiding what you are supposed to be sharing.
Don't even try to give ABR credit for my MathBlade read.

Im worry but if creeit is all you care about please get out.

House · Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:34 am

In post 1771, SooperDetective wrote:
In post 1768, House wrote:
In post 1763, SooperDetective wrote:Its not about disagreeing.
IT NEVER WAS.
Its about you refusing to explain.
It's about you always attacking my townreads without reasoning and treating me as incompetent.
Replacements come in and you immediately manipulate them into agreeing with you and guess what?
YOU STILL HAVE NO CASE.

I'm sorry but what we are playing is no longer mafia. It's screaming for lynches and hiding what you are supposed to be sharing.
Don't even try to give ABR credit for my MathBlade read.
Im worry but if creeit is all you care about please get out.

What I call credit, you call blame and that's all YOU care about so follow your own advice

SooperDetective · Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:35 am

I'm sorry, I'm tired and stressed. I dislike a lot about what is going on and I feel like I'm yelling at walls.
I'll leave for a day or two, as thats better for me and all of you.
Ill swap out PV, if its still possible.

-S

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:35 am

In post 1773, SooperDetective wrote:I'm sorry, I'm tired and stressed. I dislike a lot about what is going on and I feel like I'm yelling at walls.
I'll leave for a day or two, as thats better for me and all of you.
Ill swap out PV, if its still possible.

-S

Thank you

We will catch the scum no doubt about it.