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Post Post #1661 (isolation #0) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:13 am

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Because I'm town.
And because of my sweet top hat.
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Post Post #1663 (isolation #1) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:20 am

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I'll read and catch up after work.
(No, I do not have anything else going on a Friday night.) ;_;
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Post Post #1668 (isolation #2) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:16 am

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I think it's far and away more likely to be 1.
I got to the end of Day 1 and my pick is Marquis' slot.
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Post Post #1669 (isolation #3) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:53 am

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I'm to the end of Day 2 and I still think it's kraska/Marquis.
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Post Post #1670 (isolation #4) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:08 am

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I have to run a couple errands right now but I'll be right back.
On the issue of 1 vs 2 scum, it's obviously 1. FakeGod has a precedence of using 3 man scumteams in smaller Large Themes and I definitely don't think he would've set up this potential for extra town deaths
while
boosting scum's numbers.
On reads, I have townreads of varying strengths on everyone except Marquis/Wingback/kraska.
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Post Post #1672 (isolation #5) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:14 pm

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Alright-y, I finished catching up on most of what's happened in the game so far.
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VOTE: kraska
TBH, I'd be stunned if anyone else were scum.
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Post Post #1674 (isolation #6) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:31 pm

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Post Post #1681 (isolation #7) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:41 pm

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Maestro
is nearly an open-and-shut case. There's already his protown voting record. The double vote also makes him extremely likely town. A scum double voter would have nasty interactions with the mafia bookie. If you're already going to reward scum for being able to predict the lynch, it just seems unfair to give them that much more influence in the lynch that grows as the game goes on, town numbers dwindle, and the lynch threshold decays. It's an interaction I would have to think FakeGod would avoid.

Untrod Tripod
has a protown voting record and if he bussed Froot Loop, he did a hell of a job. In particular, I have a hard time believing he would bus Froot Loop out of nowhere on Day 3 when it looked like smooth sailing to an Ankamius lynch. The responses of Froot Loop to UT's prodding don't look like scum-scum interactions either. For example
In post 194, Froot Loop wrote:
In post 187, Untrod Tripod wrote: Froot Loop's post that I quoted looked extremely awkward to me and extremely scummy because it looks like he's just trying to appear active and asking "probing" questions without actually contributing anything to the game. It looked hella scummy to me. So I voted him.
I'm a she.

There's not much I can do if that's your response to my tone. I asked Hark about the votes because I would normally think that moving your vote off someone implies that your read of them had changed but I asked for clarification because Hark said his RVS style is to prod different people. I've said more about Cakez and CKD.

I feel like this is a playstyle thing as well. You said I haven't contributed to the game but I've commented on and questioned things which I think have been relevant. If something's not clear about what I've said, or
you
think I should be saying it in a different way, that's not AI.

@CKD - I've looked at the post now. I'm not really sure what you're getting at. You voted for him for saying that he's townreading people?
This feels like a genuine parrying attempt, as opposed to the typical scum response which is either to make a snippy, OMGUS-y jab or to lie back and think of
England
the scumteam.

As someone else pointed out earlier in a VCA,
Ankamius
was a scum-heavy wagon. There's that. There's his protown voting record, and neither time looked like a bus to me. Also, I just never mentally got on the "Ankamius is scum" train that a lot of people seemed to be on. I've seen him as scum before in StrangerCoug's large theme game a while back and there it wasn't that difficult to see he was bullshitting his reads. I'm not getting that this time.

I hope ira doesn't take this the wrong way, but
iraonavp
is a read that uses a good dose of "too bad to be scum." What self-respecting scum would think "I think it'll be a
swell
idea to claim to bodyguard someone under threat of a vig kill!"? (By the way, his story is backed up by Post 825 where he specifically instruct Seraphim to kill kraska.)
In post 825, iraonavp wrote:
In post 823, kraska77 wrote:
In post 822, iraonavp wrote:Okay, but is that what you think,not just something you can think? Are you bodyguard?

Seraphim might kill you, you know...

Still, how DGB claimed is not scum-aligned because there is not much time left in the day.
I can chat with seraphim about that in the pt at night

so? There were only 2 votes on her
Okay, make sure to shoot kraska, Seraphim...
There was also that 1v1 argument with MuffinMan and how Froot Loop and Katsuki behaved in response. Two townies immediately wrote the initial interaction off as town v town, CKD and SirCakez in and . But Froot Loop and Katsuki immediately jumped to call ira scum shortly thereafter. That makes me think the argument really was town v town, they would've been given plausible deniability and an opportunity to put ira in a good place but they trashed it.

PeregrineV (Harkonnen97)
is the slot I think I'm probably going furthest out on a limb for, but I still think it's probably town. Hark initially struck me as a gut town read and that was mildly reinforced by his replace out after Muffin called him bad. I also think Froot Loop's push on him was opportunistic and aiming for a mislynch:
In post 298, Froot Loop wrote:VOTE: PeregrineV

The series of posts about CKD doesn't sit well with me. I think there's conflicting motivations between the original response and the vote.

I don't know why Seraphim reacted like that to Vedith's claim. I can't see a reason to think particularly one way or the other about it.
That she walked back later, which is generally not something you do when you're bussing:
In post 459, Froot Loop wrote:About Peregrine, I was talking about 282, 283 and 284. I read it as PV stating CKD's role and then voting for Cakez for doing that. But I misunderstood. I also didn't connect then that PV replaced Hark, who I thought was town. So I'm town-reading that slot at the moment.
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Post Post #1682 (isolation #8) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:48 pm

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Meanwhile, there's nothing from kraska or any previous occupants of the slot that makes me think it's town. Interactions with Katsuki/Froot Loop are nearly nonexistent. kraska only mentioned Katsuki
after
he was hammered. Marquis and Wingback's posting and pushes were pretty weak. I could easily see Marquis setting up a pick-and-roll on UT during his initial Froot Loop push coming out of the RVS. Both of Wingback's pushes were on town.

Nothing really looks good for this slot.
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Post Post #1683 (isolation #9) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:15 pm

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Maestro
to clarify you can't investigate and kill on the same night, correct?
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Post Post #1685 (isolation #10) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:21 pm

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Post Post #1686 (isolation #11) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:23 pm

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We stand on the precipice of victory.
Who will have the courage to make the final hammer of justice?
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #12) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:39 pm

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Thanks guys. That was fun while it lasted. ^_^

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