Mini Normal 1827 - No Flavor Mafia (Game Over)

[Blitzkrieg]

Really?

Zero comments about how Creature knew Expedience was subbing in before the mod announced it. Y'all suck.

I already commented on that. Don't know how you could've missed that

You mentioned a slip but not what it was. Glad to see we're at least in agreement as to why.

[BlackStar]

Hi Expedience

Hey Rach, Expedience is the new Skelda

This is a scum slip, right?

VOTE: expedience

No, I read the OP

Why were you on the first page?

To make this list:

Gonna do this again:

1. Transcend

2. RachMarie

3. Killthestory

4. BlackStar
5. Creature

6. Expedience
7. Vedith
8. Blitzkrieg

9. Io
10. Naomi-Tan

Okay...

[Blitzkrieg]

That still leaves the issue of "mafia vig" though as not even I think a mafia vig can exist.

Five bucks Creature says his vig is one shot.

[Creature]

Hey Blitz, do you think two vigs + bulletproof are all town?

[Blitzkrieg]

Hey Blitz, do you think two vigs + bulletproof are all town?

I have you as scum, so no.

[Creature]

Say I am confirmed town, are they still all town?

[Transcend]

inb4 "no because if you're town then blackstar is scum"

[Io]

Creature's alibi matches up.
Dunn edited the OP at 3:02 and he made that post at 3:12.

[Killthestory]

lol naomi and expedience have changed their read on me so many times

tho im not sure what creature and io are doing. im an obvious pr whos obvious town, like holy fuck. how many wagons are you gonna let scum drive, town?

[BlackStar]

Creature's alibi matches up.
Dunn edited the OP at 3:02 and he made that post at 3:12.

Doesn't mean he was telling the truth about looking at it.

[BlackStar]

lol naomi and expedience have changed their read on me so many times

tho im not sure what creature and io are doing. im an obvious pr whos obvious town, like holy fuck. how many wagons are you gonna let scum drive, town?

Join the expedience wagon

[Killthestory]

VOTE: expedience

[Naomi-Tan]

That still leaves the issue of "mafia vig" though as not even I think a mafia vig can exist.

Five bucks Creature says his vig is one shot.

Mafia vig? you mean the night kill?

[Transcend]

I hate to admit it but Titus is voting better than most of you right now and she's probably bussing.

Let me remind you that this is the same person that tunneled the dayvig that shot mafia on d1.

[Transcend]

Naomi's waffled all game and I heavily believe she's indecisive town. Like not all town are going to be consistent.

[Io]

For creature to be scum he would have to A have lied and never vigged anyone and just did the mafia factional kill of which his claim being a 1-shot Vig or JOAT, B have been a Serial Killer claiming NK Immune Miller Vig, or C have been a mafia JOAT and just took an easy to brush off pot shoot at a townie who pushed a mislynch all of day 1.

There is really just no way to tell Creature's alignment from the claim alone because all of those make as much sense as a town JOAT or 1-shot Vig.

Light also was hard, like hard, trying to kill Creature day 1. If creature was a mafia JOAT that would be so incredibly risky from for a Goon to do.
Of course Creature himself was the person to suggest that Light was bussing someone and claimed it to be Verdith and not him, but I still don't think Light would have been bussing Creature if he was a JOAT.
Scenario A however may make some sense from a mafia bus standpoint, but dunno. Not really anything strong to go off on Light's reads that points to Creature being scum.

The knowing Skelda's replacement is also pretty iffy to call a scumslip as his alibi fits perfect and doesn't really have a flaw and is only suspicious because there is a mafia daychat.
It just seams a bit stretchy to me. Not really solid of an accusation.

Of course there is 0 way to differentiate between a vig and SK other than Cop. At that point it is just a pure paranoia accusation of a player and would just come down to night action analysis which would be late game and shouldn't be worried about at this point in the game.

[BlackStar]

For creature to be scum he would have to A have lied and never vigged anyone and just did the mafia factional kill of which his claim being a 1-shot Vig or JOAT, B have been a Serial Killer claiming NK Immune Miller Vig, or C have been a mafia JOAT and just took an easy to brush off pot shoot at a townie who pushed a mislynch all of day 1.

There is really just no way to tell Creature's alignment from the claim alone because all of those make as much sense as a town JOAT or 1-shot Vig.

Light also was hard, like hard, trying to kill Creature day 1. If creature was a mafia JOAT that would be so incredibly risky from for a Goon to do.

Of course Creature himself was the person to suggest that Light was bussing someone and claimed it to be Verdith and not him, but I still don't think Light would have been bussing Creature if he was a JOAT.
Scenario A however may make some sense from a mafia bus standpoint, but dunno. Not really anything strong to go off on Light's reads that points to Creature being scum.

The knowing Skelda's replacement is also pretty iffy to call a scumslip as his alibi fits perfect and doesn't really have a flaw and is only suspicious because there is a mafia daychat.
It just seams a bit stretchy to me. Not really solid of an accusation.

Of course there is 0 way to differentiate between a vig and SK other than Cop. At that point it is just a pure paranoia accusation of a player and would just come down to night action analysis which would be late game and shouldn't be worried about at this point in the game.

That's the most common scum tactic ever though. You bus your partner on day one and either get them lynched and earn town cred or get in a big fight with them to distance the two of you before you eventually change your mind and decide not to get them lynched. I also don't know why you're considering the possibility of a mafia joat. If creature is Mafia then he almost definitely lied about being a joat.

[RachMarie]

that would be the case not a mafia JOAT though I have seen them.

However what reason would scum team with creature on it go for Massive over other more likely candidates? Massive was barely a presence and might have been replaced on D 1

[Creature]

I didn't claim JOAT.

[BlackStar]

What did you claim?

[Io]

I didn't claim JOAT.

Yeah but you claimed Vigilante or JOAT and not saying which it is.

[Creature]

Hopefully none of you are planning to lynch inside {BlackStar, Io, Naomi-Tan, RachMarie, me}

[BlackStar]

Hopefully none of you are planning to lynch inside {BlackStar, Io, Naomi-Tan, RachMarie, me}

We're lynching you right after we lynch your partner

[BlackStar]

Don't ignore this

What did you claim?

[Creature]

I only claimed I vigged massive, I don't need to fullclaim yet.