Open 654 | Surrealism - Game over

[Gamma Emerald]

BTD, do you have anything else to say about your scumreads? I want you to actually say why, not just say "same as x".

[Something_Smart]

Gamma you're doing that thing again

[Gamma Emerald]

What thing?

[Something_Smart]

The thing where you say a thing that several other people have just said.

[BlackStar]

The thing where you say a thing that several other people have just said.

Yup

[Gamma Emerald]

I am actually asking for something, though. You guys were just bickering about whether it was okay to pressure him.

[BlackStar]

I asked for that 3 times already. He already replied. You're just posting for the sake of posting so that it looks like you're doing something.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well can you quote it then?

[Aubrey]

??? Gamma its like the page before this one.

[BlackStar]

My other scumreads are Blackstar and Skold, but they are weaker. I will explain my three scumreads in more detail.

Still waiting for this

I have already explained my reasons for Skold. For Blackstar, my reasons were mostly the same as Zachstralkita's.

This is your idea of going into more detail?

the myriad of reasons to vote gamma have been hashed out in the thread. it would have been simple to just say "I'm sheeping meowmix/aubrey/zach/whoever" and throwing a vote down. trying to find something scummy in gamma's recent posts seems like a way to appear contributing while actually not really doing so

re: the second point it was but trying to justify his lurking bothers me a bit

This is why. Any more detail is probably not necessary.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay saw it. I don't really know what to think. I wish he linked Zach's reason, though.
PEdit: That last post is about me, but he didn't say he scumreads me. What?

[BlackStar]

He saying that scrambling to find extra reasons to vote people and justify it after people have already given a lot of reasons is just a way of looking like you're contributing when you're really just reaching.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who is he accusing of doing that though?

[BlackStar]

He using that to justify why he didn't give his own reasons...

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay. I personally prefer a summary of why you vote someone, even if you are basically sheeping someone, that way your perspective is visible.

[Aubrey]

I don't really know what to think.

Out of curiosity, since I really don't know any of your reads, if you could lynch anybody right now (other than BTD) who would you pick Gamma and why? On the flip side, who would you give the towniest towns award to and why? aka. Strongest town read and scum read with reasons. GO!

I'd like to see more initiative out of you instead of just tagging along other people's work a bit.

pre-edit. Don't you normally keep the reasons why you vote someone silent though Gamma when you sheep?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, I'll get those reads later, but I'd like to address my thoughts on MeowMix.
After re-ISOing him, I noticed he expressed suspicion of my RQS. This makes me less distrustful of his "what would you say if I voted you" post.
UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

I only reread a few ISOs, but from what I gathered, I must say that Umlaut is my strongest scumread, while Zach or Something is my strongest townread.
VOTE: Umlaut
Also, I realize I unvoted Dunn, not MeowMix, but I still scumread Umlaut more.

[Aubrey]

you failed on the why portion to my question, and did you not just complain about BTD not giving reasons for why he thought his people were scum? Yet there you go and vote without giving reasons.

[Gamma Emerald]

Woops. I'm scumreading Umlaut because he seems rather abrasize, and I noticed he criticized BlackStar's scumread level of Aubrey, even though Umlaut asked for it.
As for my townreads, Zach is mostly gut, while Something is because he is criticizing my play without resorting to voting. I don't know why, but that feels towny to me.

[Aubrey]

???? Whats wrong with criticizing an answer to a question you asked if you don't like/understand said answer? Furthermore, abrasive is alignment indicative? A lot of players here have that, but your choosing him out of everyone? This doesn't seem like strong reasoning.

[Aubrey]

I'd also like to know why you think Umlaut is more likely to be scum than Dunn since you were originally voting for him in post 488 & 490. For a moment I forgot you were even voting Dunn until I went rereading on what all has occurred recently.

[Mimikyu]

Work is busy, so not much time to look over things. Looked quick at the recent stuff and I'll just say I don't have BTD's stuff as much as others seem to.

[Aubrey]

I'd also like to know why you think Umlaut is more likely to be scum than Dunn since you were originally voting for him in post 488 & 490. For a moment I forgot you were even voting Dunn until I went rereading on what all has occurred recently.

Forget post 490, I meant post 496 in the quote above.

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Personally I think your reasoning for Dunn is twice as strong as your reasoning for Umlaut. This is an original view that hasn't been mentioned by others so far, and I think it could hold some truth to it now that I'm examining the posts more in depth. It is odd that Dunn immediately thought that scum would bus instead of also considering the possibility that scum could be hunting scum in the discussions provided between posts 471 - 474. As you said, thinking in one direction. They only need to focus on finding one scum team/power roles, and any non-scum casualties during the process causes no harm to their faction. (unless of course one of them die). Afterwards they can focus on eliminating the reaming survivors of the town.

By no means is this reasoning a smoking gun, but it even furthers my considerations of him being potentially scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm, that's right, scum WOULD be concerned with eliminating members of the opposite faction first, I know this because my first game was as scum in multiball. I saw the thought process firsthand.