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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:03 am

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In post 322, Wraith wrote:
Let's not make the same mistake with the Seahawks you literally just commented on with the Cardinals. Their defence is still legit - they've conceded 19 points in two games - and have has Rawls and Wilson hobbled by injuries the last couple of weeks. Don't get me wrong, there are reasons to be concerned about the Seahawks, but "serious trouble" is going too far. Against the Rams, you could see how much Wilson's ankle was hurting them, there were several sacks or near sacks that a healthy Wilson could have avoided and bought time to make a play with his mobility.
The thing is with the Cards, while there were some concerns about Palmer and their defense, they still performed
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against a strong contender and lost the game off a bad snap. The Seahawks have now had two terrible performances in a row against weak opponents. My concerns are less about the defense and much more about their O-Line, which as expected has opened the season disastrously. They still have to play the Cards twice, the Jets, the Pats, the Pack, and the Panthers. Even some of their mid-level match-ups - such as against the Bucs, Falcons, even the Eagles - look like tough games for that offense.
Germain Ifedi's been out hurt - getting him back should help with the O-Line issues. They're also impacted by Wilson's injury - the O-Line is built to protect a mobile quarterback, which means they have more athletic and mobile guys who tend to sacrifice pure strength in order to maintain blocks while Wilson is moving around. If they're forced to stand still and protect a stationary QB (as Wilson was against the Rams), then they're out of their element.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:15 am

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I panic about the Patriots QB situation, but thank God the Browns exist to put such thoughts in perspective - assuming Cody Kessler starts with McCown injured, they'll be starting their 26th QB since returning in 1999. When Brissett starts Thursday, he'll become the 5th Patriots starter in the same timeframe. The Browns are truly the heroes the rest of the NFL needs, but the city of Cleveland does not deserve.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:26 am

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Perhaps the Browns should fire their entire starting lineup, and replace them with the staff of the nearest Walmart. It'll save them tons of cash, and probably won't have any meaningful impact on their WL record or playoff chances.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:29 am

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I feel like shit, but I think Cody Kessler is probably gonna be pretty decent.

I never say this about USC QBs.

GB cutting Sitton was stupid.

Edelmann would be an amazing QB for the PATS.

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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:36 am

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Edelman is one of 6 players to achieve a perfect 158.3 postseason passer rating.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:22 am

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Starting Brisett is absolutely the right move. A. He knows the playbook, and actually practices with the team. B. You would have to cut someone to sign a new QB who most certainly won't be ready by week 3 (considering you play on Thursday night and you aren't putting Jimmy on IR), so why sign a qb just to play against Buffalo? C. You have Tom Brady coming back in week 5!!!! At worst you are 2-2, good job you are still going to win the division.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:58 pm

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Starting Brissett is most likely the right move sure... not signing someone else, though? Signing someone now at least gets them time to learn the playbook for the Bills game if Brissett shows he's not ready against the Texans or gets hurt. Edelman may have a perfect passer rating in the post season, but one pass on a trick play doesn't mean he's ready to play QB in the NFL. He was a mediocre QB at Kent State, primarily a runner rather than a passer, and the last time he was a QB was what... eight years ago? I think not signing a QB for these two games is a mistake.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:05 pm

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- Praise be to Clipboard Jesus - perhaps the most Brownsian player in the NFL is a Brown. I wonder what odds I can get on him starting in Week 4?

- Vikings G Alex Boone on the new stadium's crowd noise: “There’s a lot of times where we can’t hear the center. We could barely hear the snap count today a couple times — a couple false starts, because guys wouldn’t know when the snap was going. I’m not saying it’s the fans’ fault, but I’m just saying, it would be nice if they would shut the fuck up a little bit.”

- The Bears are fucking terrible. #asexpected
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:12 pm

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In post 326, Bella wrote:I panic about the Patriots QB situation, but thank God the Browns exist to put such thoughts in perspective - assuming Cody Kessler starts with McCown injured, they'll be starting their 26th QB since returning in 1999. When Brissett starts Thursday, he'll become the 5th Patriots starter in the same timeframe. The Browns are truly the heroes the rest of the NFL needs, but the city of Cleveland does not deserve.
Additional points: It's the first time post-merger when a team not playing replacement players during a strike started five different QBs in five games. (Manziel, Davis, Griffin, McCown, Kessler). The Packers have had five starting QBs since week 4 of 1992. The Browns have had 32, and didn't even exist for three years of that time. Fun fact: Seneca Wallace is on both those lists.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:41 pm

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Kessler is exciting!
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:01 pm

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I only saw the first half last night, but damn Wentz is the real deal.

The Steelers-Eagles game next week is going to be a tough one.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:07 pm

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Wentz is also exciting!
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:54 am

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In post 333, Bella wrote:
In post 326, Bella wrote:I panic about the Patriots QB situation, but thank God the Browns exist to put such thoughts in perspective - assuming Cody Kessler starts with McCown injured, they'll be starting their 26th QB since returning in 1999. When Brissett starts Thursday, he'll become the 5th Patriots starter in the same timeframe. The Browns are truly the heroes the rest of the NFL needs, but the city of Cleveland does not deserve.
Additional points: It's the first time post-merger when a team not playing replacement players during a strike started five different QBs in five games. (Manziel, Davis, Griffin, McCown, Kessler). The Packers have had five starting QBs since week 4 of 1992. The Browns have had 32, and didn't even exist for three years of that time. Fun fact: Seneca Wallace is on both those lists.
at least we drafted kessler at 93 and not 22

who actually thought manziel was actually a good idea. everyone avoided him like the plague

at least we have 8 picks in the first 4 rounds next year
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:34 am

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In post 337, inte wrote:
In post 333, Bella wrote:
In post 326, Bella wrote:I panic about the Patriots QB situation, but thank God the Browns exist to put such thoughts in perspective - assuming Cody Kessler starts with McCown injured, they'll be starting their 26th QB since returning in 1999. When Brissett starts Thursday, he'll become the 5th Patriots starter in the same timeframe. The Browns are truly the heroes the rest of the NFL needs, but the city of Cleveland does not deserve.
Additional points: It's the first time post-merger when a team not playing replacement players during a strike started five different QBs in five games. (Manziel, Davis, Griffin, McCown, Kessler). The Packers have had five starting QBs since week 4 of 1992. The Browns have had 32, and didn't even exist for three years of that time. Fun fact: Seneca Wallace is on both those lists.
at least we drafted kessler at 93 and not 22

who actually thought manziel was actually a good idea. everyone avoided him like the plague

at least we have 8 picks in the first 4 rounds next year
There's been a hilarious rumor since that draft day that Haslam was convinced to draft Johnny Football because a homeless dude he talked to on the street thought it was a good idea. EDIT: Not a rumor rofl
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:43 am

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Cutler could be out for the season. RIP Bears season. They've gotta be drafting a rookie QB in the first this year.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:15 am

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Are there any decent QBs that will be free agents at the end of the season?
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:38 am

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Ryan-best qb from 2013 draft class-Nassib is gonna be a free agent at the end of the year.

I've been waiting for this dude to get a shot somewhere for like 4 years now.

Holy shit it sucks being a backup to a Manning.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:44 am

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In post 335, Wraith wrote:I only saw the first half last night, but damn Wentz is the real deal.

The Steelers-Eagles game next week is going to be a tough one.
Don't crown him yet. Yeah, he's looked real good, but he's only played the Browns and the Bears, who're two of the worst teams in the NFL thus far.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:48 am

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In post 341, pickemgenius wrote:Ryan-best qb from 2013 draft class-Nassib is gonna be a free agent at the end of the year.

I've been waiting for this dude to get a shot somewhere for like 4 years now.

Holy shit it sucks being a backup to a Manning.
Hmm. He won't be handed a job though. He'll probably compete with 1-2 guys in the preseason
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:16 am

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ofc but he wouldnt be behind a fucking MANNING.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:17 am

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In post 342, Bella wrote:
In post 335, Wraith wrote:I only saw the first half last night, but damn Wentz is the real deal.

The Steelers-Eagles game next week is going to be a tough one.
Don't crown him yet. Yeah, he's looked real good, but he's only played the Browns and the Bears, who're two of the worst teams in the NFL thus far.
And he got hit quite a few times p hard.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:02 pm

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ya wentz needs to learn what RG3 couldnt.

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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:41 pm

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In post 344, pickemgenius wrote:ofc but he wouldnt be behind a fucking MANNING.
Yeah that has been brutal for him in terms of having any chance to show anything.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:52 pm

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In post 346, pickemgenius wrote:ya wentz needs to learn what RG3 couldnt.

GET OUT OF BOUNDS HOLY SHIT.
wentz could totally be the real deal if he doesn't get evaporated first.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:09 am

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Fun Fact about the Browns QB situation of the day: The active Browns QBs, Kessler and Whitehurst, have made fewer starts at QB between them (9, all Whitehurst) in the NFL than starting WR Terrelle Pryor (10).
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