STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[kraskaesque]

titus this is a 21 player game and that was day 1
that 3 wagons on town pop up in parallel isnt that far fetched

[MathBlade]

Titus they are my 1 in 100 my shining star. The brilliance through all the bullshit. My absolute through it all THEY are my OTP. The light of my life the truth of it all. The be all end all. The absolute the omega the beginning and the end. They are THEM.

You will understand after I flip green.
Then all will understand all will be seen.
I just hope it isn't to late
So they don't meet their fate.

For alas I think they have spilled too much.
And now your tunnelling may be the town's crutch.

I have said what I think I can safely in this post.
Now off I drive and to this thread I am a future ghost.

[kraskaesque]

and yes im pretty sure all three of rr, menno and chara are town

[MathBlade]

Find THEM.

[Titus]

@RR the pt v Steven is not a reason to clear sky but I think they are town.

Swap grapes for Farside and add almost 50 with Shiro and you're good. Read through almost50's ISO and it reads like 5 stages of grief regarding his hood.

McMenno is likely clear if you are based on vote analysis.

The third party thing is not something I am inclined to just trust you on. I mean conftown is saying no...and I have no independent evidence. I am not going to say I know no third parties, it just seems unlikely.

Conftown is wrong and is being misled.

-Cerb

Or if she's not being misled, she's so supremely arrogant that she refuses to display an appropriate level of doubt about her own beliefs.

I already expressed why I believe what I do about farside, and there's *no* reason in terms of interactions to call A50 and shiro town. Of course, I don't really "get" how to read A50. He's sort of like a less confusing LQ/TFL, if you know what I mean? He goes off on these crazy theories and such and I can't tell if it's town motivated or not.
Titus, you have *one* flip to go off of. That's not nearly enough data to clear McMenno off of based on votes alone.

-Cerb

It is.

You and NC were the wagon choices when McMenno sprung up for awhile. Let's take each assumption in turn.

NC town/RR town: no reason for scum to push a McMenno wagon. If you're both town, the McMenno wagon isn't scumlead.

NC scum/RR town: Scum would jump onto your wagon.

Nc town/RR scum: why wouldn't scum jump onto nc?

Nc scum/RR scum: why start a third wagon on a buddy?

The McMenno wagon is most likely a counter to save scum.

There's nothing stopping *town* from pushing the McMenno wagon though? In the case where NC and I are both town at least. I guess I'll have to look at the formation of that wagon again and see who was actually supportive of that push, I don't feel like it ever got much traction though.

-Cerb

pedit: Titus, what do you think is more likely? That Varsoon specifically wrote his win condition this time to account for the unlikely situation where every remaining living slot dies in a single phase, OR that there's an additional faction outside of the town that could finish killing all the scum even if the town is all dead?

The former. I have been watching the show and the universe falls under threat to things that would destroy the whole world. There already is a mass killing event shown.

Is it possible that town pushed McMenno? You bet. That's almost certainly a scum driven wagon though.

[kraskaesque]

Could all the vanity wagoners please express why their wagon is superior to the two which are currently under consideration?

-Cerb

iso me
i have explained why foxbird/shadow is scum many times but the votes arent piling on for some weird reason
that slot is obvious scum

[kraskaesque]

dgb could be scum *shrugs* idk, math is town
foxbird slot is obvious scum so that gets priority

[Yume]

Titus they are my 1 in 100 my shining star. The brilliance through all the bullshit. My absolute through it all THEY are my OTP. The light of my life the truth of it all. The be all end all. The absolute the omega the beginning and the end. They are THEM.

You will understand after I flip green.
Then all will understand all will be seen.
I just hope it isn't to late
So they don't meet their fate.

For alas I think they have spilled too much.
And now your tunnelling may be the town's crutch.

I have said what I think I can safely in this post.
Now off I drive and to this thread I am a future ghost.

Jaspis is the one and only OTP, no one else could be an OTP. >.<

[MathBlade]

I am not talking flavor Yume.

[Yume]

I don't care. My one and only OTP. Jaspis. <3

[Titus]

Yume, I long for Stevonion.

[Yume]

Yume, I long for Stevonion.

Spoiler:

I can make them fuse for you. Like I did this:

I have been waiting for an excuse to show that one off.

[Titus]

Spoiler: We good

we can discuss how to bring Stevonion into the world through our alliance hopefully.

Can you make sure Mastina answers about my drawing? Kinda important as both of us should not trigger given the penalties for excessive acting.

[Almost50]

A50/Xkfyu: Did you end up allying? How has that worked out for your reads on one another?

We did and I'm undecided on him still.

[McMenno]

sircakez was the primary driver behind my wagon

cooldog just kind of piled his vote on I guess

[TheWayItEnds]

My basement flooded yesterday and I'll get back to this when I can.

[Yume]

Spoiler: We good

we can discuss how to bring Stevonion into the world through our alliance hopefully.

Can you make sure Mastina answers about my drawing? Kinda important as both of us should not trigger given the penalties for excessive acting.

Drawing? That drawing?

[Almost50]

Almost, allying with someone you don't trust on the mechanics is helpful. Let them talk about their expertise, you might gain information that helps you sort them and understand what is going on better.

Mastina should stay quiet on who the bubbler is.

Not sure what you're saying here. I do trust both Shiro and RR, but Mastina doesn't.

And I do want to ally with someone I can tryst, bc .. you know.. somewhere within my moonlogic there are chunks of really good stuff to be found if you're good at analysis. I also want my ally to point me out to where I went wrong with good reason to set me on the right course.

Suffice it to say I will have loads to tell my ally, but it's likely that 75% of it is BS, and it's up to them to separate the gold from the filth. I also HAVE NOTHING TO FOREGO, which was my main point.

[Almost50]

Hey A50, wanna ally with me?

I'm already with Shiro. Sorry.

[Titus]

Spoiler: We good

we can discuss how to bring Stevonion into the world through our alliance hopefully.

Can you make sure Mastina answers about my drawing? Kinda important as both of us should not trigger given the penalties for excessive acting.

Drawing? That drawing?

Yes.

[Yume]

Okay.

[Almost50]

I believe Varsoon needs a page top.

I believe I want a VC.

-Cerb

I believe I can fly.

I believe I can touch the sky.

[farside22]

Would rather lynch inside {DrippingGoofball, Klingoncelt, MathBlade, Thefuzzylogic99, TheWayItEnds, Xkfyu}

Pretty sure kling, math, and fuzzy are town

Can someone please suggest someone who *isn't* the subject of all this fucking noise for me to look at? I was going to go look at NC, but fuck that, ISO is too huge and will remove all my motivation.

-Cerb

How about dgb?

@RR the pt v Steven is not a reason to clear sky but I think they are town.

Swap grapes for Farside and add almost 50 with Shiro and you're good. Read through almost50's ISO and it reads like 5 stages of grief regarding his hood.

McMenno is likely clear if you are based on vote analysis.

The third party thing is not something I am inclined to just trust you on. I mean conftown is saying no...and I have no independent evidence. I am not going to say I know no third parties, it just seems unlikely.

Conftown is wrong and is being misled.

-Cerb

Or if she's not being misled, she's so supremely arrogant that she refuses to display an appropriate level of doubt about her own beliefs.

I already expressed why I believe what I do about farside, and there's *no* reason in terms of interactions to call A50 and shiro town. Of course, I don't really "get" how to read A50. He's sort of like a less confusing LQ/TFL, if you know what I mean? He goes off on these crazy theories and such and I can't tell if it's town motivated or not.
Titus, you have *one* flip to go off of. That's not nearly enough data to clear McMenno off of based on votes alone.

-Cerb

A50 was very different in the PT.

[Almost50]

Hey Titus, what would you say if I told you that it's super likely that mastin is incredibly wrong about the lack of third parties in the game?

Like.

Super wrong.

Like.

I can point to one thing in this game that's public knowledge that is nearly proof that third parties must exist in this game.

-Cerb

You are peaking my curiosity there. I REALLY want to ally with YOU in particular. You're about the only one I will do tonight over Shiro.

[farside22]

I got rr unless they say differently.
Then I'll just go back to skybird if not.