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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:05 pm

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In post 273, Tenshii wrote:
In post 217, Infinity 324 wrote:I would've expected town!you to talk about how scum!tenshii makes gamma town
This is Wisdom not catching it because scum!Wisdom knows I'm town. And this is also Wisdom not considering the possibility of scum!Tenshii bussing scum!Gamma because scum!Wisdom wants his lover!Gamma to be townread.
You didn't see that Wisdom townreads me, apparently.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:36 pm

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That's not relevant.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:50 pm

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Tenshii wrote:
In post 251, Something_Smart wrote:I'd still like an answer btw.
In post 142, Wisdom wrote:
At your 65* and posts after. You were worrying about a push that didn't exist. Defensive: very anxious to challenge or avoid criticism.
What makes you think I was anxious?
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:53 pm

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Not liking Tenshii's ignorance of things plainly stated. Him saying I could be scum would be good for him, but the way Tenshii presented it makes me unable to give him Town points for it.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:40 pm

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In post 272, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 271, Infinity 324 wrote:Why are weak pushes and bad logic scummy -_-
because scum need to fabricate cases on townies without real reasons, so they have to use bad reasons.
You could make the same argument to say wisdom is scum, but that's not really a thing

Town uses bad logic a lot, and it's really not that hard for scum to fabricate reasons that look reasonable
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:43 pm

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In post 278, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not liking Tenshii's ignorance of things plainly stated. Him saying I could be scum would be good for him, but the way Tenshii presented it makes me unable to give him Town points for it.
What did he ignore?

What changed in your tenshii/wisdom reads between when you voted wisdom, and now?
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:46 pm

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In post 280, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 278, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not liking Tenshii's ignorance of things plainly stated. Him saying I could be scum would be good for him, but the way Tenshii presented it makes me unable to give him Town points for it.
What did he ignore?

What changed in your tenshii/wisdom reads between when you voted wisdom, and now?
He ignored Wisdom saying he townread me.
My tenshii read is going a bit scummish now, while Wisdom is more towny now.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:16 pm

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Wisdom saying he townreads you, like tenshii said, isn't really relevant to the point. The point is that wisdom's scumread on tenshii should've influence his townread on you.

Why do you think scum would blatantly ignore things?

Why is wisdom more towny now, and why is tenshii more scummy other than "ignoring things"?

@tenshii If scum!wisdom was looking for reasons to townread gamma, why would he miss such an obvious one?
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:31 pm

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In post 274, Tenshii wrote:
In post 211, Leonshade wrote:I'm conflicted, as
I don't like Wisdom's reluctance to communicate and unwillingness to elaborate on his points,
but overall I'm not getting a scum vibe from him.
So despite the bold, you FEEL that he's not scum?
I don't see scum motivation in his behavior. Reads are often part gut-feeling, especially early on. How do you feel about my vote on you?
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:04 pm

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Tenshi is still obvscum
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:11 pm

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In post 273, Tenshii wrote:Wisdom scumread ASP for the same reason I scumread Gamma.
No, I didn't. I nowhere scumread ASP. I mentioned him as one of the four people I considered scummier than Gamma. That's completely different than your outright scumread on Gamma.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:12 pm

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In post 273, Tenshii wrote:If there's even a reason behind Wisdom's scumread in the first place, I doubt it though. Again, he's just throwing out reads/names at his convenience. The only excuse he has for not outting reasons is "laziness." A convenient excuse to avoid having to give out actual reasons.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:12 pm

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In post 273, Tenshii wrote:Wisdom then later realizes the impossibility of two scum being together, so he just conveniently abandons said scumread and then townreads ASP. This shows how baseless his ASP read was in the first place.
Once again I nowhere said I townread ASP, so you're once again misrepping in order to build fake points.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:14 pm

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In post 273, Tenshii wrote:This is Wisdom not catching it because scum!Wisdom knows I'm town. And this is also Wisdom not considering the possibility of scum!Tenshii bussing scum!Gamma because scum!Wisdom wants his lover!Gamma to be townread.
your opportunistic push on Gamma looked nothing like a bus so yeah
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:15 pm

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In post 273, Tenshii wrote:he couldn't back it up
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:16 pm

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In post 278, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not liking Tenshii's ignorance of things plainly stated. Him saying I could be scum would be good for him, but the way Tenshii presented it makes me unable to give him Town points for it.
then vote him
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:23 pm

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I remember tenshii asked me about what creature said in the lover PT, it was mainly him explaining his reads. I'll let creature go into it if he wants to.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:35 am

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Jesus this game blew up quick. I'll read and figure stuffs out after class today (so at most, twelve hours or so).

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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:21 am

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In post 290, Wisdom wrote:
In post 278, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not liking Tenshii's ignorance of things plainly stated. Him saying I could be scum would be good for him, but the way Tenshii presented it makes me unable to give him Town points for it.
then vote him
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:29 am

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oh hey look who decided to stop by :wink:
In post 279, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 272, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 271, Infinity 324 wrote:Why are weak pushes and bad logic scummy -_-
because scum need to fabricate cases on townies without real reasons, so they have to use bad reasons.
You could make the same argument to say wisdom is scum, but that's not really a thing

Town uses bad logic a lot, and it's really not that hard for scum to fabricate reasons that look reasonable
*shrug* in my experience, bad logic and pushes with weak reasoning more often come from scum than on average, at the very least. It also depends on how they react when called out on said bad logic.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:49 am

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In post 277, Something_Smart wrote:What makes you think I was anxious?
Anxious: experiencing worry, unease, or nervousness, typically about an imminent event or something with an uncertain outcome.
You were worrying about a push that didn't even happen.
In post 278, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not liking Tenshii's ignorance of things plainly stated. Him saying I could be scum would be good for him, but the way Tenshii presented it makes me unable to give him Town points for it.
What?
In post 281, Gamma Emerald wrote:He ignored Wisdom saying he townread me.
Him townreading you doesn't exempt him from getting more reasons to townread you
In post 282, Infinity 324 wrote:@tenshii If scum!wisdom was looking for reasons to townread gamma, why would he miss such an obvious one?
Because he knows I'm town
In post 283, Leonshade wrote:I don't see scum motivation in his behavior. Reads are often part gut-feeling, especially early on. How do you feel about my vote on you?
A weak PoE. You've stated that you didn't find SS's defensiveness scummy but I don't see any justification for a townread. And then you're townreading Wisdom + Gamma. The whole read which I assume is gut.
In post 286, Wisdom wrote:"blah blah I dont like his playstyle Ill try to use it against him"
The fuck? So intentionally not sharing reads/reasons is considered a playstyle?
In post 291, Infinity 324 wrote:I remember tenshii asked me about what creature said in the lover PT, it was mainly him explaining his reads. I'll let creature go into it if he wants to.
What do you think of him sharing his reads privately to you instead of him sharing his reads publicly?
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:01 am

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uh, yes? how is that even a question
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:15 am

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In post 295, Tenshii wrote:
In post 277, Something_Smart wrote:What makes you think I was anxious?
Anxious: experiencing worry, unease, or nervousness, typically about an imminent event or something with an uncertain outcome.
You were worrying about a push that didn't even happen.
You clearly know so much about my emotions, you should be a therapist :wink:

I didn't want that push to occur (because it was baseless) but based on my experience I thought it likely that somebody would have tried it if I hadn't preempted it. I didn't want to waste thread space and brainpower.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:16 am

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Don't get how scum!wisdom knows gamma is town therefore he'd be less likely to find obvious reasons to townread him. Don't see the connection there at all. You're less likely to miss reasons if you're looking for them...

Creature posting more in private is...understandable. Don't want to speak for him, but anything you say in public can give info to scum, and he townreads me, so...
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:17 am

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In post 298, Infinity 324 wrote:Don't get how scum!wisdom knows gamma is town therefore he'd be less likely to find obvious reasons to townread him. Don't see the connection there at all. You're less likely to miss reasons if you're looking for them...

Creature posting more in private is...understandable. Don't want to speak for him, but anything you say in public can give info to scum, and he townreads me, so...
Scum!Wisdom would have an easier time finding reasons because they know I'm town.
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