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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:57 am

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was that a scumclaim smh
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:40 pm

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I asked the mod to see if there was an error.
The best I understood it, role bid action don't go through a jk.
So it's possible that Lane did send me the results.
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:17 pm

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From my prospective mcmenno is town. No way scum would try to kill me just to jk me.

Why is Charlo a scum read mcmenno?
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:28 pm

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the first post is updated to have six 'living' players left, but i'm still listed as darklight. harsh, mod. ;>

looking at the final votes when yesterday's lynch was achieved... my best picks for scum are Charloux and BNL. farside is obvious town and, while i'm unsure about lane, i feel better about him after our interactions. if farside is town, McMenno is 90% town.
that's process of elimination.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:04 am

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In post 703, Not Chara wrote: looking at the final votes when yesterday's lynch was achieved... my best picks for scum are Charloux and BNL.
Explain how you came to the conclusion? This is bull from my point of view!
In post 703, Not Chara wrote: farside is obvious town and, while i'm unsure about lane, i feel better about him after our interactions. if farside is town, McMenno is 90% town.
that's process of elimination.
If Farside is town, and so is Mc; Then wouldn't i be as well? Or do you think i spent coins for some wifom? How do you tell the difference between mc and me?
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:12 am

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i just told you it was process of elimination + looking at the wagons.
McMenno used his jailbreak and there was no kill. whether farside is town or scum, that's good evidence for McMenno beind town. scum can bid on abilities just like anyone else. if buying something was all it took for a confirmation of being town... and it's a supersaint in the first place. it's not like a cop, which has zero scum utility besides wifom.

also, look at the wagons. do you have a better explanation? were both scum actually on the MOHIS wagon? i'm aware that's possible, but i have a minor townread on lane, and farside is farside. i wouldn't put you above either of the two.
i know you had difficulties posting at the end of day 2. what were your thoughts there? were you townreading me or scumreading me by the end?
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:26 am

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Buying? I gifted it to Farside, though? There are two possibilities then.
1)Farside is town who was attacked. So me gifting it would kill my "partner" along with her.
2)Farside is scum and i gifted it because she is my partner? Everybody thinks she's obvtown so this can't be it right?

Even i can bite back once in a while.
VOTE: Not Chara, nobody else makes more sense to be scum. The other scum is Lane/BnL but i have a townread on BnL so i'll go with Lane
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:30 am

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wait. you did. why did i get confused by that.
you're actually confirmed town unless you were pulling a gambit to kill your partner and claim credit, which i very much doubt. or if farside is scum and McMenno blocked her kill, which i doubt.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:31 am

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so not really 'confirmed' more like... 'if you're not town it involves a very smart gambit'.
VOTE: BNL
this works.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:37 am

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hm. if farside is actually scum, everything gets really complicated.

lane, did you ever explain when you ended up townreading her enough to give her the cop result? i know you had her at lean town at some point yesterday.
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:46 am

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In the off chance that's true, the only confirmed town is Mc then.
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:59 am

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not confirmed. just very likely. either way, i think he's town.
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:20 am

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In post 691, Not Chara wrote:BNL, you were with us on the MOHIS wagon. why did your read on me flip like that?
Yesterday I thought that if Mohis was town you are likely scum for voting him with weak reasons. I thought it was more likely that Mohis was scum then, but today we know he's town.
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:25 am

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In post 701, farside22 wrote:I asked the mod to see if there was an error.
The best I understood it, role bid action don't go through a jk.
So it's possible that Lane did send me the results.
Well, it seems that the JK is Roleblocker + Rolestopper, rather than the standard Roleblocker + Doctor...
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:42 am

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In post 707, Not Chara wrote:wait. you did. why did i get confused by that.
you're actually confirmed town unless you were pulling a gambit to kill your partner and claim credit, which i very much doubt. or if farside is scum and McMenno blocked her kill, which i doubt.
Hmm, I actually didn't realise that! So if farside is town, McMenno is town due to block (unless gambit), Charloux is town due to kill being on player gifted the bomb (unless super gambit), which leaves Not Chara and Lane for scum...

Lemme think a bit. I feel that NC pointing this town out it towny, so there are some possibilities:
1. NC is actually scum and is trying to gain towncred out of this. Or
2. Farside is scum by contradiction. I think farside is obvtown, but I don't really have reasoning on this. Will need to reread.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:56 am

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So if we can be sure that farside is town, there are potential breaking strategies as we have 3 clears (barring gambits) but no mislynch unless we gain one with the BP or PGO.

Ideally we can get the BP and PGO on two different clears and the third watches the BP, which maximises our opportunities for catching scum. BP should visit unconfirmed.

So all I need to consider now are:
-Farside's alignment
-The viability of McMenno's and Charloux's gambits as scum (and who's scum between Lane/Chara in this case)
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:00 am

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Side note: I've asked the mod, the bulletproof can only die if he visits the pgo AND gets killed by the Mafia (barring Watcher actions)
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:42 am

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Okay poe on this based on what we know and what I read is lane/bnl/nc
I don't see why Charlo as scum would gift me the bomb.
The only reason nc is on my poe list is dark play. A bit of paranoia there.
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:41 am

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Alright where are we?
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:43 am

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In post 709, Not Chara wrote:hm. if farside is actually scum, everything gets really complicated.

lane, did you ever explain when you ended up townreading her enough to give her the cop result? i know you had her at lean town at some point yesterday.
No specifically. But it was a coin flip between you and Farside after I decided I wouldn't give it to bnl
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:46 am

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Why the hell aren't we considering scum Gambits for town cred? I find that to be highly viable, including a no kill situation.

I'm not dropping my Charloux read. I learned my lesson about doing that.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:48 am

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In post 696, lane0168 wrote:
In post 694, Charloux wrote:
In post 689, lane0168 wrote:Why didn't you want super Saint for yourself?
1) I don't get NK-ed unless i claim a good role
2) The bomb kills the guy who hammers= Most likely town dies because they scumread me
3) I think it was kinda obvious Farside would be the NK so i wanted to kill scum like that. And it would've worked too if Mc didn't save her!!!
Or if you're scum
In lylo, don't you think scum are most likely to hammer?
What are the chances mcmenno saved Farside?
You ignored this Charloux, why?
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:54 am

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In post 698, McMenno wrote:if she was town she was most likely target if scum most likely to perform kill

honestly I'm leading towards lynching charloux, I'll hammer because I already got rb and jk (I rb'd dka btw, didn't claim because scum killed)
But what did you think you were doing? Blocking or saving Farside?
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:58 am

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In post 717, farside22 wrote:Okay poe on this based on what we know and what I read is lane/bnl/nc
I don't see why Charlo as scum would gift me the bomb.
The only reason nc is on my poe list is dark play. A bit of paranoia there.
Very much needed towncred is enough to give you the bomb
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:01 am

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In post 702, farside22 wrote:From my prospective mcmenno is town. No way scum would try to kill me just to jk me.

Why is Charlo a scum read mcmenno?
Again, town reading them for the action is reason enough

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