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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
In post 298, Infinity 324 wrote:Don't get how scum!wisdom knows gamma is town therefore he'd be less likely to find obvious reasons to townread him. Don't see the connection there at all. You're less likely to miss reasons if you're looking for them...
Creature posting more in private is...understandable. Don't want to speak for him, but anything you say in public can give info to scum, and he townreads me, so...
Scum!Wisdom would have an easier time finding reasons because they know I'm town.
So then he would be less likely to miss reasons...right?
Wisdom being more likely to do something doesn't mean he'll do it all the time.
If not sharing reads/reasons and dodging questions is considered to be a "playstyle" and not scummy, then I don't get how to play mafia. It would be so easy to play as mafia with this "playstyle."
Still voting Wisdom.
In post 1, mhsmith0 wrote:If a majority is not reached by the deadline, a random town aligned pair will be lynched.
You gotta play to win, Wisdom's playstyle may have traits that would benefit a scum game but that doesn't mean that he got a scum role PM. I'm not reading Wisdom as scum overall right now, so the fact that you might call something he does scummy doesn't matter at the moment.
"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
- Vecna
In post 305, Leonshade wrote:I'm not reading Wisdom as scum overall right now, so the fact that you might call something he does scummy doesn't matter at the moment.
I don't understand what you mean by this. Even with the correction.
In post 307, Infinity 324 wrote:Wisdom's playstyle has one big downside for scum: it draws negative attention to himself. I think he'd be trying to look town more if he was scum
Okay, and the negative attention happens because? And who would care about looking town when you can get away with a playstyle like that.
In post 305, Leonshade wrote:I'm not reading Wisdom as scum overall right now, so the fact that you might call something he does scummy doesn't matter at the moment.
I don't understand what you mean by this. Even with the correction.
Town can
look
scummy too, so the fact that Wisdom has traits that
look
scummy doesn't mean that he's scum. I don't think that Wisdom is scum, so him doing something that
looks
scummy doesn't matter. If my read on Wisdom changes, I might view his play through different lenses, but at the moment I'm leaning town on him.
Tenshii wrote:
In post 307, Infinity 324 wrote:Wisdom's playstyle has one big downside for scum: it draws negative attention to himself. I think he'd be trying to look town more if he was scum
Okay, and the negative attention happens because? And who would care about looking town when you can get away with a playstyle like that.
Wisdom drew more negative attention on himself while he had suspicion and the start of a wagon against him, which is behavior more likely to come from town than scum.
"I still cant believe Leonshade just talked his way out of getting lynched by posting Lion King gifs"
- Vecna
In post 310, Leonshade wrote:Town can look scummy too, so the fact that Wisdom has traits that look scummy doesn't mean that he's scum.
What??? "the fact that Wisdom has traits that look scummy" /thread. You're implying you agree with me on my points.
Sure, town can look scummy. Scum can look towny too. That doesn't take away from the fact that Wisdom is being scummy.
In post 310, Leonshade wrote:Wisdom drew more negative attention on himself while he had suspicion and the start of a wagon against him, which is behavior more likely to come from town than scum.
I was implying that the negative attention happened because he's being scummy. Wagons happen on either alignment.
In post 310, Leonshade wrote:Town can look scummy too, so the fact that Wisdom has traits that look scummy doesn't mean that he's scum.
What??? "the fact that Wisdom has traits that look scummy" /thread. You're implying you agree with me on my points.
Sure, town can look scummy. Scum can look towny too. That doesn't take away from the fact that Wisdom is being scummy.
In post 310, Leonshade wrote:Wisdom drew more negative attention on himself while he had suspicion and the start of a wagon against him, which is behavior more likely to come from town than scum.
I was implying that the negative attention happened because he's being scummy. Wagons happen on either alignment.
Being blatantly anti-town early in the game is basically guaranteed to draw attention to yourself, so it's usually not a good scum tactic. Either wisdom fucked up really badly or he's town. And don't say that was his plan all along cause...no, it wasn't.
In post 298, Infinity 324 wrote:Don't get how scum!wisdom knows gamma is town therefore he'd be less likely to find obvious reasons to townread him. Don't see the connection there at all. You're less likely to miss reasons if you're looking for them...
Creature posting more in private is...understandable. Don't want to speak for him, but anything you say in public can give info to scum, and he townreads me, so...
Scum!Wisdom would have an easier time finding reasons because they know I'm town.
a) A reason to townread wisdom
b) A reason to scumread wisdom
c) Other ____________________
Normally people don't just point out things for the sake of them. If it's not relevant to people's reads on wisdom then I don't see why you mentioned it.
Then you're missing the point entirely. What I was trying to say is that scum!wisdom wouldn't be likely to miss obvious reasons to townread you, and therefore would probably say that tenshii being scum makes you town.
But your response makes more sense in that context, I guess
Tenshii's play, based upon a quick skim, feels more newb indicative than scummy.
I'd say I like this better.
VOTE: Creature
And then I realistically could see Wisdom as potential partner due to early softbussing among other things.
Note
: I'll be away most of the weekend. VLA through Sunday evening, possibly into Monday, but it'll be approaching 48 hours minimum. Apologies for the one-off; life has just kinda... Sucked, y'know?
