Newbie 1741 - Game Over

[Titus]

I guess it will be awhile before we are breaking dawn.

[Morning Tweet]

Would you look at that, I made it in time!

I've got a question, is it common for scum to keep acting like they're town during twilight? If not, I'm inclined to believe algebra's hammer was just so no one would have the chance to change their minds from the shadow mislynch, and he's definite scum.

If scum usually does keep acting town to the bitter end + that's what Shadow's doing, I'm not sure what to make of the hammer. If algebra and Shadow are scumbuddies, I'd think algebra would at least try to earn some kind of townpoints with the bus rather than make it as suspicious as:

Catching up, but tbh I'm not a fan of the shadow wagon

All caught up, but going to be phone posting and mild v/la this weekend. Shadow looks scum with his defense and flail.VOTE: Shadow

These are algebra's last two posts.

[Titus]

They do if smart.

[algebra]

Self preservation is nai. I'd rather lynch someone who has a chance of being scum then get a conf town lynched.

[Mina]

Prodding Xalxe.

[aronagrundy]

Self preservation is nai. I'd rather lynch someone who has a chance of being scum then get a conf town lynched.

Is this why you hammered shaddowez?

[algebra]

I'd take a scumlean over a town with a couple days left any day

[Titus]

I'd take a scumlean over a town with a couple days left any day

Since when was Shaddowez a Scumlean?

[algebra]

His play started going downhill 284 forward

[Empoof]

His play started going downhill 284 forward

Weren't you not a fan of the shadow wagon in 318?

[Empoof]

Xalxe bb please come home I just want to start D2 already

[Titus]

Mod: please remember nn30 is VLA until Tuesday

[algebra]

His play started going downhill 284 forward

Weren't you not a fan of the shadow wagon in 318?

I was catching up at that point.

[Xalxe]

My sincerest apologies all; I ended up in a black hole of no service this weekend and have only just regained it.

VC/flip shortly.

[Xalxe]

Vote Count 1.10

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shaddowez (5): Papa Zito, Empoof, aronagrundy, Titus, algebra

algebra (4)

: nn30, Morning Tweet, Dunhallym, shaddowez

Not Voting

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With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-10-02 15:42:07)

[Xalxe]

shaddowez,

Vanilla Townie

, Lynched Day 1

Night 1 begins now and will last for 72 hours, or (expired on 2016-10-05 19:56:11).

[Xalxe]

aronagrundy,

Jailkeeper

, Killed Night 1

Day 2 begins now and will last for 14 days, or (expired on 2016-10-19 21:53:21).

[Papa Zito]

Hmm.

Reading.

[Xalxe]

I made a terrible error in my flip which has been fixed.

[Papa Zito]

I liked the other one better.

[Titus]

OK, so why agrundy is my question. Did they see a crumb?

At least one of my townreads must be scum. So not to thrilled about that.

[nn30]

Just finished my re-read of the thread (and an Arona ISO).

To the IC's - when you've played as scum, what have your goals been with NK's?

Arona voted for shadow, titus, algebra, me, and empoof at one point or another.

Her issues with Titus were from Titus' scumreading of me on page one. She also indicates in 230 that she thinks Titus is town.

Her issues with me were from early-mid game. She indicates in 257 that she thinks of me as less scummy due to a reinterpretation of something that happened.

When Empoof entered the game she scumread him for a while but eventually settled on a town read after an exchange between the two of them.

Shadow is dead.

All that leaves is Algebra. However, I don't actually think a scum Algebra has much to gain from killing Arona - he's already on the block with so many of us that one NK isn't going to change the general feeling towards him.

Option 1) Arona was killed because she was being read as townie. Empoof was the only person who comes to mind to even vote her seriously. She never gained any significant heat beyond that.

Option 2) Arona was onto something. Other than Algebra, she didn't seem to be zero'd in on anyone. If I had to choose between myself, Titus, and Empoof, Arona's weakest town read was on me. So that's something I guess.

Option 3) Arona was killed because scum had a PR tell on her (unlikely).

[Dunhallym]

@nn
Most common reasons for NKs can be: getting rid of a player that suspects you (can backfire), trying to frame somebody else by killing someone who suspects them or PR hunting. Then there can be other reasons: trying to provide as little information as possible, etc... There's also the "healer threat" to take into account (on our website docs are called healers): the main town reads are likely to be protected.
I'll need to ISO arona as well but from memory he first accused Titus for the algebra/arona theory, then decided that Titus was likely town and turned on Empoof. I disagreed with his reasoning, and even entertained a crackpot theory linking him and Titus (which is why I pushed him on his reasoning). I had him as a scumlean as well, and Titus obviously suspected him in conjonction with algebra. I think the kill would make sense for algebra as it kills the algebra/arona theory.
I will try to do more on Saturday (not much time today or tomorrow).
For now, I still want algebra dead, but day 2 is also time to reevaluate things.

[Empoof]

tbh I thought that red Algebra would have arona as a likely partner.
Papa thoughts on why you're still alive itg.

VOTE: Algebra

I at least want to keep my line of questioning on this atm.
Algebra give me the break down of what you knew when you made this post:

Catching up, but tbh I'm not a fan of the shadow wagon

Since you knowing about the shadow wagon meant you had read up to a certain point but you somehow hadn't read shadow's posts at the same time.

I'm gonna read through the thread again in full at some point today.
Also aronagrundy was a dude @nn

[Papa Zito]

Papa thoughts on why you're still alive itg.

Yeah I did everything I could to get nked, I dunno why they didn't oblige.

I am still chewing on all this delicious info plz stand by.