Newbie 1744 - Game Over

[Toto]

Nice...

This game is boring so far. I propose the following strategy:

Let's lynch Frank and see if he turns scum. If he does we lynch humansequencer, and we go home.
Otherwise on day two we lynch Gideon who is overly-defending Spy. If that doesn't work, then I propose we lynch Jason for being an idiot on day 3.

We can also adapt the strategy along the way!

Who is with me?

[SpyreX]

What about gideon was actually defending me and from what?

Why would you lynch frank first?

Why do you have no opinion about the giant walls or the parties involved?

[FrankJaeger]

@frank, what actual vexation do you think that vote adds?

That depends on you, doesn't it?

[FrankJaeger]

Hello.

Jason and Frank, what's your reasoning for voting SpyreX? I don't think he had said anything but 'hello' when you voted him.

Didn't have any real discernment in the vote.

[SpyreX]

Let me rephrase. What about that vote would concern me at all? Even if i was scum, what about a second page 1 vote would be vexing

[Huntress]

Vote Count 1.2

copper223 (2) - TownCop, JasonWazza
SpyreX (2) - FrankJaeger, Toto
TownCop (1) - copper223

Not voting (4) - Gideon, Human Sequencer, Kaladin, SpyreX


With nine players alive, it takes five votes to lynch.

Deadline for Day One is Saturday, 15th October 8pm BST, (in (expired on 2016-10-15 20:00:00)).

Notes

I will find a replacement for Kaladin if he hasn't appeared by the morning.

(also I just realized I have no idea what the VC is, so mod, please don't lynch IC if this is the lynching vote).

If a vote is valid it will always be counted, regardless of any conditions attached.

[FrankJaeger]

I'm just asking questions at this point. I've got something to say from this page, but not yet.

The others are 'justified' as well as Jasons was. Franks is a bit different yes

'justified' is a bit generous,though I get your sentiment. You allude to my vote as being different. Any real reason, aside from semantics?

[SpyreX]

Yours is different because, clearly, you felt like it was applying actual pressure. That's the start of an actual wagon versus just standard nonsense starting votes

[FrankJaeger]

I hate playing with VI's or people that pretend to be, I suspect you pulled that statement out of your ass because

you

would not have delayed.

It's impossible for me to use a question that I asked

before

you followed up to avoid answering, unfortunately I haven't invented time travel yet.

Newbies posting without knowing about RVS may be revealing because it's a situation where the town and scum win-cons lead to different incentives on how to react, namely newbie townies are more likely to want to understand what is going on.

My reply was tied to the above because I was going to explain what RVS is to Gideon by linking the wiki page (hello IC).

This post caught my attention. First thing, the language got spicy (I like it, but kind of sudden right?).
The VI banter is odd. This is a newbie game, so wouldn't he be an IV? Ignorant villager? Meh anyway, I'm not sure if Copper actually believes what he's saying.

BTW I agree with everything else copper is saying here

[FrankJaeger]

The fact that you think hiding RVS from the new players is actually a good thing is just terrible

Can you show me where Copper did this?

[FrankJaeger]

It's all good I've got good feelings about you mr Gideon.

I agree on this, but could you elaborate on why you feel the way you do?

[SpyreX]

I will, but not quite yet. Remind me if i haven't once the game starts being more active.

[SpyreX]

Frank if you could shoot someone right now, who and why

[FrankJaeger]

Nice...

This game is boring so far. I propose the following strategy:

Let's lynch Frank and see if he turns scum. If he does we lynch humansequencer, and we go home.
Otherwise on day two we lynch Gideon who is overly-defending Spy. If that doesn't work, then I propose we lynch Jason for being an idiot on day 3.

We can also adapt the strategy along the way!

Who is with me?

Surprise! Not I!

Sure, I might be a little biased about your Day 1 lynch pick. BUT my real reason is your plan is perplexing/hectic.
I've read scum like to create confusion, so how about a plan that's a little easier to follow?

Just my two cents.

Why are you still voting for spy?

Speaking of that, UNVOTE: Spy

[Toto]

What about gideon was actually defending me and from what?

He was pretty upset you were being voted by two people in page 1. I think frank just quoted that post.

Why would you lynch frank first?

Double suspicious of him because of the wall.

Why do you have no opinion about the giant walls or the parties involved?

Yep. Both of them are included in the strategy. You have to admit it is close to perfect!

[Toto]

actually I forgot about copper. I'll think about the strategy.

[FrankJaeger]

Let me rephrase. What about that vote would concern me at all? Even if i was scum, what about a second page 1 vote would be vexing

Again, it depends on you.

Generally

a townie wouldn't want a vote on them. They would want a vote on the real scum. I guess a scum would think the same... Either way its annoying right? Scum could potentially make a mistake with any sort of pressure.

Probably a long shot, but do you see a problem with it?

[FrankJaeger]

Aww you guys think I'm posting walls? *blush*

Dont give me so much credit.

[SpyreX]

I'll leave that for him to answer, but there's a very clear disconnect between your statement and my perception of that reality.

If that's actually your plan, why not even vote to show belief in it.

Pedit:

I dont have a problem with it. It should be very clear the probing is just that.

I'll say that generally speaking your premise can be correct much later. This early? Very doubtful

[FrankJaeger]

Frank if you could shoot someone right now, who and why

You first. Pinky promise Ill answer after

[FrankJaeger]

I dont have a problem with it. It should be very clear the probing is just that.

I'll say that generally speaking your premise can be correct much later. This early? Very doubtful

Right, but isn't there a rule or something about not letting the subject know he's being tested? Like it could change their reaction. I don't like coming out and saying "reaction test", no matter how obvious it is.

[SpyreX]

There's few hard and fast rules. Personally i hate reaction tests, mostly because it inevitably involved doing something scummy to see something.

Id shoot jason right in his face as of right now

[FrankJaeger]

Toto, you over looked my question.


Ive got the week off guys so Ill be pretty active here, lets have some fun.

[FrankJaeger]

There's few hard and fast rules. Personally i hate reaction tests, mostly because it inevitably involved doing something scummy to see something.

Id shoot jason right in his face as of right now

Couldn't you declare that by definition anything a townie does regarding scum hunting cant be scummy? Am I looking at this too literally? Maybe to philosophically? In any case that's not important here.

Jason you say? Right in the face? Brutal. Why Jason?

You can surmise who my shot would be.With just what I have to work with so far, it would be toto.

[SpyreX]

Faking a cop claim, actively choosing to.lurk, etc etc.

Some.things are scummy, some things are seriously scummy. Those tend.to be the 'lolreactions' stuff that's made me.so jaded.

I'll give more details down the road. I'm playing a patient d1.