Mini 506: The Siena Syndicate - Game Over!

[October Raven]

Actually, I just realized that he'd be -3 if I vote, not -2.

My non-vote stands, as I'm still not sure which way the wheel is turning, so to speak.

[Peers]

It's also possible that Glork was killed simply because he had a rep as a scum-hunter -- for the scum, taking out a power role was secondary to taking out the guy they knew would be dangerous, and no thought was given to who it would frame or not.

... y'know, I just realized how annoying it is to want evidence on someone, and realize the cop is dead. Sunnova... okay, why do people suspect Quag again?

[WaterboyWaldo]

vote: Quagmire

[Quagmire]

vote: Quagmire

you and gorrad are the final scum partners. nice bandwagoning me.

[Quagmire]

I'm still dumbfounded when it comes to why oman didn't vote for me. I claimed townie, and he was obviously a pro-town cop. No matter what the role, isn't he more valuable?

I'm thinking that he wanted to show his innocent result on me by not lynching me, but he probably just ended up forgetting about the game on Wednesday...

[Xdaamno]

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Page 21 Votecount

Quagmire: 2

(ooba, WaterboyWaldo)

Gorrad: 1

(Quagmire)

Not Voting: 5

(clockwork, vampyrusddg, October Raven, Peers, Gorrad)

Player List: ooba, clockwork, vampyrusddg, WaterboyWaldo, October Raven, Gorrad, Peers, Quagmire.

Five (5) to lynch.

[Peers]

Vote: WaterboyWaldo

for a) not giving a reason for his vote and b) not having posted a whole lot since he showed up.

[Gorrad]

vote: Quagmire

you and gorrad are the final scum partners. nice bandwagoning me.

Unvote: Quagmire

I don't want 2 votes on anyone yet, too risky.

Quag, why do you think the two people to FIRST vote you would be scummy? If Scum were to lynch, they would be the last three to vote. If someone were to put on a third vote, then one of the three could be scum. Two people voting means that if they're scum (like you think us to be) then you're in no danger of being quicklynched. Two people is a danger, not a bandwagon.

[WaterboyWaldo]

vote: Quagmire

you and gorrad are the final scum partners. nice bandwagoning me.

Holy cow. Two people is bandwagoning now? Paranoia much?

[vampyrusddg]

greetings all, will be giving a thorough read and my thoughts tommorow

[ooba]

I'm thinking that he wanted to show his innocent result on me by not lynching me, but he probably just ended up forgetting about the game on Wednesday...

If oman had investigated you and got a innocent result , would he really vote for you and ask for your claim ?

I suppose based on larger merit (as in the whole game rather than a few little things)

Unvote Vote Quag

I support a Quag claim.

I'm gonna be V/LA for this deadline.

Unvote

Where do i want to put this?

Okay, I'll

vote Quag

But if the claim is good I'll need you guys to jump off. This is only there in case we need the lynch.

[October Raven]

Vote: Quagmire

, because his quick accusation was simply grasping for straws.

[Quagmire]

Vote: Quagmire

, because his quick accusation was simply grasping for straws.

hmm...bandwagoning tactics duly noted.

[vampyrusddg]

Okay, after reading through my initial suspicions are of Gorrad, and Peers.

However with the current situation I don't think both are scum, otherwise they could have speed lynched Quag and won if we are in LYLO which makes me think of 3 possible scenarios:

1 Quag is scum

2 Theres already scum on Quag's wagon

3 Theres 2 scum groups

Now I'm going to rule scenario 3 as highly unlikely straight away, with only 1 NK on N1 (which was scum) and only 1 on N2 as well it's unlikely that Glork got a sucsessful protect both times. This goes for an SK as well, although that could be more likely as he could have held off N2 to try and keep the game tight between the scum and town, this would offer him the best chance of winning, which would only leave the doc making one lucky protect.

In conclusion I'm thinking:
1st scum: Peers or Gorrad
2nd scum: Quagmire, Ooba, or WBW

I'm going to have to read back through to figure this out though, especialy over the multiple replaces period

If I had to go out on a limb here I'd be betting on Gorrad as the best lynch for today, but I'm not going to put my money where my mouth is yet and I would suggest no-one else does yet. As I've already pointed out with hasty votes you've already put the town in a position where it could have already lost. Let's build up cases against players here and get some good discussion going before theres any more rash moves.

[ooba]

That fits with my predicted scum pair of Peers/Quag ...
But i guess you're right about having more discussion and not being hasty ..

Unvote

[Peers]

Well, I'll tell you right now I'm not scum, so I'm not part of any scumpair. Why would I warn people about LILO and the possibility of a quicklynch by scum (488/490) if I was scum? I'm trying to make sure the town wins here.

[WaterboyWaldo]

My appologiez. I had written out notes for this game, but my comp crashed and I lost them. I had a reason to vote Quag, but I don't remember what it was. I don't know much about pairs, but I thought he was individually scummy.

[Gorrad]

OR: Please unvote, we've already said why we don't want two people voting the same one. A quicklynch is too likely.

Vamp: Can you explain your suspicions? You said we need to build up cases, but you've contributed nothing to building up those cases except pointing fingers with no given reason.

[vampyrusddg]

Vamp: Can you explain your suspicions? You said we need to build up cases, but you've contributed nothing to building up those cases except pointing fingers with no given reason.

which is exactly why I havn't voted yet, when I've got more time I will build cases on you and peers, and look over the play of the other 3 as well, although I've realised I've already made a miscalculation in my previous post - i.e. if it was only 2 scum left and they weren't already on the quagwagon they wouldn't have jumped it anyway, in that scenario we would not be in LYLO and their quicklynch would only result in the pair of them being under serious pressure in LYLO on day 4.

That only leaves my initial impressions as really counting at the moment though I still feel there was definitly something scummy going on with the early quag votes when we could be in LYLO

regardless of wether we're in a LYLO situation or not it's best we err on the side of caution here. I'll hopefuly have time to do something later on, if not it will be around this time tomorrow when I get something together

[October Raven]

Gorrad, I would gladly unvote, but Quagmire is obviously trying to pin scumlabels on everyone who votes for him.

It's a balatant case of "You're suspecting me, that's suspicious!"

[Quagmire]

Gorrad, I would gladly unvote, but Quagmire is obviously trying to pin scumlabels on everyone who votes for him.

It's a balatant case of "You're suspecting me, that's suspicious!"

No, I've talked about gorrad differently

[Gorrad]

OR, we can't have 2 votes on someone. If there are 3 scum left, they could quicklynch, although the fact that this hasn't happened yet makes me think there might only be two- or one of the current voters is scum. Waldo, will you unvote if OR won't?

[October Raven]

Gorrad, funny how you don't mention the possibility of Quagmire not being scum, which would be another perfectly rational explanation for a quicklynch not happening. In fact you even go ahead and make a backhanded accusation against me.

FoS: Gorrad