Open 655: Fire and Ice Mafia OVER

[Blix900]

Blix900 is posting elsewhere.

Yea, I hadn't caught up here yet because I had like 20 pages to read in my other thread.

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VC 1.7

Charloux

L-4

(3) Expedience, malpascp, Lowell
Blix900

L-5

(2) Dunnstral, Creature
Creature

L-5

(2) Blix900, Tenshii
Tenshii

L-5

(2) Io, Drone
Dunnstral

L-6

(1) Firebringer
Io

L-6

(1) Kop
Drone

L-7

(0)
Expedience

L-7

(0)
Firebringer

L-7

(0)
Kop

L-7

(0)
Lowell

L-7

(0)
malpascp

L-7

(0)
MariaR

L-7

(0)

No Lynch

L-7

(0)

Not Voting (2) Charloux, MariaR

With 13 alive, it requires seven (7) votes to achieve a lynch!

V/LA: N/A

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-10-16 11:00:00)

[Kop]

But you're the only one voting Io.

And your point?

It would be far easier for me to jump onto a wagon without any resistance, but that's bandwagoning without any reason of my own to do so. I'm reading back and if I feel that I've missed something towards that wagon, I'll happily contribute to it.

[Creature]

I glimpsed over the whole wagon forming, and didn't feel anything to contribute towards it.

[Kop]

I think I must have mistaken the pressure early doors was creature, not Charloux.

[Blix900]

I'm comfortable with a Kop vote, too eager to join in and make a good impression on everyone.

VOTE: Vote Kop

[Kop]

UNVOTE: Io

I do agree that his (Charloux) ISO, doesn't really look appealing.

[Charloux]

I tried to bring conversation, it backfired on me now i'm dead most likely.
The one who can manipulate the masses best will be the winner here.
I don't even know what i should be defending against

[Blix900]

VOTE: Charloux

That seems way too desperate in an attempt to manipulate.

[Charloux]

What ever i say from now on will be warped to fit me in the role of scum, i have lost.

[Lowell]

I think it's not charloux. Call it gut.

VOTE: Io. I hate to be on the same side as Kop, but this feels right.

[Io]

I feel like the votes on Char are stretching quite a bit, really nothing in their ISO looks bad. Like maybe 409 was the scummiest thing they have said as it's pretty AtE.
I'm also pretty confused in the Creature v Kop just then. It doesn't make much sense at all.

[Dunnstral]

Kop is pretty scummy

[Io]

Kop is pretty scummy

The only thing I really saw was just that he unvoted me for no reason at all.
If he wanted to pressure me he abandoned that really fast, his unvote looked more like he was just trying to get suspicion of of himself because he was given flak for not commenting very much on Char.

[Dunnstral]

I don't want to lynch Charloux today as I don't think he's that scummy compared to others

[Dunnstral]

Don't want to lynch Io either

[Firebringer]

I have nothing to really say about this game right now:
UNVOTE:

[Tenshii]

Kop is pretty scummy

Why?

I don't understand the case on Char.

[Dunnstral]

charloux thinks im a town VI, yet at the same time he nullscumreads me.

vote charloux dogs.

Whilst scum sometimes use VI as scapegoats, I don't think it's the case here.

VOTE: Io

Wall posts ahhhh, scum tend to use wall posts a lot more to gain from the game, to try make out they are town.

UNVOTE: Io

I do agree that his (Charloux) ISO, doesn't really look appealing.

I don't really understand his train of thought here, he starts off implying that charloux is scummy, but then votes Io right after someone else votes charloux

He then unvotes Io saying Charloux's iso doesn't look appealing (Which shouldn't be related to his unvote)

Also his reasoning for voting Io was that scum tend to use wall posts more. I don't think this is even true but if anyone wants to back that up that would be nice
Though even if you say "scum use wall posts more" you're not taking into account the individual player. Maybe they wall post every game.

[Dunnstral]

Lowell just feels like town to me

Still think Blix is our lynch though

[Kop]

charloux thinks im a town VI, yet at the same time he nullscumreads me.

vote charloux dogs.

Whilst scum sometimes use VI as scapegoats, I don't think it's the case here.

VOTE: Io

Wall posts ahhhh, scum tend to use wall posts a lot more to gain from the game, to try make out they are town.

UNVOTE: Io

I do agree that his (Charloux) ISO, doesn't really look appealing.

I don't really understand his train of thought here, he starts off implying that charloux is scummy, but then votes Io right after someone else votes charloux

He then unvotes Io saying Charloux's iso doesn't look appealing (Which shouldn't be related to his unvote)

Also his reasoning for voting Io was that scum tend to use wall posts more. I don't think this is even true but if anyone wants to back that up that would be nice
Though even if you say "scum use wall posts more" you're not taking into account the individual player. Maybe they wall post every game.

I'm not taking individuality into any account of the scum use wall posts more argument. All I'm saying is, scum can often use wall posts to try make out there town, because town tend to think scum wouldn't go to long lengths to try make out there actually doing something. I've used wall posts before trying to pick apart arguments to make out that I'm town trying to work out the game. It's all down to appeal more than anything.

Whilst Charloux ISO isn't very appealing, I didn't really think about contributing to the wagon, because it seemed there was lack of resistance to it, and it seemed easy. It would have been easy to jump on the bandwagon, but I'd rather jump on it for my own reasons, and not what everybody else is force feeding me.

[MariaR]

Nothing much has really changed blix seems like a fine lynch on a quick re read we still got time though.

[Kop]

I'm comfortable with a Kop vote, too eager to join in and make a good impression on everyone.

VOTE: Vote Kop

VOTE: Charloux

That seems way too desperate in an attempt to manipulate.

Why the change? Why so easily?

[Expedience]

Blix is genuine and town

Charloux might be town from the way he gives up, I don't feel so sure about him at least

Kop is scum af ew

VOTE: Kop

[Expedience]

charloux thinks im a town VI, yet at the same time he nullscumreads me.

vote charloux dogs.

Whilst scum sometimes use VI as scapegoats, I don't think it's the case here.

VOTE: Io

Wall posts ahhhh, scum tend to use wall posts a lot more to gain from the game, to try make out they are town.

UNVOTE: Io

I do agree that his (Charloux) ISO, doesn't really look appealing.

I don't really understand his train of thought here, he starts off implying that charloux is scummy, but then votes Io right after someone else votes charloux

He then unvotes Io saying Charloux's iso doesn't look appealing (Which shouldn't be related to his unvote)

Also his reasoning for voting Io was that scum tend to use wall posts more. I don't think this is even true but if anyone wants to back that up that would be nice
Though even if you say "scum use wall posts more" you're not taking into account the individual player. Maybe they wall post every game.

I'm not taking individuality into any account of the scum use wall posts more argument. All I'm saying is, scum can often use wall posts to try make out there town, because town tend to think scum wouldn't go to long lengths to try make out there actually doing something. I've used wall posts before trying to pick apart arguments to make out that I'm town trying to work out the game. It's all down to appeal more than anything.

This is circular and semantic backtracking, obviously it's a reason why you are saying Io could be scum because you vote her in that post. Not "oh sometimes scum wallpost", you pretty much said "wallposting is a scumtell"

For the record, Dunnstral's post felt like scum to me too. It's so weak.

Wow why do I only feel like the posting flows properly at 1:30am

Whilst Charloux ISO isn't very appealing, I didn't really think about contributing to the wagon, because it seemed there was lack of resistance to it, and it seemed easy. It would have been easy to jump on the bandwagon, but I'd rather jump on it for my own reasons, and not what everybody else is force feeding me.

So you didn't want to look like you were """"sheeping"""" k got it