Micro 648: Mystery Box Mafia - 't is gedaan!

[House]

Even though there's a risk of being checked

, scum could take that risk.

If the claim is true, what's the risk?

[Maruchan]

Yeah but my brain saw 4 letters and thought whatever

Also you're right the reason was bs cause I couldn't think of anything creative

VOTE: flames

Lynch all Liars.

He lied about his bullshit madeup reason in his first post.

[Maruchan]

If you don't mind some advice, the best way to avoid getting mislynched is to not worry so much about your appearances.

Hunt scum and trust town to recognize their own.

This never works. Case in Point: I've only ever truly been considered one of the townier/est players in a game in 2 games I have ever played onsite. Thats like less than 5% of my town games do town recognize me as town.

[Maruchan]

Hey everyone

I am currently

ascetic

, this means I cannot be targeted by non-killing night actions, so if you have an action and you think there will be pro-town utility in targeting me, I suggest you look elsewhere.

However, I may (or may not) switch out my role from the Mystery Box, so I'll update you all if I decide to do that

VOTE: Flames682

L-1

uhm.

did I just hammer with what was intended to be a page 1 rvs vote?

[House]

Yeah but my brain saw 4 letters and thought whatever

Also you're right the reason was bs cause I couldn't think of anything creative

VOTE: flames

Lynch all Liars.

He lied about his bullshit madeup reason in his first post.

Annnnnnd we have a lolhammer!

[House]

*crosses fingers for epic p3 scum flip*

[Maruchan]

I am currently ascetic

Why exactly do you think it's a good idea to reveal that info this early?

NJAC why are you voting someone who hasn't posted yet

Partly RVS, partly Meta. Do you think I should vote someone different?

Because for townies with abilities - investigative, protective, roleblock, whatever - that ability is better spent on a person it will actually affect. Any ability spent targeting someone ascetic is a complete waste. It's pro-town to claim and therefore I claim in my first post, and it would be distracting or misleading if I bring it up later towards day end. Nothing would be gained from hiding that I'm currently ascetic.

What meta is relevant here? Why are you continuing RVS on page 2 when there are already posts and wagons to be participating in or commenting on?

I'm not gonna tell you where to put your vote at the moment, but I think it's worth pressing you on why you made a useless one.

This is solid reasoning. As both town and scum, it is pro-you to claim your ascetic early on. As town, it gets pro-town information out as early as possible, which looks towny. As scum, it looks towny, which is good for scum!you. Claiming late has no legitimate positive affect on the town, so as town you shouldn't do it. And anything mechanic wise you shouldn't do as town, you shouldn't do as scum, because your goal is to look towny

[Maruchan]

Flames might actually be the fastest scumread I've picked up in a game, I don't know if the other people on the wagon can say the same.

Care to elaborate? I thought my wagon was a joke

#imadoctor

^post restriction

It's POSSIBLE for someone to get the role again, but then they would need to question whether it's a new mod role (if guilty is lying) or a recycled one.

#imadoctor

Where was your post restriction for all of these posts?

Spoiler: earlier posts

VOTE: NJAC

Cause I'm on mobile and your name is the easiest to type

4 letters vs 5 letters duh

4 letters vs 5 letters duh

Autocomplete duh.

Turned it off cause it was so annoying (really I hate it).

4 letters vs 5 letters duh

Autocomplete duh.

Turned it off cause it was so annoying (really I hate it).

Copy/paste is still a thing.

True but I didn't care enough

Yeah but my brain saw 4 letters and thought whatever

Also you're right the reason was bs cause I couldn't think of anything creative

[House]

I've actually been kicking the claim around, and I can see pro-town motivation that hasn't been mentioned so I'm willing to take the claim at face value and read Guilty town for now.

[GuiltyLion]

I think Maruchan is town even for that hammer, he's trying to get in useful thoughts before threadlock

[GuiltyLion]

actually I retract that, on closer inspection his posts afterwards aren't that useful

[House]

I think Maruchan is town even for that hammer, he's trying to get in useful thoughts before threadlock

Why aren't you?

Any other reads? This is the time.

[House]

Oh duh, that's Flames that got hammered.

Brain fart.

[Maruchan]

claiming ascetic imho is at worst null, and at best town-lean, with no other information/reads

ninja'd X4

[GuiltyLion]

yeh well I mean it's hard without Flames flip, but I think you and Expedience are town, NJAC is a meh, would push on him more as game continues. That's all I got. TBH hammering there is pretty bold for scum!Maruchan so I'm still inclined to townread him, but it's not foolproof

I was kinda hoping Not_Mafia would post because he normally recklessly approaches the Day1 hammer and I thought L-1'ing a scummy slot early would be a good way of reading him. I'm not really unhappy with this lynch but it would've been helpful to get more out of this day

[GuiltyLion]

gigaByte I can see either way, the townread of me is a little too easy but the posting feels relatively genuine on first read

[House]

it would've been helpful to get more out of this day

Obvious statement of the thread award.

[GuiltyLion]

On first impression I doubt scum!gigabyte would openly encourage the Flames wagon along in 40, unless he has a history with Flames and Flames is usually mislynchable, but yeh page 2 reads

also if Flames flips scum then I'd say the wagon is very likely all-town

[House]

gigaByte I can see either way, the townread of me is a little too easy but the posting feels relatively genuine on first read

I was inclined to agree with your opinion of the easy townread until I thought something else.

If she's thinking what I'm thinking she's thinking, then i think her thought is town.

I think.

[Maruchan]

On first impression I doubt scum!gigabyte would openly encourage the Flames wagon along in 40, unless he has a history with Flames and Flames is usually mislynchable, but yeh page 2 reads

also if Flames flips scum then I'd say the wagon is very likely all-town

I disagree.

One of the first few voters could have RVS lol!voted for their scumpartner hoping to use it later for vote count analysis or whatever, and been dragged along for the ride without realizing it.

[GuiltyLion]

On first impression I doubt scum!gigabyte would openly encourage the Flames wagon along in 40, unless he has a history with Flames and Flames is usually mislynchable, but yeh page 2 reads

also if Flames flips scum then I'd say the wagon is very likely all-town

I disagree.

One of the first few voters could have RVS lol!voted for their scumpartner hoping to use it later for vote count analysis or whatever, and been dragged along for the ride without realizing it.

If there's scum on the wagon and Flames is scum, I'd say only for RyanK would this argument be plausible, and even then I'd still look into NJAC or Not_Mafia first.

If Flames is scum, his scumpartner certainly wouldn't be House or Maruchan. giga maaaybe, but they kept up with it in 40, and that post doesn't exactly leave them much room to back off later.

[Sméagol]

Hmm, congrats guys, I believe that's the fastest day 1 lynch in any of my games..

I just got home, I'm eating dinner, then I have to organize some stuff (the box), so those online have 1 or 2 hours to talk before I end this day.

[Flames682]

Flames might actually be the fastest scumread I've picked up in a game, I don't know if the other people on the wagon can say the same.

Care to elaborate? I thought my wagon was a joke

#imadoctor

^post restriction

It's POSSIBLE for someone to get the role again, but then they would need to question whether it's a new mod role (if guilty is lying) or a recycled one.

#imadoctor

Where was your post restriction for all of these posts?

Spoiler: earlier posts

VOTE: NJAC

Cause I'm on mobile and your name is the easiest to type

4 letters vs 5 letters duh

4 letters vs 5 letters duh

Autocomplete duh.

Turned it off cause it was so annoying (really I hate it).

4 letters vs 5 letters duh

Autocomplete duh.

Turned it off cause it was so annoying (really I hate it).

Copy/paste is still a thing.

True but I didn't care enough

Yeah but my brain saw 4 letters and thought whatever

Also you're right the reason was bs cause I couldn't think of anything creative

Nice try acting ignorant of the game's mechanics. You know the title where it clearly states "

Mystery Box

Mafia"?

[GuiltyLion]

Flames you town?

[Maruchan]

thats actually really shity. I would not consider a post restriction either a role or an ability, but rather, a restriction. Which is not at all how I perceived the box would operate.

Well that sucks. Now I'm hoping my box exchange doesn't turn out horribly. I thought I couldn't get anything worse than my current role, so it was all looking up, but now I see I was mistaken.