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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:16 pm

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In post 219, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:House...

If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.
Lawyering is a scum tactic, looking for loopholes to escape suspicion.

Doesn't work for me.

I said sell me scum (as in, results in a red flip) that doesn't leave me thinking YOU are bussing THEM if you want me drop my suspicion of you.

This crap about Sly won't fly.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:17 pm

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In post 222, Blade Dancer wrote:Contradiction!

If you weren't scared of me because you didn't know me, this implies you take meta into your argument. Yet, you deliberately remain null on McMenno without effort to sort him via his meta.
i don't have the time to meta read him at the moment, so sorry??

And how do you come to the conclusion that not being scared of you because I don't know you mean that I'm using meta? Not following that jump.
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In post 219, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:House...

If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.
Lawyering is a scum tactic, looking for loopholes to escape suspicion.

Doesn't work for me.

I said sell me scum (as in, results in a red flip) that doesn't leave me thinking YOU are bussing THEM if you want me drop my suspicion of you.

This crap about Sly won't fly.
Then I misread your question?

I think Sly is scum because he asked me leading questions that had the intention of making me look scummy, I don't see that as a town mindset.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:17 pm

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In post 225, House wrote:
In post 219, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:House...

If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.
Lawyering is a scum tactic, looking for loopholes to escape suspicion.

Doesn't work for me.

I said sell me scum (as in, results in a red flip) that doesn't leave me thinking YOU are bussing THEM if you want me drop my suspicion of you.

This crap about Sly won't fly.
Pretty much. Did you realize how he objected to my leading question but said he used the tactic himself.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:18 pm

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when did i admit to using a leading question
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:18 pm

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In post 224, Blade Dancer wrote:
In post 221, McMenno wrote:
In post 207, Blade Dancer wrote:
In post 204, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 202, Blade Dancer wrote:@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.
I don't see you as a threat.
Just like you didn't see House RVSing you as a threat either. We're you hoping for the ignore it and it goes away method of defense?

Oh and you can actually read McMenno. Pretty easy actually.
evidently you can't

or is this a reaction test? in which case what are you trying to accomplish here
Well, you're capable of deflection and fearing what I am up to.

Why haven't you tried to sort anyone?
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all I see is you starting with one assumption (I'm scum) and positioning everything to fit that worldview
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:19 pm

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shoot. i think i know who Blade Dancer is and it's going to make me incredibly biased even though i'm probably wrong.
there is a massive difference between not being scared of a player because you don't know their reputation and not having the drive/reason to meta dive a player with four posts to read them.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:19 pm

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yeah, I know your type

thinking you're sooooo clever for catching people on one little "slip" and tunneling them to death
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:20 pm

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In post 227, Blade Dancer wrote:
In post 225, House wrote:
In post 219, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:House...

If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.
Lawyering is a scum tactic, looking for loopholes to escape suspicion.

Doesn't work for me.

I said sell me scum (as in, results in a red flip) that doesn't leave me thinking YOU are bussing THEM if you want me drop my suspicion of you.

This crap about Sly won't fly.
Pretty much. Did you realize how he objected to my leading question but said he used the tactic himself.
I have no idea who you are talking about.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:21 pm

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In post 230, Not Chara wrote:shoot. i think i know who Blade Dancer is and it's going to make me incredibly biased even though i'm probably wrong.
then i think we both (think we) know who they are :/

if i'm right blade dancer might be scum but i can't discuss why just yet :?
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:22 pm

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In post 214, Blade Dancer wrote:@Pepto, There was plenty to say. You said I lacked real reasons for my positions. I show you my reasons. You don't respond to the substance or address the depth of my reads. I asked you why Giga was town as well.
Now it's my turn to refer to older posts. As I said in #209, among other posts, sly's bad push on giga in the first few pages implies he was trying to get giga killed, which wouldn't make sense for town!sly to do because it was based on nothing but really strange interpretations of the word "grapevine". It's just too much reaching for a town player to do. Thus, i believe sly is scum. Then, it follows that scum!sly would want to get town killed, as opposed to his own scumbuddy. The posibility of a anti-town 3rd party is there, but as of yet I have no evidence to support it, so the most likely result is that Giga is town. Hence my reads.

I didn't feel the need to react to your reasons as giga explained them, thus i reacted to that instead. Long story short i don't like his reaction, but not enough to divert away from my current theory.

since he has less vote than i though VOTE: slysly
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:22 pm

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NC how are you reading Blade right now? Try to fight your bias if you think it's impacting you.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:22 pm

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How long are you 6 or so going to argue within yourselves?
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:23 pm

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In post 231, McMenno wrote:yeah, I know your type

thinking you're sooooo clever for catching people on one little "slip" and tunneling them to death
Blade, could you just explain what this easy thing you're using to read McMenno is?

gigabyte: i don't want to start making alignment guesses based on a player's meta when we aren't even sure it's really them. that's too many assumptions in one.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:24 pm

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In post 237, Not Chara wrote:gigabyte: i don't want to start making alignment guesses based on a player's meta when we aren't even sure it's really them. that's too many assumptions in one.
Can you do it without meta? That's what I was asking for anyway, sorry.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:24 pm

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In post 210, Not Chara wrote: i was scumreading House at the time, i did everything to show that but say so explicitly. i was considering moving my vote but between Sly, gigabyte, and zakk, there were a lot of options and i was in the middle of engaging with them.
your fixation on this point about me not voting immediately is strange. it's the standard 'why aren't you voting your scumread' filler question i've seen thrown around in every game i've been in, but for some reason you won't let go of it.
what's your read on me?
Because usually, someone not moving a vote to a scumread indicates they're either paranoid of getting kickback for their vote (which usually means scum) or is just really forgetful (which could be either alignment) or is trying to get a strong read before voting (which is usually town)
I was trying to deduce which

A vague townlean for the way you've engaged me on this
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:25 pm

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In post 235, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:NC how are you reading Blade right now? Try to fight your bias if you think it's impacting you.
town, at the moment. town before i started wondering about their main, and so i don't think that read is biased. but not a strong read.
In post 236, Ankamius wrote:How long are you 6 or so going to argue within yourselves?
we're all online. what else do you do in mafia besides argue? c=
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:26 pm

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Cakez: i see. good answer.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:26 pm

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In post 240, Not Chara wrote:town, at the moment. town before i started wondering about their main, and so i don't think that read is biased. but not a strong read.
OK, I seem to be the opposite though. In that I'm townreading them as Blade Dancer alone but scumreading with my guess of their main.

Might be better to townread them then, I guess.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:30 pm

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In post 242, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 240, Not Chara wrote:town, at the moment. town before i started wondering about their main, and so i don't think that read is biased. but not a strong read.
OK, I seem to be the opposite though. In that I'm townreading them as Blade Dancer alone but scumreading with my guess of their main.

Might be better to townread them then, I guess.
well, yes. don't scumread someone on a guess.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:36 pm

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In post 237, Not Chara wrote:
In post 231, McMenno wrote:yeah, I know your type

thinking you're sooooo clever for catching people on one little "slip" and tunneling them to death
Blade, could you just explain what this easy thing you're using to read McMenno is?

gigabyte: i don't want to start making alignment guesses based on a player's meta when we aren't even sure it's really them. that's too many assumptions in one.
His posts.
RVSing based on always scum.
Is my read on him serious?
Sneak vote onto Pepto.
What am I up to?

That's his entire ISO. He's reading but only interested in lurking/defense.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:36 pm

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Random note: I'm so glad I found Slaughter: Stick It To Ya on Spotify.

Haven't heard this album since high school. Good times.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:38 pm

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In post 236, Ankamius wrote:How long are you 6 or so going to argue within yourselves?
You got thoughts in there?
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:38 pm

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In post 244, Blade Dancer wrote:
In post 237, Not Chara wrote:
In post 231, McMenno wrote:yeah, I know your type

thinking you're sooooo clever for catching people on one little "slip" and tunneling them to death
Blade, could you just explain what this easy thing you're using to read McMenno is?

gigabyte: i don't want to start making alignment guesses based on a player's meta when we aren't even sure it's really them. that's too many assumptions in one.
His posts.
RVSing based on always scum.
Is my read on him serious?
Sneak vote onto Pepto.
What am I up to?

That's his entire ISO. He's reading but only interested in lurking/defense.
so should my rvs be something like "oh you have cake in your name... I don't like cake *vote", trying to improve my scumgame here
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:41 pm

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sorry, Blade. but i'm really not convinced. the Cakez vote was null, and the rest is McMenno. when you said he was 'easy to read', he only had the three posts, so why include the later ones in your explanation? (i could be wrong, he could have had four.. don't remember.)
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:42 pm

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In post 246, Blade Dancer wrote:
In post 236, Ankamius wrote:How long are you 6 or so going to argue within yourselves?
You got thoughts in there?
i already asked this. :>
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