Open 655: Fire and Ice Mafia OVER

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VC 1.9

Charloux

L-4

(3) malpascp, Blix900, Creature
malpascp

L-4

(3) Tenshii, MariaR, Firebringer
Tenshii

L-5

(2) Io, Drone
Blix900

L-6

(1) Dunnstral
Io

L-6

(1) Lowell
Kop

L-6

(1) Expedience
Creature

L-7

(0)
Drone

L-7

(0)
Dunnstral

L-7

(0)
Expedience

L-7

(0)
Firebringer

L-7

(0)
Lowell

L-7

(0)
MariaR

L-7

(0)

No Lynch

L-7

(0)

Not Voting (2) Charloux, Kop

With 13 alive, it requires seven (7) votes to achieve a lynch!

V/LA: N/A

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-10-16 11:00:00)

[Creature]

Nothing's really happening.

[Creature]

It's funny because if scum is being wagoned, only one can save them besides themselves.

[Io]

It's funny because if scum is being wagoned, only one can save them besides themselves.

I think you just describe the majority of games. on day 2 or 3.

[Expedience]

Expedience is acting way different from when I saw him as town.

I can tell this is going to be a game where nobody votes my scumreads though (Blix, Kop)

You played with me once, and you were scum then too, so I don't believe you are qualified to make this judgement.

[Firebringer]

It's funny because if scum is being wagoned, only one can save them besides themselves.

I will stop any scum from being lynched.

For I am the savior that all scum love. The Black Knight!
Get it?

Spoiler: Explanation to ruin not joke

Because "White Knighting" is defending town!
Get it?

[Expedience]

malpascp L-4 (3) Tenshii, MariaR, Firebringer

What a substandard, poor, inferior, second-rate, second-class, unsatisfactory, inadequate, unacceptable, not up to scratch, not up to par, deficient, imperfect, defective, faulty, shoddy, amateurish, careless, and negligent wagon

[Firebringer]

malpascp L-4 (3) Tenshii, MariaR, Firebringer

What a substandard, poor, inferior, second-rate, second-class, unsatisfactory, inadequate, unacceptable, not up to scratch, not up to par, deficient, imperfect, defective, faulty, shoddy, amateurish, careless, and negligent wagon

Well, not all wagons are equal.

[Tenshii]

I assume you think Charloux is town?

Lean

Voting for someone you think is newbtown

There's nothing that implies Char thinks he's newbTOWN. I can only see newb.

It's the first time I see someone go "Dude I think you're scum so you should try getting reads I like so I don't think you're scum anymore, or else I'm going to get you lynched. And it's weird and seems scummy to me

I don't see how you can interpret it like this at all.

He didn't imply it though. Also you're basically saying scumslips don't exist because scum would "totally" never scumslip. "Totally" makes sense

Okay latter point is fair. And as far as the implying point goes. You're stating that he slipped there in the sense that Char finds Hark helpful in the sense for an easy mislynch. I don't understand how Char can form that basis off of what has happened so far as of that post.

Well he HAS to make a case on someone, someday, right? Just saying he's going out of his way to make a case that doesn't really make sense, and might be buddying my scummiest read.
Anyway I'd be mad if this was to be overlooked YET AGAIN.

From 1 being the scummiest player on the playerlist, to 13 being the towniest, where would you rank me as of Post 456? How about right now as you reply to me?

Nothing's really happening.

This is a lie?

[Expedience]

I know, and it's not okay.

The scum have enough on their hands trying to support the inferior wagons. By taking the vow of a Black Knight, you have disrupted the delicate balance of this game. This is only the beginning of the havoc your decision will incite, you will regret this with your dying breath.

pedit: go away

[Firebringer]

So why should I join your wagon?

[Firebringer]

Technically not a wagon with just one person on it.
I have Kop as null too, and I don't like how he didn't even acknowledge the wagon on him.

[Tenshii]

Do you have non-null reads?

[Firebringer]

Do you have non-null reads?

Yes, I do actually.

[Firebringer]

Town:
Creature, Blit, Io, and Maria

[Expedience]

UNVOTE: Io

I do agree that his (Charloux) ISO, doesn't really look appealing.

charloux thinks im a town VI, yet at the same time he nullscumreads me.

vote charloux dogs.

Whilst scum sometimes use VI as scapegoats, I don't think it's the case here.

VOTE: Io

Wall posts ahhhh, scum tend to use wall posts a lot more to gain from the game, to try make out they are town.

UNVOTE: Io

I do agree that his (Charloux) ISO, doesn't really look appealing.

I don't really understand his train of thought here, he starts off implying that charloux is scummy, but then votes Io right after someone else votes charloux

He then unvotes Io saying Charloux's iso doesn't look appealing (Which shouldn't be related to his unvote)

Also his reasoning for voting Io was that scum tend to use wall posts more. I don't think this is even true but if anyone wants to back that up that would be nice
Though even if you say "scum use wall posts more" you're not taking into account the individual player. Maybe they wall post every game.

I'm not taking individuality into any account of the scum use wall posts more argument. All I'm saying is, scum can often use wall posts to try make out there town, because town tend to think scum wouldn't go to long lengths to try make out there actually doing something. I've used wall posts before trying to pick apart arguments to make out that I'm town trying to work out the game. It's all down to appeal more than anything.

Whilst Charloux ISO isn't very appealing, I didn't really think about contributing to the wagon, because it seemed there was lack of resistance to it, and it seemed easy. It would have been easy to jump on the bandwagon, but I'd rather jump on it for my own reasons, and not what everybody else is force feeding me.

I'm comfortable with a Kop vote, too eager to join in and make a good impression on everyone.

VOTE: Vote Kop

VOTE: Charloux

That seems way too desperate in an attempt to manipulate.

Why the change? Why so easily?

(sorry for bbcancer)

Kop is afraid of joining the wagon brcause he sees it as "easy", a perspective town!Kop wouldn't have since it implies he sees Charloux as town, 406 is basically a scumclaim "id rather jump on it for my own reasons"

422 contains two disgistingly loaded questions obviously trying to frame a capricious townie

[Tenshii]

Am I tripping or is Exp's quote boxes in the post above blank?

(sorry for bbcancer)

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422 contains two disgistingly loaded questions obviously trying to frame a capricious townie

How is this loaded?

[Expedience]

it's size=1, i said sorry ;-,

"why the change?" -> "gimme a reason why you moved wagons other than the really obvious one that you thought charloux's post was scummy" -> "i'm scum"

"why so easily?" -> "why are you acting scummy?" -> "i'm scum"

[MariaR]

I need to find the motivation to play this game I feel just like I'm coasting along even if I have a few reads

(Fire Creature town and Bliz / person i'm voting scum)

[Expedience]

person i'm voting scum

[Firebringer]

Maria take some motivationade. It comes in three unique flavors.
Kiwi Blast, Orange Sherbert, and Lemon Lime

[Charloux]

malpascp L-4 (3) Tenshii, MariaR, Firebringer

What a substandard, poor, inferior, second-rate, second-class, unsatisfactory, inadequate, unacceptable, not up to scratch, not up to par, deficient, imperfect, defective, faulty, shoddy, amateurish, careless, and negligent wagon

I roughly feel the same about my wagon. But somebody has to be lynched today even if we don't know who scum is.

[Tenshii]

Town:
Creature, Blit, Io, and Maria

Elaborate?

"why the change?" -> "gimme a reason why you moved wagons other than the really obvious one that you thought charloux's post was scummy" -> "i'm scum"

"why so easily?" -> "why are you acting scummy?" -> "i'm scum"

So then it's not loaded because he could just answer with "I thought his post was scummy?"

[Dunnstral]

Expedience is acting way different from when I saw him as town.

I can tell this is going to be a game where nobody votes my scumreads though (Blix, Kop)

You played with me once, and you were scum then too, so I don't believe you are qualified to make this judgement.

I don't remember playing with you before; I modded a game you were in

[Drone]

malpascp L-4 (3) Tenshii, MariaR, Firebringer

What a substandard, poor, inferior, second-rate, second-class, unsatisfactory, inadequate, unacceptable, not up to scratch, not up to par, deficient, imperfect, defective, faulty, shoddy, amateurish, careless, and negligent wagon

I roughly feel the same about my wagon. But somebody has to be lynched today even if we don't know who scum is.

So you wanna be lynched?