Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Nahdia]

More plausible, still wrong.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Magna, I think you're right on Nahdia but wrong on the partner.

I think Nahdia wants the Pepto wagon alive but doesn't want to be on it.

McMenno meanwhile is her buddy she doesn't want to bus.

What's your reasoning on McMenno again? All I recall was your flailing point which wasn't selling me at all.

[Nahdia]

Were I partners with McMenno I could just sheep his read outright. I mean I realize I'm playing the "what i would do as scum" game here and that's not exactly reliable but you're both assuming I've put myself in a position where I'll have to buss one of my partners eventually. Since, presumably, if I succeed at getting the one who is town lynched, I'd have to pivot onto scumreading the other which would be my partner if I'm scum.

[zakk]

Honestly I really don't mind super active day ones because they usually allow a lot of townies to talk with each other, gel with each other, and react to a lot of things without having any agenda based on flips yet, and there's no guesswork involved in knowing who is going to die and who is not going to die yet. Lots of mutual town reads get formed, and even if there aren't large town blocks, they ones are very important and quite integral in strong, town controlled games.

Bolded the above for emphasis.

In my (considerable, 100+ games) experience, it's day two and day three where stuff like "spamming" begins to bog down the flow of the game and to be measurably detrimental to town's success.

So yea, I hope House dies before day three LOL, otherwise this game is going to be bloated beyond recognition *grimace*

Yeah this is scum given we specifically talked about bloating Day 1 as partners in Sir Cakez game ....

But I'm town, so no.

There's a difference between "bloating" and "forging mutual town reads"

And often times, it can be cast as the same thing by codgery curmudgeony players like yourself.

Bitch don't kill my vibe

[Creature]

No meta argument on SirCakez? Okay

[Nahdia]

Believe it or not I actually do give heavy consideration to my overall positioning when I play as scum. This game though I'm just townhunting and setting up scumpools because I'm a member of the glorious uninformed majority.

Anyway changing the subject zakk remember that post you made about Cakez always discrediting early townreads on you when he's scum? Have you ever played with him when he's town? Has he done it then?

[zakk]

unanimous town-read players like {blade dancer, house, gamma, magna, andrius, SlySly, me (hi!) }

Fucking what lol

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

magna, andrius, gamma, blade dancer, and really.....

ANY

of those players being unanimously town read, is like. LOL

[MagnaofIllusion]

Were I partners with McMenno I could just sheep his read outright. I mean I realize I'm playing the "what i would do as scum" game here and that's not exactly reliable but you're both assuming I've put myself in a position where I'll have to buss one of my partners eventually. Since, presumably, if I succeed at getting the one who is town lynched, I'd have to pivot onto scumreading the other which would be my partner if I'm scum.

It's funny you are trying to sell "Well, I would have to bus eventually" when we know fully well that's not how Mafia has to work ...

Look exhibit A - GreyIce's recent Mini Normal where I hard distanced from karnos Day 1, Mathblade Days 2 and 3 and blithely went from Town mislynch to Town mislynch all the while.

Pretending that you, after successfully managing to get your mislynch, couldn't find a way to move to another suspect is comical Nhadia.

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: creature
tfw weird does equal scummy

This is this slots only post

Not really a fan of going on a five-day VLA after only making this post

went on V/LA cause hurricane fam

but I should really get active in this game before it spirals out of control :/

R u town?

U better let me kno b4 I have my mason buddy lynch you for being scummy

ye

[Creature]

I think I should start writing a list of players who ignores me when I talk about SirCakez.

[zakk]

zakk remember that post you made about Cakez always discrediting early townreads on you when he's scum? Have you ever played with him when he's town? Has he done it then?

he's done it as both

it looked fake when he did it as scum which is why i picked up on it super hardcore (kuribo in wonderland)

he literally does it every game we are in together though *grimace*



i think.... i think i have won ALL those games (as town) though, so i'm fine w/it. it's just annoying lel

anyway. i don't think cakez is really scummy this game. i could be wrong though obv. maybe he's turned over a new leaf and he's better at scum now

what can i say, he DID learn from the best (i think, no joke, i am one of the best scum players this site has ever seen)

[Creature]

Who do you want to wagon out of the uncrossed names?

[zakk]

I think I should start writing a list of players who ignores me when I talk about SirCakez.

i just talked about cakez

can i be on the list anyway tho? they probably get something cool like cake right

[Creature]

or bullet/rope

[Gamma Emerald]

aahahha

[MagnaofIllusion]

unanimous town-read players like {blade dancer, house, gamma, magna, andrius, SlySly, me (hi!) }

Fucking what lol

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

magna, andrius, gamma, blade dancer, and really.....

ANY

of those players being unanimously town read, is like. LOL

In this thread we see that zakk's reading skills are subpar (Maxous was listing the people who were not Townreading Nhadia not those universally Townread) and see the classic scum Zakk move of trying to undermine a whole players by pretending it is funny that they aren't being Townread.

True Story

[Nahdia]

Magna, I see your point. How about this; I promise you if we lynch one of those two and they flip scum, I'll start pushing on the other. I pinkie promise, even. That's how you know I'm like, super for real, friendbro.

zakk remember that post you made about Cakez always discrediting early townreads on you when he's scum? Have you ever played with him when he's town? Has he done it then?

he's done it as both

it looked fake when he did it as scum which is why i picked up on it super hardcore (kuribo in wonderland)

he literally does it every game we are in together though *grimace*



i think.... i think i have won ALL those games (as town) though, so i'm fine w/it. it's just annoying lel

anyway. i don't think cakez is really scummy this game. i could be wrong though obv. maybe he's turned over a new leaf and he's better at scum now

what can i say, he DID learn from the best (i think, no joke, i am one of the best scum players this site has ever seen)

Alright, thanks.

I'm having a little scene play out in my head where zakk and SirCakez are in the scumthread discussing strategy and then zakk says "oh make sure you tell people not to townread me because im good. you always do that. then i'll call you out to distance us!" If that actually happened I want a medal or something.

aahahha

Hey man I'm actually making an effort here to cut down on my spam cause I Magna is right, it does make the game harder to read. I'm like, turning over a new leaf or whatever. I know I've already done a bad job of it this game but I'm really trying. What say you try with me? What was the point of this post. Respond in a single post; not over the course of multiple. Think before you press "Submit" to make sure there's not something else you wanna say.

[McMenno]

No meta argument on SirCakez? Okay

what do you mean here creature

[Gamma Emerald]

@Nahdia: I was reacting to Creature's post.

[Nahdia]

unanimous town-read players like {blade dancer, house, gamma, magna, andrius, SlySly, me (hi!) }

Fucking what lol

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

magna, andrius, gamma, blade dancer, and really.....

ANY

of those players being unanimously town read, is like. LOL

In this thread we see that zakk's reading skills are subpar (Maxous was listing the people who were not Townreading Nhadia not those universally Townread) and see the classic scum Zakk move of trying to undermine a whole players by pretending it is funny that they aren't being Townread.

True Story

He was actually making a compound list of players who fit the bill for both. So he was saying they're unanimously townread. Which continues to be kind of humorous because of how wrong it is. But I townlead him for the bravado.

@Nahdia: I was reacting to Creature's post.

Ok, and you didn't have anything else on the gamestate you want to say so your post wouldn't seem like useless filler? C'mon man, let's step it up.

[Creature]

Wanted to see if someone could rise a valid meta argument on SirCakez as I don't exactly know his meta and he's getting away as scum very often.

[Creature]

Weird, because all games where SirCakez was scum, there was always someone saying SirCakez does that as either alignment.

[zakk]

Finally it came:

02 SirCakez -- probtown

04 Maxous
06 PeregrineV
10 Nosferatu

12 Accountant -- probtown
16 McMenno -- probtown

17 SnarkySnowman

20 Leonshade -- probtown

21 Andrius
22 massive

here i've added my own struck out names now

that puts us down to:

04 Maxous
06 PeregrineV
10 Nosferatu
17 SnarkySnowman
21 Andrius
22 massive

sooooo i'd say definitely Andrius out of those

Maxous I have a slight town lean on, but i can't remember for what, so it's probably best to say null
PeregrineV is a non-entity so i need to read him
Nosferatu is becoming an entity so we'll see where that goes
SnarkyWho? -- non-entity
massive is also a 2-post wonder

I don't want to lynch any of these "lurkers" so to speak, but Andrius has definitely given off that "hey look guys i'm here and have opinions but i'll have more later! ... and also i'm using phrases like "throwing swords" over and over, so that i'll seem cool! ... and also i'm really important and well-connected so you should like me like everyone else already does" vibe... which is SCUUUUUUUMMMMMMYYYYYYY as fuck.

so yea i want him dead hella bad

i would also like to see all of the above non-crossed out list post more.

[zakk]

Weird, because all games where SirCakez was scum, there was always someone saying SirCakez does that as either alignment.

isn't that a hallmark of all good scum players though? faking their town meta?

[zakk]

hint: it is