Mini 1840: Watch Dogs Blitz [Game Over]

Firebringer · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:15 pm

Mathblade has sent a message to House.
Dunnstral has sent a message to Infinity 324

House · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:16 pm

Math is town, yay.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:21 pm

How are you sure?

House · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:25 pm

In post 377, Gamma Emerald wrote:How are you sure?

I've been townreading her for a bit, she just solidified it.

House · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:44 pm

In post 378, House wrote:
In post 377, Gamma Emerald wrote:How are you sure?
I've been townreading
her
them for a bit
she
they just solidified it.

EBWOP

Expedience · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:44 pm

In post 48, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 47, lane0168 wrote:
In post 45, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 44, lane0168 wrote:
In post 38, MathBlade wrote:Whelp. Looks like Nahdia's right this time.

Gamma or Infinity are obv scum. Gamma Emerald IMHO slipped with regardless of alignment and how that question was asked.

Gotta go to work.
Gamma or infinity are obvscum? Which one is it? Don't you think if they were obvscum, you'd know which one it is? You just saying you want gamma lynched today, and if town than infinity tomorrow?
OH HOLY SHIT
Did not get that subtext bro.
... What?
The way you explained it made it visible that he may be setting up mislynches.

This sounds really town.

I don't like 47 at all

Expedience · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:44 pm

*44, not 47

House · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:47 pm

Shit Expedience, are you actually scum here?

Your ISO is underwhelming.

Expedience · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:51 pm

I've been sick and sleeping for most of today, and the game just started.

Not sure what you expected.

House · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:52 pm

Feel better soon, man. Will give you some breathing room because I don't want to catch whatever you have.

Expedience · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:17 pm

In post 128, Infinity 324 wrote:I like this better for now, I think he's trying to townread me early since it worked in the game he referenced.

In post 193, Infinity 324 wrote:He's trying to make something out of nothing, pretending to be doing something when really he's pushing on something NAI

Reaching

I think Creature could be scum though.

Expedience · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:24 pm

In post 212, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 205, lane0168 wrote:
In post 202, Infinity 324 wrote:How would saying "hydras are the devil" gain trust from anyone
How can you say I'm just trying to pretend like I'm doing something. What do you think SlySly was doing by sending the message? Just to see if it worked? Do you think there was a chance firebringer put in a game mechanic that wasn't there? That he lied to us about the setup?
No, but I can see why someone would feel like using the mechanic just to use it and try it out.

All I'm saying is that you seemed to push the point more than necessary, and it doesn't feel like something a townie should be suspicious.

Do you think my push on you is scummy? Are you sure there's nothing else more alignment indicative to comment on?

Considering that he's acknowledged the townslip, I think he should've dropped this by now. The sorting questions at the end don't achieve anything and seem fake.

lane is obviously town even if he didn't townslip, anyway.

Expedience · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:41 pm

In the early game I didn't like Creature's conversation with Gamma Emerald.

Some of my suspicion was allayed when I read further (since at the start I was like "wtf hes trying to convince someone who hes calling scum that he isnt trying to mislynch him"), since he clarified that he wasn't serious about the initial vote.

But it still feels bad to me, but I can't explain why. What he was saying was muted and irrelevant, he was looking for things to pick at.

I liked Dunnstral's entrance.

Expedience · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:43 pm

In post 222, Grapevine wrote:
In post 80, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 78, Creature wrote:Gamma, two players voting you doesn't mean one of them must be scum.
It's the way the wagon formed.

In post 81, Creature wrote:"It's not the wording I want, must be scum"
I don't think I've ever seen creature push on someone like this and he could be scum.

It's a cold shoulder, it's not trying to see things from gamma's side.

Like, I disagree with gamma that early on in RVS "the way" wagons form is very indicative of anything other than being driven by people not concerned with appearances. Which can be an alignment tell for some. But what he's saying is a whole lot more nuanced than "it's not the wording i want"

Yes, actually this is partly what I mean.

Expedience · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:12 pm

In post 279, Creature wrote:This is definitely not how Expedience plays as town lol

I can't believe you have me as your strongest scumread when I hardly even posted.

Expedience · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:32 pm

In post 330, MathBlade wrote:It is the Gamma Infinity exchange IMHO that is telling.

I suggest a three person team and then all that shit happens.

I think there is a coincidence.

FYI House I replied just waiting on Firebringer

Ridiculous preflip reminds me of Gistou, overconfidence is null

Town: lane, Gamma Emerald, Dunnstral
Slight town: House, SlySly, Grapevine
Null: Tatsuya Kaname, GuiltyLion, Stargazers
Slight scum: Mathblade
Scum: Creature, Infinity 324 (but I don't really think they are both scum together, so one of these is probably wrong)

SlySly read is tentative and could change after he posts more. I disagree with just about everything he said but it sounds a bit town.

Expedience · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:33 pm

Is it the Varsoon or grapes head of Grapevine that's posted so far?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:37 pm

In post 386, Expedience wrote:
In post 212, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 205, lane0168 wrote:
In post 202, Infinity 324 wrote:How would saying "hydras are the devil" gain trust from anyone
How can you say I'm just trying to pretend like I'm doing something. What do you think SlySly was doing by sending the message? Just to see if it worked? Do you think there was a chance firebringer put in a game mechanic that wasn't there? That he lied to us about the setup?
No, but I can see why someone would feel like using the mechanic just to use it and try it out.

All I'm saying is that you seemed to push the point more than necessary, and it doesn't feel like something a townie should be suspicious.

Do you think my push on you is scummy? Are you sure there's nothing else more alignment indicative to comment on?
Considering that he's acknowledged the townslip, I think he should've dropped this by now. The sorting questions at the end don't achieve anything and seem fake.

lane is obviously town even if he didn't townslip, anyway.

At this point, lane was the one who had the problem with me pushing on him, so I might not have continued this line of questioning if not for him.

My suspicions of lane were not and still are not allayed, however. Even if he is town, those questions serve to potentially redirect him in a more productive direction.

In post 388, Expedience wrote:
In post 222, Grapevine wrote:
In post 80, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 78, Creature wrote:Gamma, two players voting you doesn't mean one of them must be scum.
It's the way the wagon formed.

In post 81, Creature wrote:"It's not the wording I want, must be scum"
I don't think I've ever seen creature push on someone like this and he could be scum.

It's a cold shoulder, it's not trying to see things from gamma's side.

Like, I disagree with gamma that early on in RVS "the way" wagons form is very indicative of anything other than being driven by people not concerned with appearances. Which can be an alignment tell for some. But what he's saying is a whole lot more nuanced than "it's not the wording i want"
Yes, actually this is partly what I mean.

Creature was responding to lane's push on him there, I think

Grapevine · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:45 pm

Infinity, I'm voting you because you asked gamma a pretty terrible question and I'm not sure who you actually think is scum right now. Let's try and correct one of these things.

Also I'm not sure if you missed my post where I told you massclaiming to "obvtown" with messages may not be the best idea, because you continue to push it in a post later on the same page.

Please explain why that's the first thing you thought of when reading the setup and how doing that actually helps town.

Grapevine · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:46 pm

Actually expedience I was wrong in that post you quoted; creatures reply there was meant for a different post. Now that I'm not skimming 1 hour before I've gotta be out the door I don't think creature's early push on gamma was all that bad.

What did you like about dunn's entrance?

Grapevine · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:50 pm

In post 391, Expedience wrote:Is it the Varsoon or grapes head of Grapevine that's posted so far?

It's been grapes so far if you really can't tell. Varsoon has been busy as shit.

Firebringer · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:53 pm

House has sent a message to Mathblade.
Infinity 324 has sent a message to Dunnstral.
Grapevine has sent a message to Dunnstral.

Grapevine · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:56 pm

House, how is this a townslip?

In post 188, lane0168 wrote:Because I'm trying to figure out why he did it. It's a game mechanic from the mod. Of course it's going to work. It's not some foreign mechanic. And now there's 4 people that know he's telling the truth about this. Why would he be lying about it? Like he's trying to gain people's trust for some reason. Or he sent different messages, one to his partner. Disguised as a test. And he now said what was sent. So if he did send a message, they can verify it. I just am trying to figure out the intentions.

Why couldn't scum send a message to a partner disguised as a test and also have daychat?

Expedience · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:58 pm

In post 392, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 386, Expedience wrote:
In post 212, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 205, lane0168 wrote:
In post 202, Infinity 324 wrote:How would saying "hydras are the devil" gain trust from anyone
How can you say I'm just trying to pretend like I'm doing something. What do you think SlySly was doing by sending the message? Just to see if it worked? Do you think there was a chance firebringer put in a game mechanic that wasn't there? That he lied to us about the setup?
No, but I can see why someone would feel like using the mechanic just to use it and try it out.

All I'm saying is that you seemed to push the point more than necessary, and it doesn't feel like something a townie should be suspicious.

Do you think my push on you is scummy? Are you sure there's nothing else more alignment indicative to comment on?
Considering that he's acknowledged the townslip, I think he should've dropped this by now. The sorting questions at the end don't achieve anything and seem fake.

lane is obviously town even if he didn't townslip, anyway.
At this point, lane was the one who had the problem with me pushing on him, so I might not have continued this line of questioning if not for him.

My suspicions of lane were not and still are not allayed, however. Even if he is town, those questions serve to potentially redirect him in a more productive direction.

It's like you admitted that it was valid in the moment and then you keep pushing him to save face or something. It's a near explicit thing, if you acknowledge the townslip is "pretty genuine" then the chance that lane could be scum becomes really small suddenly. Your posts don't seem to reflect that accurately.

Even if he is town, those questions serve to potentially redirect him in a more productive direction.

"you could try interpret my posts in a different way if you want although thats not how i intended it"

In post 388, Expedience wrote:
In post 222, Grapevine wrote:
In post 80, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 78, Creature wrote:Gamma, two players voting you doesn't mean one of them must be scum.
It's the way the wagon formed.

In post 81, Creature wrote:"It's not the wording I want, must be scum"
I don't think I've ever seen creature push on someone like this and he could be scum.

It's a cold shoulder, it's not trying to see things from gamma's side.

Like, I disagree with gamma that early on in RVS "the way" wagons form is very indicative of anything other than being driven by people not concerned with appearances. Which can be an alignment tell for some. But what he's saying is a whole lot more nuanced than "it's not the wording i want"
Yes, actually this is partly what I mean.
Creature was responding to lane's push on him there, I think

Okay, nvm it's like 20 posts earlier.

House · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:00 pm

In post 397, Grapevine wrote:House, how is this a townslip?
In post 188, lane0168 wrote:Because I'm trying to figure out why he did it. It's a game mechanic from the mod. Of course it's going to work. It's not some foreign mechanic. And now there's 4 people that know he's telling the truth about this. Why would he be lying about it? Like he's trying to gain people's trust for some reason. Or he sent different messages, one to his partner. Disguised as a test. And he now said what was sent. So if he did send a message, they can verify it. I just am trying to figure out the intentions.
Why couldn't scum send a message to a partner disguised as a test and also have daychat?

The basis of the question itself is laughable.

Why would scum with day chat feel the need to mask their communication or even use that method to communicate?

Lane is acting like scum are using the messaging system to communicate during the day as if they don't already have a private method to do so.