Mini 1840: Watch Dogs Blitz [Game Over]

Firebringer · Post Post #425 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:00 am

Day 1 Vote Count 1.09

Creature (L-4): lane0168, Infinity324, StarGazers,
Lane0168 (L-5): Tatsuya Kagame, SlySly,
Dunnstral (L-6): Gamma Emerald,
StarGazers (L-6): Creature,
Infinity 324 (L-5): Grapevine, Expedience,
House (L-5): Dunnstral, GuiltyLion,

Not Voting (2): House, Mathblade,

With 13 Alive it Takes 7 To Lynch

Searching for replacement for Tatsuya Kagame

Day Ends (expired on 2016-10-17 08:00:00)

Firebringer · Post Post #426 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:05 am

House has sent a message to GuiltyLion.

Grapevine · Post Post #427 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:08 am

I've just caught up.
I need to discuss things with my other head.
I am 100% behind our vote, though.
That's right, you heard it from the GrapeVine.

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House · Post Post #428 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:47 am

Firebringer is gonna hate me when he logs in next.

Firebringer · Post Post #429 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:18 am

House has sent a message to SlySly
House has sent a message to Infinity 324
House has sent a message to Gamma Emerald
House has sent a message to Tatsuya Kagame
House has sent a message to Dunnstral
House has sent a message to lane0168
House has sent a message to Creature
House has sent a message to GuiltyLion
House has sent a message to Stargazers
House has sent a message to Expedience
House has sent a message to Grapevine
House has sent a message to Mathblade

Grapevine · Post Post #430 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:18 am

Not nearly as much as they'll hate me.
And, yes, House, I do see what you do to mods that put in easily abusable mechanics. We thought of a similar thing at the same time. It's good to know we might be on the same page here, one way or another.
Every player in the game is about to receive a text with special instructions.
Please follow those instructions as best you can.

Grapevine · Post Post #431 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:21 am

House, did you attempt to text yourself?
Is such a thing possible?

Grapevine · Post Post #432 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:23 am

There's two reasons I can think for the text to have to go through Firebringer.

1. Texts can be manipulated in some way, shape, or form--either some people can't receive them, or others can view them in some way, or something.
or
2. Firebringer was too shortsighted to realize giving everyone a PT with everyone else for texting would have the ideal way to do the same thing.

Grapevine · Post Post #433 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:24 am

Either way, it's humorous to think of Firebringer having to deal with the hassle of juggling hundreds of PMs.

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Grapevine · Post Post #434 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:26 am

ESPECIALLY so if there's mechanics that directly interact with Texts.
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Infinity 324 · Post Post #435 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:27 am

Actually you have a good point there. I'm guessing there's some way to manipulate or gain access to messages.

Why do you think I'm scum?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #436 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:28 am

I'm gonna have to retread the thread, too many townreads and not enough scumreads this early. Though dunnstral being scum could be part of the explanation for that since he's a wildcard for me

Grapevine · Post Post #437 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:31 am

Your early-game positioning was too focused on town-posturing,
You've backed wagons on players that I have solid townreads on,
You're overdefensive and flighty at times.
Gut.

That sort of stuff.

P-EDIT:
Dunn's town.

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Grapevine · Post Post #438 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:33 am

See, that sort of post rings to me as "Oh, nuts, I need more mislynches, I'm so silly and town, gonna give myself space to fabricate some new scumreads after the fact."

You've been organically a part of this game since page 1. I would imagine you'd have more entrenched/informed/confident reads 18 deep and wouldn't need to do a re-read to produce more scumreads.
If anything, just double down on the scumreads you're positive on.

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Infinity 324 · Post Post #439 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:35 am

Explain the first point please? Kind of like what house was pointing out?

I've played with dunn quite a it and imo his town and scum games are nearly indistinguishable. But why do you think he's town here?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #440 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:35 am

In post 438, Grapevine wrote:See, that sort of post rings to me as "Oh, nuts, I need more mislynches, I'm so silly and town, gonna give myself space to fabricate some new scumreads after the fact."

You've been organically a part of this game since page 1. I would imagine you'd have more entrenched/informed/confident reads 18 deep and wouldn't need to do a re-read to produce more scumreads.
If anything, just double down on the scumreads you're positive on.

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Is it unreasonable for me not to have developed solid scumreads this far into the game?

This is an issue I often have and often get called out for, especially on d1.

Firebringer · Post Post #441 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:36 am

Grapevine has sent a message to SlySly
Grapevine has sent a message to Infinity 324
Grapevine has sent a message to Gamma Emerald
Grapevine has sent a message to Tatsuya Kagame
Grapevine has sent a message to Dunnstral
Grapevine has sent a message to lane0168
Grapevine has sent a message to Creature
Grapevine has sent a message to GuiltyLion
Grapevine has sent a message to Stargazers
Grapevine has sent a message to Expedience
Grapevine has sent a message to House
Grapevine has sent a message to Mathblade

Firebringer · Post Post #442 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:39 am

In post 1, Firebringer wrote:I reserve the right to change the rules or modkill/force-replace players as I see fit.

Rule change is in effect thanks to some meddling.

Attempts to blatantly abuse the message system will revoke your access to sending messages for the day/night.

Nice work guys.

House · Post Post #443 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:39 am

In post 431, Grapevine wrote:House, did you attempt to text yourself?
Is such a thing possible?

I did, and it was even a funny text. But Fire has no sense of humor.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #444 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:40 am

In post 442, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1, Firebringer wrote:I reserve the right to change the rules or modkill/force-replace players as I see fit.

Rule change is in effect thanks to some meddling.

Attempts to blatantly abuse the message system will revoke your access to sending messages for the day/night.

Nice work guys.

Can you define "abusing the message system"?

House · Post Post #445 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:43 am

In post 444, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 442, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1, Firebringer wrote:I reserve the right to change the rules or modkill/force-replace players as I see fit.

Rule change is in effect thanks to some meddling.

Attempts to blatantly abuse the message system will revoke your access to sending messages for the day/night.

Nice work guys.

Can you define "abusing the message system"?

Oh Lord, rules lawyering?

Grapevine · Post Post #446 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:44 am

Use of the the pronoun 'we', aligning with town awkwardly within the space of discussing universal townreads, voting people while saying that's what 'scum would do' to justify a vote there, that sort of thing. I reads to me as awkward posturing more than organic play.

I've only played with Dunnstral recently, but I am fairly confident of my townread there. Parts of play here remind me of Dunnstral-town that I've seen elsewhere. There's a few tells, including degree of flippancy, that align with what I believe to indicate Dunnstral as town. Also, Dunnstral's votes follow a progression that makes sense to me from a town PoV.

P-EDIT:
I, too, would like to know what 'abusing' the system is. I'm definitely trying to use it to play the game at hand.
Also-also, people should follow the guidelines I sent them via text.

@Infinity: Wagons rose and fell. You were central to several moments that were polarizing so far. There's more than enough content for you to make an informed set of reads. I'm not saying it has to be anywhere near correct or absolute, but you should definitely have a sense of how you feel about many of the players you have interacted with so far.

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Grapevine · Post Post #447 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:45 am

I think Firebringer is just chuffed that I thought of the way better, hassle-free approach of just making a bunch of PTs.

It's okay to be jelly, FB.

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Firebringer · Post Post #448 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:47 am

In post 444, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 442, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1, Firebringer wrote:I reserve the right to change the rules or modkill/force-replace players as I see fit.

Rule change is in effect thanks to some meddling.

Attempts to blatantly abuse the message system will revoke your access to sending messages for the day/night.

Nice work guys.

Can you define "abusing the message system"?

Spamming messages with little to no content with the purpose of just flooding me with messages.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #449 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:48 am

Well massclaiming to a one person could be defined as abusing the system...it's very vague wording

PEdit: I do have a handful of reads. I just have no confident scumreads.

Also, have you played with scum!dunn? He is very flippant there as well and generally has the same time and in his town games.

Are you making your case on me purposefully difficult to respond to, or what?