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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:10 pm

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Someone explain the panther hype.

Got about a day left here.
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:10 pm

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quoted the slip for the iso
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:13 pm

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People are picking on Panther for his lack of substance.
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:14 pm

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In post 1305, Stargazers wrote:
In post 1304, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't like this slysly wagon very much and it's making me get suspicious of counterwagoning

What are you saying in 1302 maria?
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:18 pm

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In post 1400, Grapevine wrote:Someone explain the panther hype.

Got about a day left here.
Fake reactive aggression towards House and not doing anything else

House did the usual House probing thing, then Panther got all defensive and voted House under the pretense of "wtf i didnt even have time to catch up how dare he accuse me of commentary i was here for but a single hour"
In post 1401, Grapevine wrote:
quoted the slip for the iso
Oh. For some reason I thought Gamma posted that.
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:44 pm

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Gamma is town. By the nature of his playstyle, there aren't going to be specific places where you can tell he's scumhunting. He has reads an they change. But I can't possibly imagine that scum!gamma looked at all of his posts, said "hmm that looks good", and clicked submit.

SlySly's case on lane is terrible but probably not trying to look good either.

Let's lynch panther. He came into the game, gave in-depth analysis on things that didn't particularly matter, then when called out on it voted the person who called him out with an incredibly shallow reason. That's not town play.
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:46 pm

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In post 1405, Infinity 324 wrote:Gamma is town. By the nature of his playstyle, there aren't going to be specific places where you can tell he's scumhunting. He has reads an they change. But I can't possibly imagine that scum!gamma looked at all of his posts, said "hmm that looks good", and clicked submit.

SlySly's case on lane is terrible but probably not trying to look good either.

Let's lynch panther. He came into the game, gave in-depth analysis on things that didn't particularly matter, then when called out on it voted the person who called him out with an incredibly shallow reason. That's not town play.
That's a better case on Panther than what I've seen before, but I still want Sly lynched.
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:47 pm

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When you say that, does it mean you didn't think Panther was scum before and you do now?
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:49 pm

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In post 1407, Expedience wrote:When you say that, does it mean you didn't think Panther was scum before and you do now?
It means I thought the case wasn't as good before. I can understand how you'd think that but I did feel Panther was an okay lynch before, that just strengthened the case.
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:51 pm

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In post 1402, Gamma Emerald wrote:People are picking on Panther for his lack of substance.
This sounds like you don't want to lynch him or dislike the wagon
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:55 pm

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In post 1409, Expedience wrote:
In post 1402, Gamma Emerald wrote:People are picking on Panther for his lack of substance.
This sounds like you don't want to lynch him or dislike the wagon
No, that's just my interpretation of the case. I added no opinions of mine.
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:05 am

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"I have no opinion on the largest wagon counter to me 1 day till deadline"

"But I heard that he lacks substance or something"
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:05 am

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Like why aren't you lynched yet.
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:07 am

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That first point is a lie. The second is NAI.
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:14 am

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In post 1411, grapes wrote:"I have no opinion on the largest wagon counter to me 1 day till deadline"

"But I heard that he lacks substance or something"
In post 1412, grapes wrote:Like why aren't you lynched yet.
Gamma Emerald wrote:That first point is a lie. The second is NAI.
If it's a lie, then vote me. If it's a lie, give me your opinion on panther.

This feels like a scum reaction.
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:16 am

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And it's not even really my point anyway. Come crunch time you outta be shoveling who you think our best play is. Not flailing about making nothing posts designed to look helpful.
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:19 am

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In post 1405, Infinity 324 wrote:Gamma is town. By the nature of his playstyle, there aren't going to be specific places where you can tell he's scumhunting. He has reads an they change. But I can't possibly imagine that scum!gamma looked at all of his posts, said "hmm that looks good", and clicked submit.

SlySly's case on lane is terrible but probably not trying to look good either.

Let's lynch panther. He came into the game, gave in-depth analysis on things that didn't particularly matter, then when called out on it voted the person who called him out with an incredibly shallow reason. That's not town play.
I'll vote him to get a lynch.

But you're very, very wrong on gamma.
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:21 am

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We'll see about that
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:22 am

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Like "his playstyle is hard to parse" so why aare you so sure he's town then?

Show me where his reads changed before he was pushed for not changing them.
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:29 am

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In post 75, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because your reason for voting is faulty.
I feel Creature is actually more likely to be the scum on my wagon.
VOTE: Creature
In post 126, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually, think my read on Creature is more circumstantial than on stargazers.
PEdit: actually they may be town. Nevermind, the vote does not change.
In post 633, Gamma Emerald wrote:Thinking Expedience and Dunnstral are scum rn.
I think this is a change
In post 719, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Lane: Well, I've felt that way since Expedience's catch-up and nothing I've seen has really allayed that.
You know what, I think you may be right. I've kinda been tunneling Expe. I'll bump him to scumlean.
Plus he definitely shows he's developing new scumreads if that's the issue, not sure if those count as "changing" reads

Never said his playstyle was hard to parse

I still need to read that scumgame of his though.
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:34 am

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Yea maybe math has a point about creature/gamma. Because that was literally the only thing he let go of all game before I pushed him on being stagnant.

Next thing you know he develops opportunistic scumreads on math and house for I can't remember why.

Goes back to what someone was saying before about keeping the tells hidden. Because he changed it up only after I said something. But there wasn't any flow to it. Just cardboard propped up HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME NEW READS THEY'RE EVEN WORSE THAN BEFORE!

He's just either posting to 'prove someone wrong' on something regarding his play. Sticking his nose in places it doesn't belong. Or using generic reasoning for scumreads.

Like, infinty can you please just trust me on this bro?
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:38 am

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And he never really comes out and says he's not scumreading creature anymore.

I don't know how you can call that a natural progression. Doesn't make it definitely insidious because I don't always update all my shit in every other post, but don't call something natural that you can't even see.
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:45 am

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I never said it looked natural, he's not trying to make it look natural. Gamma jumps on things that are scummy in his head without any concern to whether people can follow his thought process. Not scum play.
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:56 am

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Maybe when we die N1 and you're alive with gamma in 3-way and vote wrong you'll remember this moment and just sheep me next time.
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:04 am

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Ok, can you look at this ISO? It resembles this game in some respects but it looks like more fluff and more logical read progressions.

Willing to accept being wrong here.
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