Mini 1836: Space Mafia (Game Over)

Dunnstral · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:35 pm

so what do you think of recent events

Nosferatu · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:42 pm

idk how I feel about the whole you and grapes thing. My first instinct is that you're scum since you claim to have visited him, but he doesn't corroborate it. But at the same time, a mafia rb does seem like an ok explanation of the current scenario. But at the same time would town make this conclusion this quickly? Maybe I'll just flip a coin à la TwoFace

Nosferatu · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:45 pm

In post 1576, Nosferatu wrote:idk how I feel about the whole you and grapes thing. My first instinct is that you're scum since you claim to have visited him, but he doesn't corroborate it, yet you're not cross-voting. But at the same time, a mafia rb does seem like an ok explanation of the current scenario. But at the same time would town make this conclusion this quickly? Maybe I'll just flip a coin à la TwoFace

EBWOP

Xkfyu · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:33 am

There is no way Dunn fake claims Friendly Neighbor as scum. Not to simply save himself from being lynched anyways. It would be one of the worst roles to fake claim. Only slightly better than him claiming that he's a mod-confirmable IC.

The only way I am ever even consider voting Dunn is if Grapes flips scum, because I

could

see this as a bussing maneuver.

Xkfyu · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:37 am

The far more likely scenario is that Dunn was simply blocked, hoping to get an easy mislynch.

Nosferatu · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:00 am

With that logic you'd think maf would never claim cop to get a lynch, but that shit happens all the time

Nosferatu · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:02 am

my biggest issue is with how he didn't even consider grapes as scum and immediately said he was blocked.

Xkfyu · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:06 am

In post 1580, Nosferatu wrote:With that logic you'd think maf would never claim cop to get a lynch, but that shit happens all the time

You say that, and yet, I've never actually seen it. Not in the manner in which you are describing.

Nosferatu wrote:my biggest issue is with how he didn't even consider grapes as scum and immediately said he was blocked.

Why is that an issue? It was my first thought as well, and still the likeliest scenario.

Nosferatu · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:29 am

In post 1582, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 1580, Nosferatu wrote:With that logic you'd think maf would never claim cop to get a lynch, but that shit happens all the time
You say that, and yet, I've never actually seen it. Not in the manner in which you are describing.

Nosferatu wrote:my biggest issue is with how he didn't even consider grapes as scum and immediately said he was blocked.
Why is that an issue? It was my first thought as well, and still the likeliest scenario.

1. Just off the top of my head NY192 RC claimed cop to get Nero lynched and we lynched him, only for him to be town and lynch RC the next day.

2. The thing is, if I were in that scenario, I don't think that would be my first reaction. Maybe its that I don't have much faith in my reads at times, but even if I was townreading anyone, if I were a friendly neighbor and they denied that I visited them, I would immediately vote them, and then I'd probably think "oh wait maybe I was rb'd". Idk it doesn't seem like townie mentality when I think about it.

Xkfyu · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:50 am

In post 1583, Nosferatu wrote:1. Just off the top of my head NY192 RC claimed cop to get Nero lynched and we lynched him, only for him to be town and lynch RC the next day.

That's just once, and hardly qualifies as "all the time." Plus, it was RC, which hardly qualifies for anything. I wouldn't rule anything at all out when it comes to him. Also, he was lynched the next day, which fuller supports my point. There is a reason why scum don't make claims like that, and like what Dunn claimed. There is no longevity in the claim.

In post 1583, Nosferatu wrote:2. The thing is, if I were in that scenario, I don't think that would be my first reaction. Maybe its that I don't have much faith in my reads at times, but even if I was townreading anyone, if I were a friendly neighbor and they denied that I visited them, I would immediately vote them, and then I'd probably think "oh wait maybe I was rb'd". Idk it doesn't seem like townie mentality when I think about it.

If you were scum, and you knew that a Friendly Neighbor visited you during N1, would you confirm the visit, or lie about it, in hopes of getting them lynched?

Xkfyu · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:51 am

EBWOP

fuller = further

Not sure what happened with that one.

Xkfyu · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:05 am

In post 1552, Something_Smart wrote:
VC 2.1
Dunnstral (3)- grapes, Toto, TwoFace
PantherPunt (1)- Dunnstral
Naomi-Tan (1)- massive
grapes (1)- Naomi-Tan

Not voting (5)- PantherPunt, Xkfyu, gerryoat, Nosferatu, Zachstralkita

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

(expired on 2016-10-29 12:00:00)

Mod notes: Xkfyu is V/LA until Monday.

Assuming I'm right about Dunnstral being town, I doubt any of the ones voting Dunn here are scum.

In post 1554, gerryoat wrote:VOTE: Dunn

And I'm 50/50 on this one.

Xkfyu · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:06 am

Also

VOTE: PantherPunt

massive · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:20 am

Why do you think no one of { grapes, Toto, Twoface } are scum?

Why, compared to them, are you only 50/50 on gerryoat?

Xkfyu · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:28 am

In post 1588, massive wrote:Why do you think no one of { grapes, Toto, Twoface } are scum?

Why, compared to them, are you only 50/50 on gerryoat?

Because a Friendly Neighbor caught in an apparent lie is the exact sort of wagon that town will very easily vote for. Therefore, scum don't need to vote Dunn.

Gerry's vote looked like the same thing, but I'm on the fence as to whether it was genuine or just meant to look the same.

TwoFace · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:56 am

vote: gerry

Can we lynch this scum now?

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:04 am

What the fuck did I walk back into

VOTE: Dunn

we have practically conf scum??

Xkfyu · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:21 am

In post 1591, Zachstralkita wrote:What the fuck did I walk back into

VOTE: Dunn

we have practically conf scum??

No

TwoFace · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:24 am

I vaguely remember a game that has almost the same thing. Friendly neighbor claimed and blocked. Seems funny/odd to be happening again

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:26 am

how are u guys letting this man speak that way.....

TwoFace · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:27 am

How is Dunn confirmed scum?

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:30 am

He is faking probably.

I know if I did that you all would be speedlynching me.

His decent skills as an orator are the fragile threads preventing his existence from being obliterated

aside from that clearly you know manufactured push on Panther and I

Naomi-Tan · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:27 am

@Mod; In the hypothetical situation that a messenger was roleblocked during this can would they be informed that there action failed?

ISO · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:28 am

In post 1597, Naomi-Tan wrote:
@Mod; In the hypothetical situation that a messenger was roleblocked during this can would they be informed that there action failed?

Can you clarify what you mean by "messenger"?

Naomi-Tan · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:29 am

@Mod: Someone who at night can target one player and send them one message