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[Expedience]

Creature, are you fine with being lynched if stargazers flips town?

Let's bring back the post.

Really?

Seems like a no brainer.

Creature has guilty on Stargazers.
Go with the guilty. Lynch Stargazers.
If town, lynch Creature.

Or,

Stargazers says I'm blocked scum.
Go with the theory. Lynch SlySly.
If town, vig Stargazers and lynch Dunn.

Sorry, got excited on the last line. I like efficiency.

I don't exactly agree, but I'm "Really?"'ing Grapevine's post because it seemed divorced from reality.

[Grapevine]

In what reality does someone claim a guilty and then your immediate reaction is "Willing to be lynched if it flips town?"
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the actuality of this situation?

Regardless, this is mountains out of fucking molehills. I'd bet my bottom dollar that people using this as a means to scumread me are likely scum hoping to push a lynch because they don't know how the fuck I operate.

-V

[Grapevine]

Now let's be crystal clear:
It's one thing to say, "Ay, Grapevine, what you said is kinda whack. I don't get it."
It's another to say, "You are out of touch with reality, you must be scum."
Does that make sense?
Is anyone seeing the falseflagging as clearly as I am?

[Expedience]

I'd bet my bottom dollar that people using this as a means to scumread me are likely scum hoping to push a lynch because they don't know how the fuck I operate.

If I knew how you operated (and I was scum), how would I behave differently?

[Expedience]

Now let's be crystal clear:
It's one thing to say, "Ay, Grapevine, what you said is kinda whack. I don't get it."
It's another to say, "You are out of touch with reality, you must be scum."
Does that make sense?
Is anyone seeing the falseflagging as clearly as I am?

Not particularly

[Expedience]

Regardless, this is mountains out of fucking molehills.

You're probably right about this though.

[SlySly]

I'd bet my bottom dollar that people using this as a means to scumread me are likely scum hoping to push a lynch because they don't know how the fuck I operate.

It was because of me that bets were officially disallowed on this site.

[Grapevine]

I'd bet my bottom dollar that people using this as a means to scumread me are likely scum hoping to push a lynch because they don't know how the fuck I operate.

If I knew how you operated (and I was scum), how would I behave differently?

You'd probably not, since, if savvy, you'd be banking on the rest of these ruskins not having meta experience with me.
Regardless, it's a non-issue that we can table for now.

Here's a real issue that we should probably address:
I haven't read the last 8 or so pages.
What's in there?
Also, what's going on in this game in general?
Why hasn't there been a lynch yet?

[MathBlade]

In what reality does someone claim a guilty and then your immediate reaction is "Willing to be lynched if it flips town?"
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the actuality of this situation?

Regardless, this is mountains out of fucking molehills. I'd bet my bottom dollar that people using this as a means to scumread me are likely scum hoping to push a lynch because they don't know how the fuck I operate.

-V

No you aren't. I care significantly and it's why I've been asking questions. The most likely thing is Stargazers is scum. Their reads just don't make sense plus the claimed guilty from Creature.

[Grapevine]

They're like Schrodinger's pages:
They may or may not be filled with total shit and I won't know for sure until I read 'em.
I just worry, y'know, that it'll just be more of the same.

@Math: Why hasn't there been a gazer lynch yet, then?
I saw some votes amassing, then some stalling about it.

[Not Chara]

not lynching anything over stargazers today.
actaully, when Expedience requoted infinity(?)'s post that started all of this, i found the wording odd. i remembered it as a normal question, but on the reread it was strangely casual, like he was expecting a town Stargazer lynch and to grab a Creature mislynch on the backhand.

especially now that it's been explained, grapevine shouldn't be getting votes for this. i've only read this page so i'm not sure if they have them, just a guess based on Varsoon's words on this page.
going to bed.

[Not Chara]

to add to the above: it wasn't a 'how confident are you' kind of feel, or a 'we'll lynch you if stargazer flips town, you know that'. it was more like 'hey there, if we lynch stargazer and they're town, can we lynch you?'

i'm likely not articulating myself well. if you want clarification, see you tomorrow.

this is more in relation to grapevine than infinity. mainly, i can see where varsoon is coming from.

[MathBlade]

They're like Schrodinger's pages:
They may or may not be filled with total shit and I won't know for sure until I read 'em.
I just worry, y'know, that it'll just be more of the same.

@Math: Why hasn't there been a gazer lynch yet, then?
I saw some votes amassing, then some stalling about it.

I wanted to poke Creature because Creature was very much scum read and their play didn't make sense from a cop perspective in a last will game and I want House's replacement to be found. We have the time for the replacement whoever they are to catch up and use it. Speed lynching now means that there is a possibility we go into night without a replacement for the House slot and I believe the House slot is town. So it's protown to wait on the replacement.

[MathBlade]

It's also why I asked the Stargazers slot about their reads. They didn't try to expand after I asked multiple times and they were in discord with what I sent. If anything and they believed they were being lynched like they thought they should be they'd be fighting more. Trying to get their reads out. Instead it seems almost "blah"

In short I like neither slot but both being scum would be insanity.

[Dunnstral]

assuming a mafia flip
rule of 3 says one of dunn/lane/math is scum
and one of house/expedience/sly/creature

but I can't tinfoil my way to a world where it's creature
sly I can tinfoil but it's tinfoil. and I really like my house read

What was the reasoning for this?

[Dunnstral]

MariaR may answer as well

Dunn Lane Math town
Infinity is town lane
Sly house slot are scum
Creature is ???
Rest I don't have a good enough read.

OK. So you do think I'm town. Now, like I asked, tell me what yours items do over text.

[Infinity 324]

My comment to creature was something making sure we can lynch stargazers without repercussions (specifically, I didn't want scum!creature to push a mislynch and get off the hook). Varsoon, I think the reason expedience is saying you're out of touch with the game is because that's the only thing either head of your hydra has had to say all day. I'm willing to accept that I may find your playstyle scummy, because this doesn't seem like grapes' scum game to me, but please do something. Thanks.

[Grapevine]

Sorry I was overtaken by the void for a few.

[Grapevine]

I'm gonna trust creature.

-G

[Grapevine]

Oh.
Embarrassing part of being in a hydra is when your partner reads a message and you don't realize you ever got it.

Terribly sorry about that!

[Infinity 324]

Who are gazers' buddies

[Grapevine]

I dunno. That gamma flip killed my motivation here.

Probably the one's not keeping an open mind here.

Should I read today's posts?

[Grapevine]

Btw that is a hilarious question coming from you to me.

[Grapevine]

Is Not chara in the house slot?

[Infinity 324]

I dunno. That gamma flip killed my motivation here.

Probably the one's not keeping an open mind here.

Should I read today's posts?

Yes