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[Grapevine]

Expe might be scum.

[Infinity 324]

How convenient you lynch my top townread while I'm afk and Creature comes into the day claiming guilty on our slot lol I don't care what Nat says I'm willing to bet Creature is a role cop on us and saw that we're pr

We're a roleblocker and we can rb either phone actions or actual pr actions we can do both but we won't be able to rb the next night we roleblocked slysly last night

so he saw you were a roleblocker and decided that he would claim a guilty on you to get you lynched. knowing it's a 1 for 1 and that he'd be lynched the next day...as a rolecop

there is no world that ever happens and no world where I'd believe you actually believe that

gg your game is over

When a item is first received it cannot be used, you must wait 1 phase before using it. This is including if you stole an item.
For example hacking an item

day 1

that item cannot be used till night 1

Phone actions can be used during the day. Stargazers role makes no sense

I additionally submitted a profiling action to fire just now

I think I see where your head's at here and I like it

Honestly I was kinda expecting more from panther, I don't see anything from him that can't come from scum and this shit when stargazers was already doomed is not helping

[grapes]

Varsoon I told you infinity was probably town.

UNVOTE: [/u]

[Grapevine]

Varsoon I told you infinity was probably town.

UNVOTE: [/u]

UNVOTE:

So not everyone was misguided on gamma I'm fairly sure.

AND I WAS REALLY CONVINCING. I almost changed infinities mind and he's a brick wall.

This tells me things.

[Infinity 324]

Hydras amirite

[Infinity 324]

Varsoon I told you infinity was probably town.

UNVOTE: [/u]

UNVOTE:

So not everyone was misguided on gamma I'm fairly sure.

AND I WAS REALLY CONVINCING. I almost changed infinities mind and he's a brick wall.

This tells me things.

Hmm?

[Grapevine]

Panther can be scum.

I can't remember a single thing he's said this game other than what infinity just quoted.

[Grapevine]

But expedience shadowed me pretty hard on infinity and then SHEEPING ME ON MY THOUGHTS ON CREATURE EVEN THOUGH I MISQUOTED CREATURE LOOKS PRETTY BAD

I'm still in day 1 btw. I hate reading but I'm going through this slowly.

[Infinity 324]

But expedience shadowed me pretty hard on infinity and then SHEEPING ME ON MY THOUGHTS ON CREATURE EVEN THOUGH I MISQUOTED CREATURE LOOKS PRETTY BAD

I'm still in day 1 btw. I hate reading but I'm going through this slowly.

Quote the second thing?

Expedience seems to be progressing through the game naturally, scumhunting without overplaying his scumhunting. Plus I agree with a lot of what he's said since eod1

[Infinity 324]

...ok, Sly. so we just disagree. claiming no action is still giving information about your role, and i don't want to argue semantics with you. that's like claiming VT and defending yourself with 'oh, but i didn't claim a PR'. it helps scum narrow things down.
explain your self-vote. i can't see a reason for it beyond stirring the pot.
Dunn: oh, right. i'd forgotten the name of that action.

This seems like just lecturing to me and a bit LAMIST, but maybe that's just a playstyle thing

[Infinity 324]

Creature should hack stargazers I think

[Infinity 324]

Wait stargazers should tell creature which slot it's in and creature should hack it, if that's wrong it's a scumclaim

[Grapevine]

SlySly/Mathblade/Creature/lane0168/Infinity324/House/Dunnstral

Not Chara

PantherPunt/Expedience/StarGazers

(no particular order within the tiers)

[Infinity 324]

I don't disagree with that list

[Infinity 324]

I'm liking chara less as I go through again

[Infinity 324]

no reason to fakeclaim that one is able to roleblock phone actions. that'd be stupid.
Stargazers, you have what amounts to a guilty on SlySly. yet you're voting Creature because he got a guilty result on you? even though it's been brought up that redirection or framing could be possible? i don't buy it.
did i misunderstand something?
add the points earlier, that it would be ridiculous for Creature as scum to frame you in this manner when he would likely be lynched the next day.

this is pretty much the crux of it. makes no sense to vote creature there when the response is "you must have been redirected/framed" and simultaneously know there was a no-kill night when you blocked slysly

would love to see the attempt at explaining that though

Wow

It's almost too obvious for both scum to be doing this but I'd be surprised if both of these were town

[Infinity 324]

invisible vote on stargazers. you lynch people who have guilties on them period.

I've been binked on a frame and it's the worst but 99/100 times the person is just mafia. stargazers posts today point heavily to it- the loss of perspective being the nail in the coffin imho

but lettuce discuss more before we end the day. there are strategic considerations that need to be made.

dunn - I assume no reply from you means you have nothing to tell me

I can't believe I missed this shit the first time around

"Look at how much I'm bussing here"

[Grapevine]

Grapevine already lost interess in the game? wow

No? Lol. Just busy with other stuff.

I'm about here. There was skimming involved.

Panther can you explain your reads with regards to rule of 3? I'm kinda fuzzy here.

Why isn't anyone replacing into the house slot?

Why is not chara probably scum actually?

If expe is scum then panther is town.

Was the wagon all town? That's hilarious if so.

There's 1 or none. Scum WK'd that shit hard hard.

[Grapevine]

But expedience shadowed me pretty hard on infinity and then SHEEPING ME ON MY THOUGHTS ON CREATURE EVEN THOUGH I MISQUOTED CREATURE LOOKS PRETTY BAD

I'm still in day 1 btw. I hate reading but I'm going through this slowly.

Quote the second thing?

Expedience seems to be progressing through the game naturally, scumhunting without overplaying his scumhunting. Plus I agree with a lot of what he's said since eod1

This:

Spoiler:

Gamma, two players voting you doesn't mean one of them must be scum.

It's the way the wagon formed.

"It's not the wording I want, must be scum"

I don't think I've ever seen creature push on someone like this and he could be scum.

It's a cold shoulder, it's not trying to see things from gamma's side.

Like, I disagree with gamma that early on in RVS "the way" wagons form is very indicative of anything other than being driven by people not concerned with appearances. Which can be an alignment tell for some. But what he's saying is a whole lot more nuanced than "it's not the wording i want"

Yes, actually this is partly what I mean.

Small mundane shit that I remember for whatever reason. But it feels a lot less like exp genuinely conveying they had a similar thought process and more like trying to buddy because what I was saying there is inherently flawed when you make any kind of effort to figure out what I was talking about.

[Infinity 324]

I think it's reasonable to make the same misinterpretation you did even if they fully understood what you were saying. But I see what you mean

[Infinity 324]

Math and lane are town imo for defending doomed scum

I was being lazy and said a lot of terrible things this phase lol

[Expedience]

But expedience shadowed me pretty hard on infinity and then SHEEPING ME ON MY THOUGHTS ON CREATURE EVEN THOUGH I MISQUOTED CREATURE LOOKS PRETTY BAD

I'm still in day 1 btw. I hate reading but I'm going through this slowly.

Quote the second thing?

Expedience seems to be progressing through the game naturally, scumhunting without overplaying his scumhunting. Plus I agree with a lot of what he's said since eod1

This:

Spoiler:

Gamma, two players voting you doesn't mean one of them must be scum.

It's the way the wagon formed.

"It's not the wording I want, must be scum"

I don't think I've ever seen creature push on someone like this and he could be scum.

It's a cold shoulder, it's not trying to see things from gamma's side.

Like, I disagree with gamma that early on in RVS "the way" wagons form is very indicative of anything other than being driven by people not concerned with appearances. Which can be an alignment tell for some. But what he's saying is a whole lot more nuanced than "it's not the wording i want"

Yes, actually this is partly what I mean.

Small mundane shit that I remember for whatever reason. But it feels a lot less like exp genuinely conveying they had a similar thought process and more like trying to buddy because what I was saying there is inherently flawed when you make any kind of effort to figure out what I was talking about.

I misinterpreted it the same way. Creature's posts felt off and your post put that into words.

[Expedience]

to add to the above: it wasn't a 'how confident are you' kind of feel, or a 'we'll lynch you if stargazer flips town, you know that'. it was more like 'hey there, if we lynch stargazer and they're town, can we lynch you?'

i'm likely not articulating myself well. if you want clarification, see you tomorrow.

this is more in relation to grapevine than infinity. mainly, i can see where varsoon is coming from.

But stargazers won't flip town

[Expedience]

Math and lane are town imo for defending doomed scum

I was being lazy and said a lot of terrible things this phase lol

This

The way Dunnstral asks about Stargazers' items makes me think he's town.

[Infinity 324]

Math and lane are town imo for defending doomed scum

I was being lazy and said a lot of terrible things this phase lol

This

The way Dunnstral asks about Stargazers' items makes me think he's town.

Yeah true.