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PantherPunt · Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:56 am

In post 2246, Infinity 324 wrote: You just kept arguing for the lynch when it was clear to me at least that stargazers was getting lynched no matter what. We don't need the vote of every single player

I disagree that it was clear stargazers was getting lynched no matter what. Read through thread discussion at the time. Probably why in real time you had no problem with my adamancy

Dunnstral · Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:57 am

In post 2241, PantherPunt wrote:I tried to talk this out with Dunn already but he didn't respond.

I was still talking to Stargazers

Also I wouldn't want an item to go to you

PantherPunt · Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:59 am

In post 2227, Infinity 324 wrote:@Panther What's your read on chara?

T-->S

Creature, Lane, Math, Sly, House, Expedience, Dunn, GV, Panther, Chara

Don't have a solid read there but gun to head town

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:03 am

I read the surrounding posts when I reread d2, and I skimmed them again to make sure I wasn't missing anything. At the time, me, you, slysly, chara, dunn, and obviously creature all thought stargazers was scum. Mathblade was the only one who expressed doubts, and lane and GV were the only ones who didn't comment on it.

I think it was clear stargazers would get lynched. I can't say "no you couldn't have possibly thought it was unclear", but your behavior still gives me qualms

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:09 am

And expedience didn't comment

The only way star want getting lynched was if expedience, GV, and lane all adamantly townread them and were able to somehow get everyone else to agree on a better lynch.

Seems impossible to me.

PantherPunt · Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:11 am

Fair enough and ya I had mathblade in mind primarily. I think I was skewed onto her a bit bc of something that made me feel she was town

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:15 am

In post 2255, PantherPunt wrote:Fair enough and ya I had mathblade in mind primarily. I think I was skewed onto her a bit bc of something that made me feel she was town

Ok

I continue to like your posts, I can't tell whether it's just because I like your playstyle or because you're town

But I don't want to townread someone based on just gut after I did that for stargazers and see how that worked out...

I wonder if GV is scum after all

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:17 am

If varsoon was the only head in that hydra I'd lynch the fuck out of him

Creature · Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:18 am

StarGazers + Expedience + Grapevine looks fair.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:21 am

You think the two remaining scum are cross bussing?

How about chara

Creature · Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:23 am

Hmm didn't see

Creature · Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:24 am

idk Not Chara looks town, but I don't like giving strong townreads to who I never saw playing scum.

Grapevine · Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:29 am

Infinity vars and I haven't gotten together about this game since sometime day 1. I understand his read on you, it's a remnant of your early interactions. There's omgus-y feelings going on from both sides and it's stilly and needs to get squashed.

Look at the people who pushed you day 1. Thinking back I don't like the way expedience piggybacked it.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:30 am

In post 2198, Grapevine wrote:Is Not chara in the house slot?

Missed this

Chara is guilty's slot, house slot is empty

Grapevine · Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:30 am

Like WHO out of everyone when you got ran up do you think genuinely thought you were a scumbag?

Grapevine · Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:30 am

Yea I figured that out already.

Lion was a scumfuck.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:33 am

In post 2262, Grapevine wrote:Infinity vars and I haven't gotten together about this game since sometime day 1. I understand his read on you, it's a remnant of your early interactions. There's omgus-y feelings going on from both sides and it's stilly and needs to get squashed.

Look at the people who pushed you day 1. Thinking back I don't like the way expedience piggybacked it.

Eh, I was looking them at the time and nothing stuck out as particularly scummy. Can you quote some stuff?

Grapevine · Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:40 am

In post 591, Expedience wrote:
In post 569, Infinity 324 wrote:Grapevines wasn't particularly trying to avoid anything, but it seems almost too convenient that he's saying a lot of things which are almost impossible to respond to. It really doesn't feel like he wants to discuss things with me.
You're literally calling them scum because you can't think of a retort to their arguments

"almost too convenient" is not true, and you know it. You don't have any other votes to fall back on.

Where am I appealing to emotion?
555

Piggybacks us HARD here.

"You don't have any other votes to fall back on" is how scum push. Doesn't ask you. Just knows that you're lost in a game where scum are playing well/non-existent and not giving you a chance at all to show/develop some trajectory.

In post 605, Expedience wrote:I'm not going to respond to infinity's posts any more because every time he posts there's a new thing and he's already going to get lynched.

And this is bad.

After that gamma got hype and expedience stayed really floaty around that. And I don't know what else they pushed up till EOD.

SlySly · Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:42 am

Prod avoidance while nothing goes on.

Grapevine · Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:43 am

Who do you think is scum sly?

SlySly · Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:43 am

Stargazers is scum

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:46 am

I remember agreeing with a lot of what expedience said after they stopped tunneling me

And iirc expedience was pushing me before that?

Anyway I can see town getting suspicious of someone not having only one solid scumread which wasn't even that strong to begin with.

Grapevine · Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:46 am

In post 2247, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 2217, Grapevine wrote: Panther can you explain your reads with regards to rule of 3? I'm kinda fuzzy here.
Ya it's a tell I've observed. For some reason scum like to include a bro in their top townreads - typically one where that's popular opinion in the thread.
And like to include a bro in their top scumreads - typically one where that's popular opinion in the thread.

So when looking at Star's earlier list of reads pre-guilty, I took note. When you look at the new list it's basically static except Expedience fell out of the list which was interesting.

I like using it as a basis to look at those groupings as compared to my own reads

What's your read on expedience?

Grapevine · Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:46 am

In post 2270, SlySly wrote:Stargazers is scum

Well yea. Is that your only read?

Grapevine · Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:54 am

In post 2271, Infinity 324 wrote:I remember agreeing with a lot of what expedience said after they stopped tunneling me

And iirc expedience was pushing me before that?

Anyway I can see town getting suspicious of someone not having only one solid scumread which wasn't even that strong to begin with.

Yea expe was part of the initial string of naked votes you got.

And then I noticed a quote wall calling you scum a bunch of times.

Like I realized I pushed pretty hard on you; but was it ever unfair? Did I ever stop trying to interact with you?

It's why I sorta understand your position here. If you're town and I shaped up my read on you. But did most of the heavy lifting with the push, you're gonna hold onto more omgus for us then someone like expe who didn't do shit except toss shade your way and bail out once it wasn't looking like it was going anywhere anymore.

WE HAD THOSE INTERACTIONS