Mini 1836: Space Mafia (Game Over)

[grapes]

now i am doubting dunn is town but still would rather flip gerry/grapes first

p.edit - the one that was pointed out earlier and I made a comment about a slip right after. couple pages back i think

Pointed out where? I probably missed it.

[TwoFace]

Vig should shoot Zach

or grapes or massive

[TwoFace]

now i am doubting dunn is town but still would rather flip gerry/grapes first

p.edit - the one that was pointed out earlier and I made a comment about a slip right after. couple pages back i think

Pointed out where? I probably missed it.

damn, are you that lazy?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8431721

[Xkfyu]

Lot of variables and stuff. But I guess the main point I'm making here is that my scumread who was supposed to " confirm" himself was roleblocked in the most convenient fashion. And somehow itlepip winds up dead. And you are all fine with this.

Yes, very much so.

Town Dunn being roleblocked is the best case scenario for scum.

The danger in a Friendly Neighbor being alive increases the longer he remains alive, due to the nature of the role.

Removing his ability to visit anyone every night not only removes that danger, but also puts a lot of suspicion on the FN, since no one is every visited, and therefore no one can ever confirm him. Resulting in his inevitable lynch.

Now, as scum, he would still never be able to be confirmed by anyone. Still resulting in his inevitable lynch.

It's such a ridiculous fake claim that it doesn't even warrant discussion. Dunn is town. Move along to your next attempted mislynch please.

[grapes]

Grapes. I believe its a roleblocker. given both your reactions. but if that wasn't a thing then I'd go with You being Red! its far more likely you lied about not getting his pm than him making that fake claim.

Why is it not equally likely

that we'd want to trade

, naomi?

Your thought process makes no sense.

explain what this means and what you're saying here

I'm saying why does naomi's mind go straight to grapes scum; when I'M the one CCing Dunn's claim to have visited me. Who has less reason to lie there?

How is this a slip booger brain? He's asking me a fucking question.

[TwoFace]

ok, guess i misinterpreted. I thought you were implying that why would we (scum) want to trade.

my bad

[Xkfyu]

Noted that as soon as Panther starts questioning Zach, Zach's attitude towards Panther switches from buddy buddy to "this guy could be scum" even when it doesn't really make sense

This is actually pretty big and makes me think Panther might be town



Who would lynch Zach right now?

Me. In a heartbeat.

[grapes]

That quip you quoted from zach there is pretty bad now that I'm looking at it.

[Xkfyu]

The only issue is would mafia risk killing itlepip without knowing there was a doc or would they block/kill him?

Nah that's not likely. Nevrmind.

Don't know how my alignment is a factor to this

If you're scum, or better yet a scum RB. Would scum block and kill the same person is what I'm wondering.

No, not unless they knew someone would be watching/tracking and intentionally wanted to make it look like they weren't buddies.

[Dunnstral]

The only issue is would mafia risk killing itlepip without knowing there was a doc or would they block/kill him?

Nah that's not likely. Nevrmind.

Don't know how my alignment is a factor to this

If you're scum, or better yet a scum RB. Would scum block and kill the same person is what I'm wondering.

Either I was roleblocked or grapes is lying.

[Dunnstral]

And if grapes were lying, they could claim I was roleblocked after my death

[grapes]

This game's hard man.

It's almost like everybody is ignoring my reads

Can't imagine it's hard to tunnel on me, leave for 2 days, then say some inane stuff about how I'm scum when someone else is getting lynched

Alright you've been scumreading panther. My b.

And after tossing it around in the old hollow skull gerry might just be scum with him. THAT'S the dude acting like he knows dunn is scum here more than everybody else who's keeping an open mind on shit.

Not sure on a third. Probs like massive/nos/naomi - one of those.

Why are you trying to pair me up with Gerry?
Why aren't you voting Gerry if you think he could be scum?

Are you scum with Gerry?

Because his push on you is bad but I think you're scum.
Because I think you're more likely scum.

No.

Lol.

What am I suppose to be seeing here man?

[Xkfyu]

If you're scum, or better yet a scum RB. Would scum block and kill the same person is what I'm wondering.

Would this kill a BP? The way itlepip claimed is consistent with a BP.

But then again, kill the PR block the FN seems simpler. Occan's razor.

Only if the BP was an active ability.

BPs are usually passive though, so most likely not.

[Xkfyu]

Maybe scum have a strongman and that's why they went for itlepip; or maybe they yolo'd it because town failed to lynch day 1

It really doesn't matter why.

[Dunnstral]

Huh?

That's more than enough to get a slight read on.

Is this really what you're interested in atm?

Why shouldn't I be interested in it?

Still think dunn's scum by play. He's done a good job today, as either alignment honestly, of making me rethink shit. Nothing he isn't capable of, though.

How am I "scum by play" if you've only ever pushed me based on my claim and me being roleblocked?

No really, how am I scum by play? It's all because I got roleblocked

Where are you rethinking? Because you've been dead-set on getting me lynched all day. saying "Gerry could be scum with Dunn" when he's about to get lynched doesn't look like rethinking. Nowhere do you really question Zach, who I'm pushing

[Xkfyu]

Xk why's dunn town?

My Post 1853 should cover that sufficiently.

[grapes]

I pushed you day 1 before any of this shit happened you recall.

And your zach push stems back to meta that I didn't find accurate but if you've developed since then I'm interested in what you have to say.

[Xkfyu]

The only issue is would mafia risk killing itlepip without knowing there was a doc or would they block/kill him?

Nah that's not likely. Nevrmind.

Don't know how my alignment is a factor to this

If you're scum, or better yet a scum RB. Would scum block and kill the same person is what I'm wondering.

Either I was roleblocked or grapes is lying.

Maybe he's telling the truth AND you were roleblocked.

[Toto]

Either I was roleblocked or grapes is lying.

Maybe he's telling the truth AND you were roleblocked.

I don't think you are contradicting each other...

[Toto]

17. The Mafia have unrestricted daytalk in this game.

Is there any way we can use this? I expect mafia to be more... coordinated?

[Dunnstral]

I pushed you day 1 before any of this shit happened you recall.

Because I was pushing Zach. Who is very likely scum.

This is also the reason I visited you
You said I was "prickly" as your reasoning for the push though.... ok

[Zachstralkita]

Lot of variables and stuff. But I guess the main point I'm making here is that my scumread who was supposed to " confirm" himself was roleblocked in the most convenient fashion. And somehow itlepip winds up dead. And you are all fine with this.

Yes, very much so.

Town Dunn being roleblocked is the best case scenario for scum.

The danger in a Friendly Neighbor being alive increases the longer he remains alive, due to the nature of the role.

Removing his ability to visit anyone every night not only removes that danger, but also puts a lot of suspicion on the FN, since no one is every visited, and therefore no one can ever confirm him. Resulting in his inevitable lynch.

Now, as scum, he would still never be able to be confirmed by anyone. Still resulting in his inevitable lynch.

It's such a ridiculous fake claim that it doesn't even warrant discussion. Dunn is town. Move along to your next attempted mislynch please.

How much shit do I get to talk when you get proven wrong?

[grapes]

I pushed you day 1 before any of this shit happened you recall.

Because I was pushing Zach. Who is very likely scum.

This is also the reason I visited you
You said I was "prickly" as your reasoning for the push though.... ok

Man if you're gonna just discredit me then I'm wondering why you're so sure I'm town like...

...You realize there was more than that.

zach's been off my radar for a minute.

[Zachstralkita]

I pushed you day 1 before any of this shit happened you recall.

Because I was pushing Zach. Who is very likely scum.

THE most bullshit push ever

[grapes]

17. The Mafia have unrestricted daytalk in this game.

Is there any way we can use this? I expect mafia to be more... coordinated?

What are you getting at here exactly?

Who seems uncoordinated?