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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:11 pm

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In post 571, ironstove wrote:
In post 569, PenguinPower wrote:Why do you think the Knighty slot is town?
I have not necessarily felt he's mafia more so than the Thor/Saru/Aron slots so I'd rather see them go first.
It's bewildering to me how your scumlist doesn't have knighty OR lmk. Why even have a list?
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:29 pm

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But LMK isn't scum.

And now I'm wondering about Sharky. Man that wagon was fast and had some shady shit.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:52 pm

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In post 576, GreyICE wrote:But LMK isn't scum.

And now I'm wondering about Sharky. Man that wagon was fast and had some shady shit.
Who is Sharky?
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:53 pm

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Look, knight might be scum, I already explain I'm not spamming my scum list with meaningless garbage, so if I had to pick a 1 person scum list it is THOR so LYNCH THOR.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:53 pm

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A scum LIST IS MEANINGLESS IF IT HAS 6 PEOPLE ON IT BUT THERE ARE 3 SCUM.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:55 pm

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You are literally just GUESSING on who could be scum at that point... Like BLINDLY guessing.

BRB gonna re-read knight's ISO, but my impression of him is null, and I know everyone's scumread on him is based on the fact that he could be very distanced/disengaged scum. That's possible, but that's not what I consider to be a D1 lynch... However let me confirm.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:56 pm

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In post 575, Lowell wrote:
In post 571, ironstove wrote:
In post 569, PenguinPower wrote:Why do you think the Knighty slot is town?
I have not necessarily felt he's mafia more so than the Thor/Saru/Aron slots so I'd rather see them go first.
It's bewildering to me how your scumlist doesn't have knighty OR lmk. Why even have a list?
What the fuck does this even mean? What the hell are you trying to say about my play? Are you literally fucking making the statement that because my reads != yours my input and reads are worth less than yours when we're on D1 and there are no flips or information to base this on? This is something only scum would say. You ARE SCUM.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:10 pm

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In post 545, Lowell wrote:I find it scummy as hell when someone who has been coasting for weeks suddenly gets a little pressure then decides to quit. Esp when others follow that with "oh too bad, I was super ready to jump on that wagon you guyz"

VOTE: knighty

I'm confident there's at least one scum in the basicially indistinguishable pair of lmk/knighy. This well-timed quit fits with what I would expect this type of player to do when under pressure. So, sorry whoever is replacing, you got a bum deal.
Calls knight out for 'coasting' but he has 16 posts in this thread up til now while knight has 25+ before replacing out 2 days ago.
In post 548, Lowell wrote:
In post 546, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:So after reading up I have to say I think Lmk is scum, he can sir back and watch the theatre of others sink each other while he kicks back and doesnt do anything

VOTE: Lmk

Pedit: Lowell what do you think of the people saying yout 180 was trash
My 180 on who? Doesn't matter, I defend it blindly.
Obvious scum deflection argument. Try again.
In post 502, GreyICE wrote:Sooooooo


Errr


Am I the first person to notice that Knighty Knight is obvious scum?

Like super fucking obvious scum?
Can you go into further detail on this and quote which post stands out to you on why knight is scum? I'm not seeing anything. The guy claims it's his first time playing MS as well, keep that in mind.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:12 pm

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In post 580, ironstove wrote:You are literally just GUESSING on who could be scum at that point... Like BLINDLY guessing.

BRB gonna re-read knight's ISO, but my impression of him is null, and I know everyone's scumread on him is based on the fact that he could be very distanced/disengaged scum. That's possible, but that's not what I consider to be a D1 lynch... However let me confirm.
This is EXACTLY how I feel about thor though. If you are going to do this for Knight, I'll do the same for Thor and see how I go
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:15 pm

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Alright re-read thor's ISO, still think the dude is scum. Please jump on board peeps.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:18 pm

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In post 583, LmkGuy wrote:
In post 580, ironstove wrote:You are literally just GUESSING on who could be scum at that point... Like BLINDLY guessing.

BRB gonna re-read knight's ISO, but my impression of him is null, and I know everyone's scumread on him is based on the fact that he could be very distanced/disengaged scum. That's possible, but that's not what I consider to be a D1 lynch... However let me confirm.
This is EXACTLY how I feel about thor though. If you are going to do this for Knight, I'll do the same for Thor and see how I go
You find thor to be disengaged? He's joined the game after lowell, and has almost double lowell's posts.

Thor has been aggressively in the game swinging at people, including myself which comes off as a town maneuver but it's a common scum replacement strategy.

The tracer slot was being heavily scum read by me as well, and thor's posts are fluffy, wordy, a lot of unnecessary things being said for filler and not much material... Overall I dissected his posts and I'm still sure he's a scum slot.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:29 pm

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I'm pretty sure that the Thor slot has been mainly writing a lot of filler.

Substitute him out, I'd maybe consider lowell now after the latest posts he made that I highlighted above, and looking at his ISO I have just realized how much this guy has been coasting the entire game.

Town, I'm asking you all to carefully consider the reasons I laid out and join as there is not much time left for the lynch and we should not no lynch.

Save some other dumb posts coming out from null slots, I will however willingly pivot my vote to another scum read if that puts them within hammer range. Right now, I don't find either the karnos or knight wagon to be appealing. I'm more inclined to believe they are mislynches.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:57 pm

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In post 564, ironstove wrote:How is it different? Specifics.
I'm seeing bravado and (fake?) confidence. Your tone is different.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:02 pm

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consider my vote on the knight slot.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:58 am

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@saru you said that Thor is copying your logic. But Thor's vote on him started because of karnos's talk on townreads and you voted him because of meta at first. What exactly are you referring to?
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:01 am

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Wait strike that I just reread your vote on Karnos and it was about the townread thing but in a more speculative way than Thor,, who was describing more of an inconsistency in his vote. So my question about clarifying your statement on thors logic still stands
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:00 am

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In post 567, PenguinPower wrote:Why do you think it would be immediately hammered?
Chrome ate my post. Attempt #2.


If I am right on the money about Saru *or* Thor, I think a scum partner of might go ahead and hammer town!Knighty to avoid any chance of the wagon growing on the actual scum. The scum could then turn things against you or others who were strongly in favor of lynching Knighty.

That said, I could be off base, and/or Knighty could possibly be scum with Thor or Saru. I will put him at L-1 24 hours to deadline, or after we have heard from a replace.

If someone else beats me to the punch, consider this a tentative
intent to hammer
, I don't want any cheap excuses from the replace about not claiming because nobody gave intent.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:21 am

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Why do you want to wait until so close to deadline? Pretty anti-town, especially considering there is no alternative wagon at this moment.
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:38 am

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In post 592, PenguinPower wrote:Why do you want to wait until so close to deadline? Pretty anti-town, especially considering there is no alternative wagon at this moment.
Do you think there is a serious danger of being stuck with a no-lynch?
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:25 am

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Mod: Request deadline extension, or at least pause the counter until the slot is filled.


I believe in the Saru wagon. This one came together astonishingly fast. That's scary.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:04 am

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In post 594, GreyICE wrote:
Mod: Request deadline extension, or at least pause the counter until the slot is filled.
I was thinking about doing that all evening yesterday. So, unless someone has any objections...

I am pausing the deadline until a replacement for Knighty Knight is found. Once someone replaces in, the counter will start with three days remaining. This is also to accomodate the numerous current V/LAs.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:17 am

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In post 593, karnos wrote:Do you think there is a serious danger of being stuck with a no-lynch?
Well in your case, you put him at L-1 with 24 hours left. The intent comes sometime within the next 4-6 hours, let's say. He claims town PR and we currently have 3 alternative wagons at two votes each. So, 18 hours to convince people to compromise on a wagon. I'm not as concerned with ending with a no lynch as I am with a rushed, compromise lynch. Scrambling at the end of the day to secure a lynch is the type of play that scum likes, so I don't understand why you - as town - would advocate for it.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:20 am

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In a twist of fate, I found a replacement just now.

Say hi to Fire Assassin, who is replacing in for Knighty Knight!
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:23 am

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Hello all, 24 pages doesn't seem like much to catch up on.
Skimmed over my previous person in slot before I replaced in so have somewhat of starting point.
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:25 am

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I'm just gonna bump here for that freshly sweet pagetop VC.

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