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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:11 am

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I am right. You are wrong. If MoS didn't want to be in this game, he would ask for a replacement.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:35 am

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This is supposed to be a normal game. Don't speculate about absurd roles.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:49 am

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^ I was a jester in a 30 player game once...and that's exactly the kind of close-minded mentality they had. He WILL be vigged tonight.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:49 am

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EBWOP

mentality they had when I won day 1.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:53 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:I am right. You are wrong. If MoS didn't want to be in this game, he would ask for a replacement.
and you can bet your house that if MoS was given a Jester role, he's be out of this game faster than Cubsfan from a gay bar. :P

And yeh i remember that game. Its the reason i am now so paranoid about Jesters in all my games. :p
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:10 am

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So ? What do you want to do about the MoS situation ?
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:16 am

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schismatized wrote:
vote peers
again. This post irks me:
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Vote: JordanA24


Reason: He's had four posts so far, two of them were votes with no other content. He has not explained his reasons for his current vote, which started a bandwagon on that player, and has tried to spin an apology the person he voted for made as 'backtracking', which feels like trying to retroactively justify his vote.

My other two of the 'requested list'...

Panzerjager, for the following, which feels like he's bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagoning, or trying to convince those who're voting otherwise to pick one of us:
Panzerjager wrote:So, are we lynching hasd or peers?
And #2, Sikario, which is more due to all the arguing about him than anything else giving much more to think about. I've seen plenty of town mislynches, especially day one, and they all seem to follow the same patterns as today, but I haven't played with a lot of this game before -- they could work differently as a town and be seeing something I don't.
First of all, if you haven't noticed, I have been acting the same way as panzerjager the whole game. Why no vote for me? A little hypocritical.

Second, I have never really agreed with voting someone for lurking. Always ask for a mod prod/replace.
Do not like this post at all. "Why are you voting Panzer when I'm doing it to" is not a good argument for, well, anything, certanly not for a vote like that; if you want to defend Panzer, then do so, don't do a "but I'm just as bad" thing; even if you are, no one can vote 2 people at once. And there's nothing wrong with lurker hunting.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:30 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:So ? What do you want to do about the MoS situation ?
for now, ignore it. He is pushing a ridiculous lynch on someone with poor reasoning. This is often how he plays, so from a meta-perspective, he isnt defo scum. Obviously that doesnt mean what he is saying has any credibility, with regard to policy lynching TS, but for now i think lynching you is a good plan.

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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:56 am

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Yosarian2 wrote: "Why are you voting Panzer when I'm doing it to" is not a good argument for, well, anything, certanly not for a vote like that; if you want to defend Panzer, then do so, don't do a "but I'm just as bad" thing; even if you are, no one can vote 2 people at once. And there's nothing wrong with lurker hunting.
First of all, I wasn't defending panzer. It could have been anyone else using the same "non-chalant" style that he attacked. I'm just saying If your attacking someone for a certain behavior, why not attack all with that behavior. It looks a little like your just using that argument to target someone.

Also, I realize nobody can have to votes, but there are such things as FOSs.

And your last sentence is just opinion, I hope you know that. There's nothing wrong with having a life.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:53 pm

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Peers wrote:I'm trying to use the same technique A.B.R. uses and be scummy as hell, just in an asshole way and not in a scum way. It seems to work for him. Be too hated to waste a NK on, but not quite scummy enough to lynch. Altho I've yet to resort to Jester-speculation and Vig-direction.
I notice that you're also ignoring my advice to try and be more useful. Vote stays.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: get good before you try to get clever.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:21 am

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Hell, then I'd never be allowed to get clever. Besides... if you were 'good' or 'clever' are determined when the game is over, are they not?
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:29 am

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schismatized wrote:First of all, I wasn't defending panzer. It could have been anyone else using the same "non-chalant" style that he attacked. I'm just saying If your attacking someone for a certain behavior, why not attack all with that behavior.
Yeah, and I'm not a big fan of that argument. Espeally at this point in day 1, if I see something so something scummy, I'll attack them for it and focus on them without necessarally trying to figure out if anyone else has done something similar and/or attack the person who's doing it the worst..
And your last sentence is just opinion, I hope you know that. There's nothing wrong with having a life.
Lurking really hurts the town, and I think that just relying on the mod to control the problem is not in the best interestes of the town. Anyway, I understand that some reasonable people disagree with me on the validity of lurker voting, and that's ok, but I don't like that you're apparently using that as one of your reason to join the large peers wagon.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:50 am

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my vote stands. i can tell that me and yos are not going to see eye to eye on those issues, especially when he uses his an opinion of something as backup for his argument lol. (ie im not a big fan of...)
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:47 pm

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Sorry for my inactivity.. Post coming tomorow.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:22 pm

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Hey, I remember you! Weren't you scum?
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:17 am

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Because it was in your role pm, Erg0?
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:41 am

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Erg0 wrote:Hey, I remember you! Weren't you scum?
Actually, he was being one of the most level-headed and rational people in the game. And also lurking. Which does make him sort of stand out as different.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:44 am

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Peers wrote:
Erg0 wrote:Hey, I remember you! Weren't you scum?
Actually, he was being one of the most level-headed and rational people in the game. And also lurking. Which does make him sort of stand out as different.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:21 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Peers wrote:
Erg0 wrote:Hey, I remember you! Weren't you scum?
Actually, he was being one of the most level-headed and rational people in the game. And also lurking. Which does make him sort of stand out as different.
butt-kisser... :P
Only my wife's, but she's hot so I've got an excuse. The fact is, in the few posts he's made, Neo-Viper has been consistently level-headed and refused to rise to the bait placed before him. However, that, combined with his low numbers of posts, makes him look like he's doing his best to a) stay under the radar and b) not do anything stupid when he's actually on the radar. Sort of the way I intended to play, only I intended to not stay off the radar at all. The addition of lurking is what worries me.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:11 am

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Got my prod, re-reading now. Hoping to get something up very soon.

Also, limited to no access until monday.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:38 am

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Ok, the only things that I have time to say right now are that Peers's reactions have been iffy, and I don't like his "case" on neo-viper. Staying level-headed is what you need to do in this game. Also, there's multiple reasons to stay under the radar. That's about all I can say right now before I have to leave for vacation.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:26 am

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It's not really a case so much as I'm pointing out he's not playing like a majority of the people in the game. If I had a case, I'd be voting.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:43 pm

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Peers wrote:
Erg0 wrote:Peers: are you just trying really hard to act casual in order to avoid your apparent "flipping out under pressure" meta? If so, you'd be much better off being useful rather than being cool.
Well, I've already partially flipped out, and it hasn't done me any good, so.

Personally? I've given my reasons for my vote... and MoS has slowly moved up the list. You don't see me voting for A.B.R. even though he's got a tendency to suck the fun out of the game, because every once in a while he actually posts something intelligent (it could be random coincidence, but heck... if there can be games where I agree with BM, anything can happen and policy lynches are bad).
That's the difference. ABR occasionally posts something intelligent.
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:Also, it's a bit more than just a policy lynch. I don't have
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Although you may hate TS, this is not a protown thing to do, if we went through with it, and TS was town, we'd just waste a lynch wouldn't we?
Albert B. Rampage wrote:MoS is a jester. Vig him tonight plz.
What's with the Jester obsession? Why can't MoS be a badly playing scum?
Why can't MoS be a pissed off protown?

Odd that you would limit your questioning in such a fashion that restricts me to being an antitown player only...
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Why is everyone assuming I'm a Jester? It's kinda weird that it already popped up this early in the game, just because I made a policy vote on Day 1. What's the big deal? DGB/TS is a liability to the town, so eliminating her helps us. I don't really see how this at all indicates that I am some sort of diabolical Jester trying to get lynched. And yes I know that this ridiculous matter was started by ABR and should therefore be completely disregarded. However, it
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:10 pm

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You're full of crap. You said that its too early to have any good leads, which you know is B.S.

Then why are you saying things you know are silly ?
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:19 pm

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Hmm? How is it BS, and how would I know this?
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