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Post Post #2600 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:57 pm

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Aquanim is the best bet for the last scum here.
no way Creature guilties his partners
twice
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Post Post #2601 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:58 pm

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The lynches:

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Gamma Emerald
[LYNCHED]: Grapevine, Mathblade, Dunnstral, Aquanim(House), Pantherpunt, lane0168, SlySly"

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Stargazers
[LYNCHED]: Creature, lane0168, SlySly, Dunnstral, Not Chara(GuiltyLion), Grapevine, Aquanim(House)"

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Pantherpunt
[LYNCHED]: Creature, Grapevine, Aquanim(House), SlySly, Dunnstral, Creature"

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Post Post #2602 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:59 pm

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VCA is less useful here. both of the scum were caught with cop guilties. their team would have bussed.
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Post Post #2603 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:02 pm

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Would Aquanim hammer Stargazer and jump on the quick lynch of Panther if he was buddies with them?
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Post Post #2604 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:03 pm

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Yea.
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Post Post #2605 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:04 pm

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yes, i just said that.
no scum would protect a guiltied buddy at L-1, and there was also no reason not to lynch Panther with that guilty.
look at House's play, and look at Aquanim's lack of play and reads. that slot is scum.
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Post Post #2606 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:10 pm

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the only hangups i have here are Creature not being targeted by scum for the kill.

assuming Aquanim is the last scum (or second to last? i'm not clear on if one can expect 4 scum in a 13 player game), then grapevine was telling the truth about killing Infinity. so scum targeted Mathblade... that makes no sense, they didn't roleblock Creature, and they didn't try to kill him. why not?
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Post Post #2607 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:12 pm

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I don't think Aquanim would hammer a partner and then help with a quick lynch of her remaining partner. Not buying it. Nor am I assuming there is just one remaining scum.
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Post Post #2608 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:17 pm

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throwing away that assumption, i still wonder why Creature isn't dead, if grapevine is telling the truth.
Aquanim is a 'he', by the way.

there isn't any reason
not
to hammer Stargazers there. Aquanim would have fallen under fire immediately for not lynching Stargazers, who was already doomed, at that point.
helping with a quick lynch on another guiltied partner is also nothing different from that.

so, at
best
, both of those actions are NAI. now look at Aquanim's play, and his lack of reads. he's asking questions to look busy, and that about sums up his play. the only reads he's given were ones that he put no weight behind, and couldn't answer me about when i asked. he just threw them together.
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Post Post #2609 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:20 pm

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In post 2608, Not Chara wrote:i still wonder why Creature isn't dead
I skipped the night if you didn't notice
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Post Post #2610 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:22 pm

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not that night. the night where Infinity and Mathblade were killed.
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Post Post #2611 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:23 pm

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Not Chara has sent a message to Aquanim.
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2612 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:24 pm

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see .
i want to get the items Aquanim has, if any, before the lynch.
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Post Post #2613 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:36 pm

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In post 2608, Not Chara wrote: there isn't any reason
not
to hammer Stargazers there. Aquanim would have fallen under fire immediately for not lynching Stargazers, who was already doomed, at that point.
helping with a quick lynch on another guiltied partner is also nothing different from that.
combine them and it's the method of team suicide. i'm not buying it.
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Post Post #2614 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:39 pm

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if you believe there are more than 3 scum, it isn't suicide.
and even then: i don't think you understand how bad a choice it is to fight a lynch on a guiltied partner. they're
going
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Post Post #2615 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:40 pm

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I hacked an Android from Pantherpunt. It lets me make someone loved for a single day.
Not amazingly useful, but it could serve some purpose.

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Post Post #2616 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:42 pm

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that seems more useful for scum than town. i can't think of a reason for it to be used here.

why do you think Creature was able to make another investigation, Varsoon?
also, why did you kill Infinity after i made it very clear how likely he was to be town?
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Post Post #2617 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:52 pm

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It is useful. We can lynch two people today and we're at 8 alive from the blackout
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Post Post #2618 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:54 pm

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There were two androids though
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Post Post #2619 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:54 pm

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loved, not lovers. loved is the opposite of hated, it makes a player take one more vote to lynch.
unless i misunderstood. Varsoon?

if it's lovers, that's useful, yes.
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Post Post #2620 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:55 pm

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Oh

Not very useful to have then
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Post Post #2621 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:56 pm

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In post 2614, Not Chara wrote:if you believe there are more than 3 scum, it isn't suicide.
and even then: i don't think you understand how bad a choice it is to fight a lynch on a guiltied partner. they're
going
to get lynched whether you bus them or not.
you don't have to fight it. you don't have to participate either. there's a million ways to act like you're in support of something but more focused on something "more pressing."

see, panther didn't have to jump on the wagon. no one called him out for that specifically, unless i'm forgetting something.
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Day 2 Vote Count 2.05


Stargazers [LYNCHED]: Creature, lane0168, SlySly, Dunnstral, Not Chara, Grapevine, Aquanim

SlySly (L-6): Stargazers

Not Voting (4): Mathblade, Pantherpunt, Expedience, Infinity324,

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Post Post #2622 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:58 pm

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I'm sure infinity or mathblade would have hammered if aquanim hadn't.
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Post Post #2623 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:00 pm

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forget it, you aren't listening.
both Stargazers and Panther were as good as lynched after they were guiltied. it wouldn't have mattered if Aquanim had helped or not. i'm not arguing about this anymore.

pedit: that is... literally exactly what i'm saying.
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Post Post #2624 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:01 pm

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i'm not forgetting they were guiltied. guiltied or not, if i'm scum, i'm makin the town do as much as the work as possible. squirming through the heat is better when your friends are still alive with you.
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