Mini 1836: Space Mafia (Game Over)

Toto · Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:42 am

Hey, not much has happened. Answering to pseudo-prod.

I'm looking at past games to see if I find some statistics about P(roleblocker | encryptor, tracker, vigilante, friendly neighbour)

Zachstralkita · Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:27 pm

Yoo my fault

Xkfyu · Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:29 pm

In post 2071, Something_Smart wrote:[And there was much rejoicing.]

yay

I approve this reference.

PantherPunt · Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:33 pm

Hey hi do whatever I'll check in tomorrow if day is still going

Naomi-Tan · Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:04 pm

Im catching up right now. but I got a question for Zach. I would like you to research a Red!X and Red!Massive connection while I read up and post the results. I am also starting to get suspicious of massive and I still think X is red from yesterday. So.. could you do some leg work while I read up thanks.

grapes · Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:11 pm

I've been prodded wow where does the time go.

Everybody's thoughts on a toto lynch?

I'd compromise on gerry.

Dunnstral · Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:21 pm

In post 2075, Toto wrote:I'm looking at past games to see if I find some statistics about P(roleblocker | encryptor, tracker, vigilante, friendly neighbour)

There is no encryptor; it's mechanical daytalk

PantherPunt · Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:35 pm

Involved in home community game beginning tomorrow 12 hour days just sayin

TwoFace · Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:48 pm

In post 2081, Dunnstral wrote:There is no encryptor; it's mechanical daytalk

This. If there was encryptor we wouldn't be told scum had daytalk.

TwoFace · Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:21 pm

In post 2075, Toto wrote:Hey, not much has happened. Answering to pseudo-prod.

I'm looking at past games to see if I find some statistics about P(roleblocker | encryptor, tracker, vigilante, friendly neighbour)

why? spend time on this game.

until we get a scum flip, you are speculating for the sake of speculating and you have nothing to speculate about.

Toto · Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:29 pm

In post 2083, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2081, Dunnstral wrote:There is no encryptor; it's mechanical daytalk
This. If there was encryptor we wouldn't be told scum had daytalk.

I understand this. My point was that encryptor = daytalk for the purposes of game balance. So I'm looking at similar setups.

Regarding solving the game, I'm trying to understand if it is likely that we have a roleblocker or not. If we have a roleblocker then I agree that it is likely that they would have roleblocked Dunn, however, again, I think it's important to understand how likely it is that we are in that scenario.

In term of who I find scummy Grapes is still at the top of the list. They keep pushing my lynch without asking questions, answering my questions or trying to game solve.

PantherPunt · Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:49 pm

Toto isn't scum doods I'll keep saying it

Dunnstral · Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:55 pm

What are we doing

and why have we grinded to a halt

Dunnstral · Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:59 pm

In post 2068, gerryoat wrote:At least we still have a week to figure it out. I'm gonna unvote for now but I still think I'll end up voting Dunn

UNVOTE: dunn

How's that figuring out thing coming along for you

Or were you not talking about yourself

TwoFace · Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:56 pm

In post 2085, Toto wrote:I understand this. My point was that encryptor = daytalk for the purposes of game balance. So I'm looking at similar setups.

If you understood that, you wouldn't be looking for stepups with encryptor. It is 100% fact this game doesn't have an encryptor which means yes it's possible mafia has a roleblocker.

TwoFace · Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:57 pm

In post 2087, Dunnstral wrote:What are we doing

and why have we grinded to a halt

I'm waiting for people to realize gerry is a good lynch

Toto · Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:45 am

In post 2089, TwoFace wrote:It is 100% fact this game doesn't have an encryptor

It is also a 100% fact that mafia has daytalk. Since I'm assuming encryptor = daytalk then I don't see a problem with this. Are you trying to say my assumption is wrong? if so, why?

You haven't even seen my conclusion yet and you are already defending the fact that mafia has roleblockers. Why?

Xkfyu · Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:53 am

In post 2089, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2085, Toto wrote:I understand this. My point was that encryptor = daytalk for the purposes of game balance. So I'm looking at similar setups.
If you understood that, you wouldn't be looking for stepups with encryptor. It is 100% fact this game doesn't have an encryptor which means yes it's possible mafia has a roleblocker.

It was be possible even with an Encryptor.

Xkfyu · Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:56 am

In post 2091, Toto wrote:
In post 2089, TwoFace wrote:It is 100% fact this game doesn't have an encryptor
It is also a 100% fact that mafia has daytalk. Since I'm assuming encryptor = daytalk then I don't see a problem with this. Are you trying to say my assumption is wrong? if so, why?

You haven't even seen my conclusion yet and you are already defending the fact that mafia has roleblockers. Why?

It really doesn't matter what your conclusion is because, as of right now, you can't reasonably predict whether or not scum have a Roleblocker.

The Encryptor and Roleblocker roles are completely independent of one another. The fact that scum have day talk has exactly zero bearing on whether or not they have a Roleblocker.

You are wasting your time.

TwoFace · Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:00 am

In post 2091, Toto wrote:
In post 2089, TwoFace wrote:It is 100% fact this game doesn't have an encryptor
It is also a 100% fact that mafia has daytalk. Since I'm assuming encryptor = daytalk then I don't see a problem with this. Are you trying to say my assumption is wrong? if so, why?

You haven't even seen my conclusion yet and you are already defending the fact that mafia has roleblockers. Why?

yes your assumption is wrong. There is no encryptor in this game at all. Daytalk is part of the game setup and not because of some role.

If this game had an encryptor, we would not be told that mafia has daytalk.

you literally said you understood but clearly you don't

TwoFace · Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:01 am

In post 2092, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 2089, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2085, Toto wrote:I understand this. My point was that encryptor = daytalk for the purposes of game balance. So I'm looking at similar setups.
If you understood that, you wouldn't be looking for stepups with encryptor. It is 100% fact this game doesn't have an encryptor which means yes it's possible mafia has a roleblocker.
It was be possible even with an Encryptor.

yes I know, just trying to get his mind off looking for setups with an encryptor in it since we know 100% this game doesn't have one.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:38 am

In post 2079, Naomi-Tan wrote:Im catching up right now. but I got a question for Zach. I would like you to research a Red!X and Red!Massive connection while I read up and post the results. I am also starting to get suspicious of massive and I still think X is red from yesterday. So.. could you do some leg work while I read up thanks.

When I get home I got u

Nosferatu · Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:12 am

picking up prod, might have time to ask naomi about her xkf scumread

Nosferatu · Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:12 am

*when I get home

massive · Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:51 am

Back and catching up.