Newbie 1752: Wave - Game Over

[CloudKicker]

When i actually think about it this is screaming scum to me VOTE: blake

[Creature]

VOTE: Blake

[Creature]

L-2 btw

[Creature]

"experienced pretending to be a newbie" is bad

[CloudKicker]

Also, his whole post is about scum pov, literraly. Its like he just outed his scum train of thoughts

[Drone]

What made you make a move, Creature?
Agreeing with Cloud?

[Creature]

"experienced pretending to be a newbie" is bad

[Drone]

Oh well.
Where's the whole game roster?

[Creature]

I don't make full readslists, I just take my stances.

[Hellfire Missile]

so why couldn't i connect to the site? Problem on my end or the website's?

[Hellfire Missile]

In order to read you have to think, if i'm town/scum, what would i do/post. Rightttt?

[Drone]

@Creature
I didn't ask for a full read, I was asking where's everybody lol

[Creature]

Don't worry, everybody had the same problem as you.

[Drone]

Was that towards me...?

[grapes]

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT 08

Drone (3):

Raskolnikov, Tenshii, Blakebtb23

Blakebtb23 (3):

Drone, Cloudkicker, Creature

Cloudkicker (1):

Desmond

Not Voting (2):

Charloux, Hellfire Missile

With 9 votes in play, 5 are needed to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-11-07 23:00:02)

lifelike - so electric

Cloudkicker is V/LA until 11/1

[Blakebtb23]

Also, his whole post is about scum pov, literraly. Its like he just outed his scum train of thoughts

Yes of course I outed scum train of thoughts because as town you should know how scum would think, I'm not sure how you saying that outing scum thoughts is scummy makes any sense at all, it is very towny to try to figure out what the mafia would be thinking

[Blakebtb23]

"experienced pretending to be a newbie" is bad

What do you mean by "is bad"? That read has been me and cloud's suspicion on hellfire all game

[Blakebtb23]

Very very analitycal, his approach is kinda neutral but sounds towny, he talks a lot about town pov. His content is fine, his tone can go both ways, he also outed wierd posts overall hes not scummy but i wouldnt be surprised if he was mafia at all. The drone push is bad too, only rask's vote on drone was genuine and had legit motives. UNVOTE:

I dont think anyone understand that hellfire is getting lynched this game, he is never going to be night killed this scummy no reads and a vanilla claim on L-1

Hmm now that I think about it, if hellfire is a vanilla townie, scum would want to keep him in the game and not lynch him tonight because
1. he is a vanilla townie, mafia can pressure a potential pr player to be lynched/claim role today instead
2. They know he is a vanilla town so they can never nightkill him and get a better shot at killing a pr player
3. Due to the possibility that hellfire is a experienced player pretending to be newbie, scum knows that hellfire will most likely be lynched eventually and they can let the other townies do that work some day in the future.

So if this is correct we can look at who is protecting hellfire because i think it would be in scum's interest to protect hellfire whether he is town or scum.
Rask and drone both protected him. I think in rask's case rask was a town that got the read off hellfire's plea that he is also town, and then accused drone because she had a genuine read on him being mafia.

Alternatively, Hellfire is a very experienced scum and is playing a character, I agree with cloud that we should not rule out this possibility yet.
As of now I would be fine with lynching hellfire if we don't have a strong mafia read, because I believe there is a legit (~35%) chance that he is scum, but I would rather try to lynch a different mafia that we are more sure about

Like honestly, this post is textbook mafia. I kinda didnt realize since i was focused on hellfire/desmond

So your stance completely flipped after reading one post? Explain how that post is textbook mafia because instead of a towny post, because that claim makes zero sense to me right now

[Creature]

Okay, I noticed it.

UNVOTE:

[Tenshii]

Like honestly, this post is textbook mafia. I kinda didnt realize since i was focused on hellfire/desmond

What is "textbook mafia" about it?

[Raskolnikov]

Okay, I noticed it.

UNVOTE:

??

[Raskolnikov]

Let's wagon this for fun
VOTE: desmond

[Raskolnikov]

oh I'm sorry it's a newbie game.

I got towntells from most players but I don't know much about desmond. His post showed he's not quite new-new too and I don't consider the bar as low for him as others, although it's not really fair suspecting people on BoP that's how it is.

Also to remember, that effort he made was made in response to cloud; when it wasn't about him he was kind of just fence-sitting on hellfire and less involved. Not a surefire tell but it's interesting.

[Creature]

I thought he was Desmond_13

[Hellfire Missile]

I think the problem that i'm having is that i've never played as mafia, and so I don't know how they think... Sorry for any misspells i have like a inch of dead pixels on my screen and too lazy to get fixed