The Thing Mafia - Game over!

[drealmerz7]

scummiest!

[drealmerz7]

EBWOP

*scummiest! (2824)*

:þ

[Tammy]

ah boo!

[PeregrineV]

As of right now, this is what I'm doing.

3. The Living Quarters can serve as a control room for the Room Block now that we know how it actually works. PeregrineV blocks the LQ, and those players get dumped into the Radio Room.

[PeregrineV]

But, if your plan is to last one more day

What use would "one more day" be to me if I were scum since I'd be losing my shot anyway???

It makes no sense

If you don't plan on scumhunting and then shooting scum, why bother picking the vig?

[PeregrineV]

Battery dying, back to phone...

[Fire Assassin]

I find this extremely amusing since you're also voting and scum reading me.

How is this amusing? I assumed that Toog was soft bussing you during the day.

[Fire Assassin]

I think mcmenno has higher chance of flipping town, not sure on Goatmeal though they are still in my scum radar.
I also think creature, dreal and Tammy are scum

You mentioned him today!

Can you talk about why mcmenno has a higher chance of flipping town?

I don't particularly care for your scum reads, but I am interested in your mcmenno read since you guys hydra.

Oh no wait, I am interested in your creature read.

I would be lying if I said I knew the difference between town or scum him.
He seems more interested in trolling as scum though, and I haven't seen any of that here, so thats in his favor.

[Fire Assassin]

I have very very quickly skimmed and am heading out so I can't really post right this minute, but I'd really really like for this lynch to not go through until I get back and can properly catch up and do a couple things I wanted to do. I will be back to do that later today.

Wraith - Technically I could have made the kill because I could have used the strong man since we were in the same room, but lol at anyone who thinks I'm scum - FA looking at you. Since I didn't, it's still in place, but technically I could have. (Also, I thought MoI scum slipped about the strongman in the same room info, but it's in the op so I'm dumb.) Anyway just wanted that there for sake of completeness.

I'll be back later, please don't go to night yet. Thank you!

So you wouldn't make that kill? WHat does that have to do with you being scum, and why would scum use strongman over regular kill?

[PeregrineV]

Please elaborate on who you being able to move someone would help your scum-hunting. I’m very curious as to your answer.

Also – who are your scum reads after flips today?
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I think it COULD help scumhunting, mine and in general, moreso than outright telling what I'll do does. I think it could mess with scum a bit, if they're planning things based on the plan (how can they not be?), maybe an unforeseen messup can flesh out some behaviors that otherwise would be able to be camouflaged because of the pre-awareness. I see potential advantages to non-disclosure, and not really any strong advantages to disclosure. I understand wanting the vig. away from certain roles, but, I think doing too much could put a stranglehold on discovering as much as fast as we could otherwise. Id' like things a bit looser (or at least to consider them without feeling ostricized):

let mcmenno do what he wants, if he kills a townie, let him defend/explain his actions and decisions and kill if we really don't buy him being town - or, let me decide to try and put him in a room where I think he is least harmful or least likely to shoot someone, and then let me explain that if needed afterwards

and similar things with other roles and placements

as for reads, I've got some, my top scumread is PV

I find it hard to believe that the first choice of the scum team was the doctor role.
I find it pretty easy to believe the first choice of the scumteam is additional killing power.
4th round Yakko taking doctor as the first scum pick?
Doubtful.

I disagree wholly. I think it makes absolute sense to pick doctor role scum, especially that early in the draft, especially more than it makes sense for town to pick that early in the draft. Scum gets it and they can absolutely guarantee to protect fellowscum (even if it is useless, but if the vig is town, scum try to put doc in room with him for insurance), guarantee no townies will ever be protected from anything. To me, that is uber for scum this setup.
Town gets doc and they likely spend the game protecting all their targets from nothing, because scum simply doesn't kill in the doc's room.

Reversely. I think Things are less likely to pick vig. because 1.) town fears vig misfires already, why increase heat by picking it? (I know wifom, but it is still how I would view it as scum), 2.) if they let town have it town either doesn't use it out of fear or kills townie, yay for Things 3.) the 1 for 1 trade is no good for scum, who are they going to take out that it really matters? no 1 role is making or breaking the game., 4.) why do they even need it? they have factional kills and mislynches aplenty to count on, again, just too much heat, imo.

PV also spent a lot of effort in the kennels doing poop as far as I saw it. Lots and lots of quote posts about TOOG associations with almost zero case-making against anyone or defending anyone (but lots of implication-making and shade-throwing to be interpreted how we want.) I specifically asked him, with all the digging and reading he apparently did, if he had come to any confident positions about anything, and got a "not really, just strings to follow into the next Day" sort of answer. Seems like a lot of fake effort (more) and leaving himself open to throw doubt and vote in whichever directions are convenient.

TL;DR (learn to read)

Lol... Seriously?

[PeregrineV]

hey now

he reposted a votecount and colored my name in green and then never really explained what that meant even though we asked him like four times

give him a LITTLE credit

I think I did. You should go double check.

[PeregrineV]

Empty post

[Untrod Tripod]

Uh

No you didn't. You said "oh I was gonna, but then I forgot"

[Untrod Tripod]

Then you posted the role list and player list and the player list combined with draft picks

[PeregrineV]

Uh

No you didn't. You said "oh I was gonna, but then I forgot"

I was gonna look at the Toog wagon composition. But ran out of time

[PeregrineV]

Then you posted the role list and player list and the player list combined with draft picks

That was covered here in 2667.

[Untrod Tripod]

I'm dumb show me using colors

[drealmerz7]

paint by numbers in the desolate north!

it keeps us happy!

the booze help too

and the happy pills

[SpyreX]

I'm dumb show me using colors

That's how we got into this mess

[Creature]

So nightplan's decided?

[Wraith]

Room Capacity is 1/3 of the living players. N2 will be 6, after Goatmeal is lynched.

Laboratory:

Tammy, Andrius, Magna, Spiffeh, Errant, MariaR

Rec Room:

Wraith, Menno, 1SVT

Kitchen:

EMPTY

Kennels:

UTree, SpyreX, Transcend, Skybird, PeregrineV, DT

Living Quarters:

Creature, drealmerz7, Fire Assassin

Radio Room:

EMPTY

Infirmary:

EMPTY

Requests:
>DT into the Lab. This would require one of the Neighbors to not be in the Lab.

Actions

1a. drealmerz Redirects McMenno to the Rec Room
1b. PeregrineV Room Blocks the Living Quarters
2. Trascend Quarantines ???
3. Spiffeh Commute Decision
4. SpyreX Roleblocks ???
5. drealmerz DOES NOT Bus Drive
6. MoI Sabotages ???
7. Andrius Jailkeeps ???
8. Creature Locks Down Kennels
9. MariaR Protects Errant
10. DT Transfer Decision
11. Wraith Shoots McMenno
12. Scum Nightkill
13. Skybird Vends to a Neighbor
14. Errant Watches Laboratory

*I'm fine with the ??? people using their discretion, with the caveats of don't block people known to be performing an action.

Anyone have any objections or further requests to this?

[drealmerz7]

I object to #12

[Creature]

No objections.

[Creature]

How much do you value my role?

[Wraith]

How much do you value my role?

A lot. I realized too late that we should've used it better last night. We can use it to eliminate suspects for being the night shooter.