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Post Post #2950 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:44 am

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If it is a commuter massive had more reason to commute than xk. Although both of them were potential vigi targets.

@mod can a mafia commuter kill and commute on the same night?
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Post Post #2951 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:54 am

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In post 2950, Toto wrote:If it is a commuter massive had more reason to commute than xk. Although both of them were potential vigi targets.

@mod can a mafia commuter kill and commute on the same night?
In post 1, Something_Smart wrote:16. Mafia members may kill and use a personal action in the same night.
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Post Post #2952 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:04 am

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@mod to be perfectly clear in hypothetical sandbox scenario mafia commuter commutes and targets player1 for a kill. Assuming there is no protection or any other mechanic affecting player1 or the mafia player, would player1 die?
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Post Post #2953 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:05 am

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In post 2952, Toto wrote:@mod to be perfectly clear in hypothetical sandbox scenario mafia commuter commutes and targets player1 for a kill. Assuming there is no protection or any other mechanic affecting player1 or the mafia player, would player1 die?
Yes.
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Post Post #2954 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:19 am

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VOTE: zach
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Post Post #2955 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:20 am

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Toto explain to me how you derived zachscum from what you just learned from that.
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Post Post #2956 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:21 am

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In post 2945, Xkfyu wrote:I'm not interested in lynching Xk. Feels like a mislynch.
Can we expect some gamesolving soon?
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Post Post #2957 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:29 am

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In post 2955, grapes wrote:Toto explain to me how you derived zachscum from what you just learned from that.
Dunn jk zach why him and not any PR or his buddies?

I thought that no kill meant commuter. And dunn jk zach who could just commute away didnt make sense.
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Post Post #2958 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:50 am

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Why does a commuter make it make sense why there wasn't a scumkill?

Why does a scumteam with a jailkeeper need a commuter?
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Post Post #2959 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:55 am

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In post 2958, grapes wrote:Why does a commuter make it make sense why there wasn't a scumkill?

Why does a scumteam with a jailkeeper need a commuter?
1) I thought it did make sense because I expected the answer to my question to the mod to be "no". Intuitively it made sense because the guy is leaving town so how the hell is he going to kill anyone at night.

2) It makes sense to me with all the other roles we have. We have 5 PRs, mafia probably has two.
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Post Post #2960 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:07 pm

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Your basis falls apart when u realize I'm not scum
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Post Post #2961 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:14 pm

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Only way we can suspect if a commuter role exsist is to find out if the vig had shots left and used one and a no kill happened. Don't really think it's s good time for the vig to claim yet cause we have numbers on our side. It's a very small chance scum wins this but not impossible.
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Post Post #2962 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:35 pm

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If vig had shots left and used them and nobody died I expect a claim. It makes it a 1v1 in that situation and we can secure the win.

So my guess is that he didn't have shots left, didn't fire, or he hasn't reported yet.
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Post Post #2963 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:44 pm

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If he didn't have shots we aren't dealing with a scum commuter.

So what I want to talk about is dunn's jk that 2nd night. He didn't block claimed body guard. He didn't block me.

So what do you think he was trying to do?
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Post Post #2964 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:47 pm

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Yeah I understand commuter is less likely now given mod clarification.

Zach was at l-1. Vig killed maria n1 who was also at l-1. Dunn was trying to save zach.
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Post Post #2965 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:49 pm

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Good point. But Dunn had to know he was getting shot as that was what the plan was.
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Post Post #2966 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:52 pm

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Yeah I see that point as a counter argument. How was Dunn the public plan though? I was actually glad and surprised that was what happened
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Post Post #2967 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:55 pm

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From my point of view vig was going to shoot dunn or zach most likely. Why not jk naomi and kill you or gerry? They really traded off a lot to save zach.
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Post Post #2968 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:57 pm

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In post 2964, Toto wrote:Yeah I understand commuter is less likely now given mod clarification.

Zach was at l-1. Vig killed maria n1 who was also at l-1. Dunn was trying to save zach.
Scum knew that twoface had a role that would, in the event of dunn's death, tell us exactly who he targeted.
And it sounds weird but the way things were going zach was a good vig shot, why not try and frame him and also possibly get the vig to out after shooting zach and him not dying if he did indeed predict a shot there

keeps a distraction alive or at the very least makes zach look bad if he gets shot

i mean yea if zach's scum then that's who dunn tries to save as well but it's also not a bad place to block in the dark either if he's town is what im saying

i really think it's either just xk/massive

you guys look like you're overthinking things a lot here
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Post Post #2969 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:58 pm

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U guys are reaching..
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Post Post #2970 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:59 pm

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In post 2966, Toto wrote:Yeah I see that point as a counter argument. How was Dunn the public plan though? I was actually glad and surprised that was what happened
It was discussed during the day phase. That was how we were going to prove he was neighbor :lol:
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Post Post #2971 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:01 pm

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In post 2967, Toto wrote:From my point of view vig was going to shoot dunn or zach most likely. Why not jk naomi and kill you or gerry? They really traded off a lot to save zach.
Yeah that's the part I don't get
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Post Post #2972 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:45 pm

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Gerry was not supposed to die. They wanted to blame zach being alive to vig getting rbed maybe.
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Post Post #2973 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:49 pm

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Nah that doesnt make sense
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Post Post #2974 (ISO) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:59 pm

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In post 2972, Toto wrote:Gerry was not supposed to die. They wanted to blame zach being alive to vig getting rbed maybe.
Gerry died because he blocked scum

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