Mafia 73: NEGWLTWWWTKY - Abandoned!

[Peers]

Peers does not seem good, actually. Peers just can't prove it because there's nothing to base a case off of anyone else right now.

[Elmo]

*psst*, Peers, tip: when people unvote you, don't argue with them...

[Peers]

Hrm. Peers is apparently paranoid due to elsegame happenings. Peers misread that as 'Vote: Peers', not 'Unvote -- Peers seems good'.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I've hardly been pushing the lynch vehemently. I made my vote, people questioned it, and I explained myself. There was nothing vehement about it.

You're just throwing around smoke and flames, Jordan.

Unvote, Vote: Jordan

So, um...why, exactally, are you voting for him?

For throwing around smoke and flames. It seems like Jordan is just trying to kick up dust and cast suspicion on people, supporting whichever wagons seem the easiest to push.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Quagmire, depending on the other pieces in the puzzle, could be scum. If peers is scum, It could mean MoS is scum and TS is town. This could very well mean quag is either playing poorly or is giving MoS the benefikt of the doubt due to tenure.

Right now, that's what I see of quag, He is voting TS due to him knowing MoS for a long while. That doesn't stop im from being advantageuous scum voting for whoever in the arguement of two towns.

The biggest thing to me is peers lynch. I would like an alignment to go off of before we continue discussing MoS TS and Quag.

Since when are Quag and I friends? I find it hard for you to come to that conclusion considering the fact that Quag and I have been at personal odds for the last several months due to various issues around the forum. You and TS both seem to have come to this conclusion with no supporting evidence.

[Toaster Strudel]

Clues are too iffy. What if we don't find them? What if we think we found some, rely on those, when in fact there aren't any? What if there are some, and we misinterpret them?

I want Shanba's results.

[Toaster Strudel]

^^^^
Never mind the above post, it belongs to another game. Sorry.

[Toaster Strudel]

I've hardly been pushing the lynch vehemently. I made my vote, people questioned it, and I explained myself. There was nothing vehement about it.

You're just throwing around smoke and flames, Jordan.

Unvote, Vote: Jordan

So, um...why, exactally, are you voting for him?

For throwing around smoke and flames. It seems like Jordan is just trying to kick up dust and cast suspicion on people, supporting whichever wagons seem the easiest to push.

Again I recomment that everyone take a look at Jordan's posts in isolation. Is Jordan throwing around smoke and flames? No. Is he kicking supporting whichever wagon is easiest to push??? Absolutely not. As far as I can see, Jordan'ts only sin is to find MoS suspicious, and voting for MoS.

I strongly recommend that players take a look at Jordan's contribution, and come to their own conclusion as to whether MoS's accusations have any truth to them.

[Toaster Strudel]

Sikario8 has been active in other games this morning. Is he deliberately ignoring this one?

Today too, Sikario8 continues to post in other games and ignore this one. I hope there is a good explanation.

[Sikario8]

WHATTA YOU WANT ME TO DO? BOAST MY IGNORANCE?!?

I'M DOING A HALF-ASSED JOB IN THE OTHER GAMES AND, IF I WERE TO CONTRIBUTE ON DEMAND, I'D DO A HALF-ASSED JOB IN THIS ONE AS WELL!

I remember from the last time that I was paying attention to this game that I didn't like Yosar; however, with recent happenings and a death in teh fucking family, I've FORGOTTEN WHY. Allow me to go back and refresh myself and I'll get back to you, otay?

[Toaster Strudel]

...however, with recent happenings and a death in teh fucking family, I've FORGOTTEN WHY.

That's reason enough. I am sorry. I had no idea. I hope you have a sound support system, and people that can lean on each other in times of need. Take care.

[Sikario8]

hmm...

you know what, it's okay. death shouldn't penetrate one's sanity.

and, er, why did...toaster...goof...?

[Quagmire]

yeah DGB can you please either have an alt or not have an alt?

[hasdgfas]

...however, with recent happenings and a death in teh fucking family, I've FORGOTTEN WHY.

Sikario, all you had to do was say that. I mean, we're still just playing a game here and obviously your family and you as a person are more important than this game we're in. I completely understand your situation and I hope you get through it all right. I wish you the best.

Back to the game, I have returned from my vacation and am re-reading to try to get a handle on things.

[Elmo]

Again I recomment that everyone take a look at Jordan's posts in isolation. Is Jordan throwing around smoke and flames? No. Is he kicking supporting whichever wagon is easiest to push??? Absolutely not. As far as I can see, Jordan'ts only sin is to find MoS suspicious, and voting for MoS.

I strongly disagree. I would politely suggest your reaction to MoS may be influencing your view of Jordan's actions. He certainly does push the (very easy) Peers wagon until it's clear it's not going to a lynch, which is the only significant one thus far. What is your opinion on 146 and 333?

Sikario8: My condolences.

Unvote

.

Vote

:

JordanA24

, anyway.

[Toaster Strudel]

Again I recomment that everyone take a look at Jordan's posts in isolation. Is Jordan throwing around smoke and flames? No. Is he kicking supporting whichever wagon is easiest to push??? Absolutely not. As far as I can see, Jordan'ts only sin is to find MoS suspicious, and voting for MoS.

I strongly disagree. I would politely suggest your reaction to MoS may be influencing your view of Jordan's actions.

It might - but do you see "smoke and flames?" If so, where? I must have missed something. I'd like to see the throwing of smokes and flames.

As for "whichever wagon" - doesn't that imply more than one wagon? MoS might have said "Jordan picked THE easiest wagon" but whichever wagon means multiple wagons to me. If there is one easy wagon on Day 1, that's one thing; multiple wagons is quite another. Do you think Jordan was pushing one easy wagon, or a series of multiple easy wagons?

[Elmo]

I do not necessarily entirely agree with MoS. I am simply saying I found Jordan scummy (152, 301) before MoS even mentioned him. See my 152 for something I feel is out of place, which is probably the "smoke and flames" part of MoS's accusation. What I mean by this is, for example, a lot of 146 seems to be attempting to make things seem scummier than they really are.

He jumps off the Peers wagon soon after it's clear there's not going to be a lynch, and hops onto the MoS wagon in 333 for reasons I find dubious. I also find 337 (MoS pushing your lynch 'pretty damn hard') untrue, and get a feeling similar to 146 - he's playing it up because it's convenient for him to.

I do feel that he's gone from Peers (easy wagon) to MoS (easy wagon) in a largely opportunistic way. The rest is semantics.

[Toaster Strudel]

I do not necessarily entirely agree with MoS. I am simply saying I found Jordan scummy (152, 301) before MoS even mentioned him.

OK - that's valid.

[Erg0]

Normally I'd be all for a wagon on these grounds, but I've tried applying this scumtell to Jordan before and it didn't work (i.e. he was town). My meta on him goes against this behaviour being a scumtell, so I'm going to give this wagon a miss.

Peers: looks like your strategy worked.

[Sikario8]

Where is jordan in his defense?

[schismatized]

I would go as far to say that MoS is throwing around smoke and flames... And so are others. Earlier, mos was getting attacked for posting oddly and now everyones right aboard with him. jeez.

[Elmo]

People in having different viewpoints shocker.

[Peers]

Peers: looks like your strategy worked.

Strategy? What strat... erm, I mean... of course it did, it was brilliantly conceived, planned, and executed by myself, so naturally it worked... uh... pssst, what exactly did I do, again?

[Sikario8]

unvote
vote kscope

[Sikario8]

Original Roll String: 1d89

1 89-Sided Dice: (58) = 58

yea, k's scum...