Ttyll Mafia - Game Over!

[texcat]

Do we know if this is multiball or not?

[Wisdom]

no, but let's assume it isnt until there's reason to think otherwise

[White Queens]

We will have a better chance figuring that out after at least one night of kills, this is a fairly smallish large game so it is less likely but still possible.

@Wis seriously dude if you can't tell the difference by now between mara and me with as many games as you have been in with me.

PL for hydra issues is pretty lame IMO. I would rather go find scum than PL in general anyway.

VOTE: Wis

additional FoS at DS

[Wisdom]

i probably can, that's not the point

you are asking for people to guess when you could just be signing

[BTD6_maker]

I'm just waiting for the Mod to answer one question of mine about the Neighbourhoods.

VOTE: White Queens

I am in favour of pressuring White Queens to sign their posts.

[Wisdom]

i still think votes dont count yet

[texcat]

Wisdom may be able to tell the difference. And I may be able to learn the difference eventually. But I don't understand what the big deal is about signing? Is it just that you have to remember to do it? Or are you actually trying to hide something?

And I've never played in an Ircher game before, but all of his posts are in red, green, blue, and his color orange. The red, green, blue made me think this was multiball, but *shrug* who knows? And I agree, I'm not sure what good it does us at this point to be speculating about it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

hey texcat

[Vaxkiller]

Policy lynches are bad, I hated that whole exchange between Wisdom and Diamond.

Even if my vote doesn't count yet, here is mine:

VOTE: Diamond

[Wisdom]

as in, you think we're both scum, or?

[DiamondSentinel]

Policy lynches are bad, I hated that whole exchange between Wisdom and Diamond.

Even if my vote doesn't count yet, here is mine:

VOTE: Diamond

Policy lynches are very not bad, and especially on D1. There is virtually no risk to a D1 policy lynch, and if you let a player who should be PL'd live to LyLo, the likelihood is that they will lose the game for you.

[eagerSnake]

Whats up

VOTE: DiamondSentinel

[DiamondSentinel]

Hi plz no. I was trying to go this game without being the leading wagon D1, and I figured that this was the way to do it. I'm actually being productive...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hi plz no.

[Ircher]

"Ttyll's name is from another language that cannot be translated directly to English. The closest pronunciation is 'Tee-te-yol'."

Dawn 1 VC #1 (Reference Only)

drealmerz7 (1) - Copper
Vedith (0) -
BTD6_Maker (0) -
Aeronaut (0) -
Wisdom (1) - White Queens
eagersnake (0) -
texcat (0) -
ThinkBig (0) -
copper223 (0) -
Albert B. Rampage (1) - Aeronaut
Gale Wing Srock (0) -
PeregrineV (0) -
Frankjaeger (0) -
DiamondSentinel (2) - Vaxkiller, Eager
Mirhawk (0) -
Vaxkiller (0) -
White Queens (1) - BTD6_Maker
Not Voting (11) - dreal, Vedith, Wisdom, Texcat, Think, Albert, Gale, Frank, Diamond, Mirhawk, PeregrineV

Lynch Threshold

Inapplicable during this phase.

Deadline

Dawn 1 will end on November 8, 9:00 PM EST or in (expired on 2016-11-08 21:00:00).

Moderator Notes

Moderator V/LA November 11.
ThinkBig V/LA until post-election November 8.
I will track votes during Dawn, but they will reset at the start of Day 1.
Post 10 is an invalid target and was not counted.

Spoiler: Dawn 1 Voting History

BTD6_Maker : Vedith --> White Queens
Aeronaut : Albert
Copper : Dreal
Eager : Diamond
PeregrineV : Aeronaut --> (Null)
Vaxkiller : Vedith --> Diamond
White Queens : Wisdom

[Mirhawk]

I think it's good information to be out there.

No we are 2, PV.

Also in a two person neighborhood.

I think everyone went to scienceland.

[Mirhawk]

Also policy lynches are stupid, if you can't be arsed to ask Queens which of them made a particular post when it isn't clear you're just being lazy anyways.

Besides, as I said I hold both hydra players responsible for the things the other says anyways. If they really are communicating they should know what the other one meant anyways.

[Mirhawk]

my scum game is identical to my town game
and you using a multiball game for an example doesnt help; in multiball i play even more like town

also that didnt answer why I wouldnt say that as scum. If you can read me that well, you should be able to explain.

Nah. I can't really explain why I do anything. It's just a feeling that I get that's really really obvious when you are scum.

There was a reason I was hardcore pushing you in SS and it wasn't because I was also scum. In Machina you were really town. In SS, you weren't. I can't explain what either of those mean. I just know that it's a feeling I get.

This is awful. It reads as you realizing when you were pressured that you had no ground to stand on, then trying to shrug it off with levity.

[DiamondSentinel]

my scum game is identical to my town game
and you using a multiball game for an example doesnt help; in multiball i play even more like town

also that didnt answer why I wouldnt say that as scum. If you can read me that well, you should be able to explain.

Nah. I can't really explain why I do anything. It's just a feeling that I get that's really really obvious when you are scum.

There was a reason I was hardcore pushing you in SS and it wasn't because I was also scum. In Machina you were really town. In SS, you weren't. I can't explain what either of those mean. I just know that it's a feeling I get.

This is awful. It reads as you realizing when you were pressured that you had no ground to stand on, then trying to shrug it off with levity.

So, I know that it's bad, considering that the only other game that I've played with you I was scum, but this is seriously my thought process. I go off of feelings and hunches, and I find them much more accurate than the ridiculous facade people plug as "scumhunting". If scumhunting worked better than feelings and hunches, then why doesn't all scumhunting lead to the same results? If it ends up as different between different people, then why not just have everyone go with what their sub-conscience says.

[Mirhawk]

See that's an adequate and heartfelt sounding response, and maybe you do form your reads that way. But that doesn't negate the fact that it looks to me like you tried to defend your read at first, but then when you realized he wanted actual reasons you tried shrugging it off.

I also have some issue with your suggestion of a PL right out the gate. I dislike it when people do that since it could be construed as a way to avoid any actual scumhunting at the beginning of the game.

I don't have a strong read on you, but you've already done more to stand out to me then anyone else so far this game.

[Mirhawk]

I'm thinking shrimp pasta for supper. I normally don't cook shrimp into other dishes so this will be a bit on an adventure for me.

[texcat]

Let us know how the shrimp pasta turns out. Shrimp and grits used to be one of my standby recipes, but I've not tried to make shrimp pasta.

[texcat]

hey texcat

Hey! Are you scum again, or vig again?

[DiamondSentinel]

See that's an adequate and heartfelt sounding response, and maybe you do form your reads that way. But that doesn't negate the fact that it looks to me like you tried to defend your read at first, but then when you realized he wanted actual reasons you tried shrugging it off.

I also have some issue with your suggestion of a PL right out the gate. I dislike it when people do that since it could be construed as a way to avoid any actual scumhunting at the beginning of the game.

I don't have a strong read on you, but you've already done more to stand out to me then anyone else so far this game.

I dislike hydrae, and I especially dislike hydrae that refuse to sign. (Yes, I know that FB and I lied about who was posting, but going in we pretty much knew that game would be a troll game)

[Ircher]

I hope you're having fun! Bumping!