Mini 1836: Space Mafia (Game Over)

[TwoFace]

I don't like this Lylo discussion

I doubt it'll get that far unless scum really is zach

[grapes]

Toto what are your reasons for thinking that xk and massive are scum with regards to dunn/nos interactions?

How would you rank them in relation to each other? Which one is scummier and why.

Who's your third choice for scum and why?

[TwoFace]

If zach is town he's annoying. He's really not contributing at all.

[grapes]

Zach same questions.

[TwoFace]

I've tried to get people to explain why they think it's one over the other. Maybe you'll have better luck

[Toto]

I'm assuming grapes is town because you were pushing Dunn hard last minute yesterday, and most of D1.
I'm believing 2face on his role now. Unless this is some sort of crazy gambit but I don't think it is.
Panther is town because people wanted to kill him.

That leaves Xk Massive and Zach

Zach we already discussed.

That leaves Xk and Massive

I'm leaning town on Xk because he was voting dunn and nos most of D2

That leaves massive. I'm voting massive.

[grapes]

Zach we already discussed.

That leaves Xk and Massive

I'm leaning town on Xk because he was voting dunn and nos most of D2

That leaves massive. I'm voting massive.

Okay so you jived with what I put down about why I think he's town okay that's good.
Xk hard defended dunn so I'm not sure where you're getting that he was voting dunn. I'm not sure where he voted nos. Could you possibly quote where xk actually pushed for nos's lynch and explain why you think it's less likely to be a bus?

Why do you think massive is scum?

[TwoFace]

Uh xf was voting Gerry most of the day, not Dunn. D1 when Dunn was near lynch xf wasn't voting Dunn wither.
He voted nos when nobody else was. He switched to zach but that didn't happen either.

[TwoFace]

This was near deadline. Massive looks worse than xf actually but xf could still be scum distancing.

VC 2.11

gerryoat (4) - Naomi-Tan, Toto, Dunnstral, Nosferatu
Dunnstral (2) - gerryoat, grapes
Xkfyu (1)- Zachstralkita
Zachstralkita (1) - PantherPunt
Naomi-Tan (1)- massive
Nosferatu (1)- Xkfyu
grapes (1)- TwoFace

Not voting (0)- NOBODY

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

(expired on 2016-10-31 12:00:00)

Mod notes:

VOTE: dunn

I'm here.

UNVOTE: Nosferatu

VOTE: Dunnstral

I'd still prefer to lynch outside of the claims though.

Oh god both of these wagons look awful now.

The most likely scum action, given all the claims from D1, is kill pip block Dunn. Gets rid of a PR on a good player and sets up an easy mislynch on Dunn.

gerry may be rubbish for blocking a claimed PR and I still wouldn't want him in LYLO but at this point you can't lynch him. You'd have to believe he fakeclaimed AND Twoface fakeclaimed a non-normal role to support him. You may think gerry would be that bad, but I can't imagine scum-Twoface going along with that.

Two hours? I'll consolidate before that to ensure a lynch but ... Naomi anyone?

[Toto]

Also massive you need to give other reads really really soon.

Nos is probably town

, if only because of his reaction to Twoface from his catchup. I still like Toto; his posting style and whether or not he has experience he isn't claiming is NAI to me and I like his thought process.

Dunn's post about Grapes (392) feels like town as well

. I like xkyfu but it's just a small warm fuzzy.

Zach is null because I can never read this stupid Radiant Cowbells playstyle that seems to be all the rage with the kids these days.

I have no idea why Naomi (a) didn't at least OMGUS back at me when she finally decided to list out her reads or (b) why she picked Nosferatu over Maria or gerryoat who were both just as useless at the time. It could be confbias though because I am 100% convinced she is scum.

Pretty much everyone else is blah. I feel like I should have an opinion about Grapes but honestly I don't.

translation: Nos and Dunn are town. Toto is town because he says Dunn is town. Everyone else is not town.

@Grapes: This is why I think massive is scum.

[Zachstralkita]

Zach same questions.

The play of both of those players has been in such a way that partner interactions are largely irrelevant, if not useless in determining which is scum and which is more scum.

Xk - robotic and methodical in play. I do not see genuine town motivation.

massive - detached. about as detached as I am right now. Except since forever.

[Toto]

1) Massive said he'd be ok with voting gerry but then didn't. He didn't because that would leave Dunn without an excuse for roleblock next day.
2) Massive read me as town but then changed his mind last minute when Dunn was in danger.

Inconsistent reads and actions.

[Toto]

Okay so you jived with what I put down about why I think he's town okay that's good.

Dunn jking town!zach makes sort of sense because that was a likely vig target. If that happened it would add more confusion.

This was D3. I had put forth the same theory you had about town!zach before you brought that up. I just thought that while that is likely the case, there is also a chance that Dunn was just trying to protect scum!zach.

[TwoFace]

This is where a coin flip would actually come in handy lol.

[grapes]

VOTE: massive

[grapes]

mafsepia is great btw

[Zachstralkita]

mafsepia is great btw

ya if you're in 1822

[Toto]

Actually no, this is terrible.

Instead of looking at the facts, I'm just sitting here trying to reason out how Dunn can still be town, simply because I don't want to have been wrong about him this whole time.

This is actually pretty simple.

I'm pretty sure that it must still be the case that there is at least one scum in {Grapes, Gerry, Dunn}.

It's just that now, I really don't think it's Gerry. So, either Dunn or Grapes has to be our lynch today, and I'm sure the Vig is smart enough to shoot properly tonight, based on the flip.

VOTE: Dunnstral

This is why Xk is likely town in my view.

[TwoFace]

mafsepia is great btw

Disagree.

[TwoFace]

vc please

[TwoFace]

Think massive is at l-1.

Toto/xf/grapes.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: massive

bing

[TwoFace]

I really hope this is game

[PantherPunt]

see yinz next day

[Something_Smart]

VC FINAL

massive (4)- Toto, Xkfyu, grapes, Zachstralkita

(LYNCH)

Not voting (3)- PantherPunt, massive, TwoFace

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

(expired on 2016-11-19 10:00:00)

Mod notes: [/area]

15. This game is 3 mafia-aligned players versus 10 town-aligned players.

@Mod, Is SK possible in this set up? (this reads like no to me, just want to be 100% sure).

SK is not possible.

[Something_Smart is driving through some woods. Suddenly, his phone starts to ring. He pulls off into the shoulder.]

SOMETHING_SMART: Hello?

[A voice is heard, breaking up heavily.]

SOMETHING_SMART: Ari? Is that you? I can't hear a word you're saying.

[More unintelligible sounds.]

SOMETHING_SMART: Ugh, I'm gonna see if I can get a better reception.

[He starts up his car and begins driving, holding the phone to his ear. Eventually, he drives out of the woods and into a suburban neighborhood.]

ARISTOPHANES (over phone): Hello? Can you hear me now?

SOMETHING_SMART: There, that's better. What's up?

ARISTOPHANES: They killed another one.

SOMETHING_SMART: Found dead in the middle of the night?

ARISTOPHANES: No, they put it to a vote.

SOMETHING_SMART: Oh, well how did-- What the-

[Something_Smart's car hits an awful pothole. His car swerves into a ditch.]

SOMETHING_SMART: Dammit!

ARISTOPHANES: What?

SOMETHING_SMART: I'll explain later. Just sum up what happened. Give me a tl;dr, if you will.

ARISTOPHANES: They killed massive.

SOMETHING_SMART: And? Was he guilty?

massive was lynched. He was a...

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Night 4 begins now. Night actions are due in (expired on 2016-11-10 08:00:00).