Alllrighty, apologies if this stuff has already been hashed out, just catching up now.
In post 50, Accountant wrote:Here is a question for you. When you were first confronted about your inconsistency all the way in post 13, why didn't you immediately say "I apologize. I was mixing up my trains of thought and retroactively adding reasoning after seeing your post 11", rather than insisting that "there was no change of tune"?
@Accountant - I think the explanation you're suggesting NN30 should have given, while great in theory, isn't how most newbies would act (or maybe most players at all?), whether scum or town. And more to the point, how would that explanation exculpate someone? Would they not then be jumped on for admitting that they 'retroactively added reasoning'? Would giving this explanation seem sincere to you? (It doesn't to me). ((Note: I'm not town reading NN30, I just want insight in to your reasoning here).
In post 65, XnadrojX wrote:I wasn't requested to move off someone. I was questioned to why I was still on my RVS vote. We're out of RVS, he reminded me I had an RVS vote, I realised that I was still on my RVS vote, I moved off my RVS vote. Simple as that. Stop misrepresenting and twisting words. I do have a scumread on you, I'm applying more pressure to you to see if my scumread is justified, AKA whether your reaction comes to me as scummy or towny. And obviously I have done scummy things, that post is not one of them.
Ummm say what? You've done scummy things, but not the scummy thing you've been accused of? What sort of post is that?!
In post 81, nn30 wrote:His post in 64 was the most substantive thing he's done so far.
I've seen it exactly once, so you know grain of salt, but the only time someone posts a summary 'here's what happened so far' they've turned out to be scum.
The reason the summary post is scummy is because analysis is hard to do as scum (the game is already solved for you) whereas summary is easy. No pretending to analyze the game state required - just state what people have done so far and viola!
Disagree - Analysis is easy to fake as scum, precisely because you already know who to target. I'm not convinced by this line of argument at all. Moreover, I've seen the summary done as town.
In post 95, XnadrojX wrote:Just because I did something Town has no reason doing, doesn't mean I am guaranteed to be not Town. It could be just me playing the game the way I play it or that I simply made an error. This is a single scumtell and you are basing your read with high levels of confidence of off it.
I'll say this - if doing things that make no sense is your MO, it's terrible from a tactical perspective. Can you explain to me me why you would act irrationally ('do something Town has no reason doing') as town? From my POV, the best thing to do as town is to be town-read as widely as possible. It helps to form a town block, and it helps to narrow down the candidates for lynching.
It doesn't deny scum any info, since they know you're town, it just makes you more likely to be mislynched by town.
I can't see a reason for a townie to be deliberately scummy, unless they're in a situation where it's very, very important to protect a PR and getting mislynched is a way of doing that - but in D1 that's sooooo not the case.
I would not be surprised at all if you flip scum. Just going to check the vote count before I vote because I don't want to L-1 anyone while half the list has yet to post much.
