Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]

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mhsmith0 and Ircher

oh the reviewer team! They really need to make a hydra its weird I wasn't with them in this one.



~Frozen

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oh shoot we need an avatar

~Frozen

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Are we seriously Day 1 massclaiming
~Gamma(future posts by me will like be tagged GE)

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Are we seriously Day 1 massclaiming

I mean, I feel like me claiming right away made sense.

Ironstove claiming is good too I think because then we don't waste stuff on them like investigatives

Is he Ascetic or does he just return the power?

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Gamma what is the point of being on a hydra if you're gonna sign your posts???

even if Gamma doesn't sign his posts I will as thats how people like it. This is not an alt. Its a hydra

whats your problem?

oh and Gamma promised to make an avatar.

dunn how is your hated thingi transformable? its like you can give it to someone else or will it transform randomly or when you die?

#Frozen

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and I'm not in a hydra becuase I don't want people to not know its me playing or because we 2 are playing like same person. I'm playing in hydra because I will rampage when I'm solo and my general behavior in hydras are better. plus I'm busy RL with a newborn member in my family so I won't have it in myself to play solo.

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scums must have regular spells which they must pass or the game is breakable .

I wouldn't assume its just factional kill though. It might be more.

why our votes are a spell? will we loose them by targetting people at night? I'm a little confused here.

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scums must have regular spells which they must pass or the game is breakable .

I wouldn't assume its just factional kill though. It might be more.

why our votes are a spell? will we loose them by targetting people at night? I'm a little confused here.

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clarifying the second line is about dark magic

and lets ask last question from mod

@mod About he vote spell we all have and is written in sample role pm. is that transformable like other spells too?

if thats the case we all must make a plan for targetting to make sure votes won't end up in one slot

#White

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If something like a Cop or a Doc or other role were to land in scum's hands, couldn't they just pass it back and forth between themselves every night, effectively taking out a TPR? If scum cannot target scum then we can break the game by analysing all spell transfers to rule out partners so this is probably possible.

I'm going to assume there won't be any restriction on scums that make the game breakable. #The_Respect_I_Have_For_Mods

#White

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K

VOTE: ironstove

I don't like the way they entered the game. Its like scum who tried to claim a NAI utility to get towncred, intentionally. and I like to know why he tried to make a conversation about our hydra sig.

Lets start here.

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Waiting for gamma emerald to start posting before I can vote them

Already posted twice
And I had to find a suitable avvie, so chill
~GE

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I have spell-reflect, it lets me fire back the first spell that is cast on me. So CURSE YOU!

Wait


How does this work? Wouldn't it give whoever targets you the spell to reflect back other spells in exchange for what they used?

Probably shouldn't have claimed

@iron plz answer this
~GE

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Waiting for gamma emerald to start posting before I can vote them

But Gamma already posted. whats holding you back?

regarding to avatar thing that was the first time I logged in this hydra when I realized this has no avatar so argue with Gamma. shrugs.

pedit : yeah!

#Frozen

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How do we know who is town and who is mafia? Like how does Dunnstral claiming she has a curse in her book confirm her as town? Is it because mafia don't have spells?

How said Dunn is conftown?

#Frozen

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just got my new computer in time for this game lets gogogogogo

Why is your avi so cute?

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Well people are saying we shouldn't claim our spells, I'm not understanding why not?

why should we claim our spells? what is the benefit?

You just said in last post it won't confirm anything

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Who is saying we shouldnt claim spells?

they need votes

You read it vise versa or your pretending that it was vise versa

I said why is he proposing a mass spell claim when he beleives it won't confirm anything

that was a question - not me saying I'm not ok with claiming my spell. I will totally do that at L1 - maybe L2

are you proposing a mass claim?

#Frozen

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obviously I'm talking to Piss

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Ah, okay. Dunn seems to have a few votes on him already. But he scum claimed in that post I quoted.

Gamma is town. This is fairly easy already.

~G

CORRECTION: i meant Ira is town. NOT Gamma.

do you mean iron?
ira got banned.
~GE

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Ah, okay. Dunn seems to have a few votes on him already. But he scum claimed in that post I quoted.

Gamma is town. This is fairly easy already.

~G

CORRECTION: i meant Ira is town. NOT Gamma.

do you mean iron?
ira got banned.
~GE

WHY IS IRA BANNED '

~G

He was the guy who hacked the site
~GE

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Gamma's Answers.

1) What's your favorite game of mafia? What happened?

NPBR is one of my favorites I've played. It was offsite and was a 48 player large theme based on Mother 3 with multiball. I was a scum tracker and while I had fun playing my time was short, as 3 days after I replaced in I got Day-Desperado'd, thanks to me not keeping my mouth shut.

2) Do you feel like you get lynched more as town or scum? What do you think the typical reasoning is?

I'd say scum because I have a tendency to get townread for dumb shit as town.

3) Describe your mindset when playing scum. Eg. Is your main focus to towntell, to set up mislynches, to set up your partners, to bruteforce a win yourself?

I like to play with the information gap.

I do have some critiques of this RQS set though. Question 3 in particular is rather bad as it allows scum to lie about their meta.

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Bleh you misunderstand. I said anti-town, not scum-motivated. iron not claiming could have turned a scum kill back on them if we assume their factional kill is a spell (which I do because even our votes are spells). He's null to me which is why I said I dislike Frozen's vote on him.

That and the fact she's not doing as much as I expect from her.

What is the thing you expect from me?

I tried to pretend Iron spell claim was scummy to me to make him talk and he contradicted himself. I want that slot to talk - if your null reading him whats the deal?

and thanks!

Btw I'm catching up and won't answer anything new you tell before that.

#Frozen

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I don't think either Dunn or Iron's claims are particularly town. They're a balance factor that make sense as starting spells for either alignment, and there are real incentives to immediately claim them as mafia. Of all the players who have posted so far, I like, in a purely mafia-related sense, Sondam and BTD6. The person I like the least is Wisdom so

why is that though? arguably yeah both claims are NAI. Their still slots in game. whats your impression on the way their playing?

Note to the hydras: The more you post, and the less immediately pertinent it is, the less likely I (and I assume others) are to read them. Consequently, any good points you may make will be lost. Be judicious. I don't want to be snarky but I already find these first 5 pages borderline unreadable and I don't know if I can take 20-100 more pages of it without dayvigging someone.

How is the first 5 pages unreadable?

#Frozen

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arguably yeah both claims are NAI.

I mean "What they claimed" are arguably NAI. But the fact they claimed it is a part of their playing and definitely isn't.

#Frozen

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@FA Wasn't scum indicative in your case to want annoying town dead, which is what I assume Tama found scummy about your opening.

I can't understand this. what about me trying to sort Iron and see what others have to say about it is the thing you find scummy?

If thats unreasonable your either scum or your looking at my posts and misunderstand my agendas which is really really bad. In eaither case you need to directly talk about it.

#Frozen

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drealmerz7 stands apart from the group that wish to become evokers gathered in the great chamber. He watches them all, studies each of them carefully, and takes it all in. He hears them talk of spells and the trial that is upon them as if they were adolescents organizing a game of kekbal.

Evil is here, there is no question. We are served with a task and we must begin it immediately. Distractions only allow the enemy to grow it's advantage. And there is no doubt, they are at the advantage. Only the most skilled will survive, that is apparent, he just hopes that the strength of the uncorrupted will prevail over the influences of darkness.

Unobserved and in one flowing yet subtle gesture, he focuses his powers inward and then casts them outward. No words are spoken, but the impact is felt by the entire group.

VOTE: BTD6_Maker

what the hell is this. Please move on from RVS.

#Frozen

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1) What's your favorite game of mafia? What happened?

2) Do you feel like you get lynched more as town or scum? What do you think the typical reasoning is?

3) Describe your mindset when playing scum. Eg. Is your main focus to towntell, to set up mislynches, to set up your partners, to bruteforce a win yourself?

1) It was cyberpunk. I have no idea when it happened but it was when I got banned - and I couldn't finish the game which is making a void empty thingi in my heart.

2) In my 50 games of mafia I got twice lynched. one as scum in day 1 becuase RC used a RL tell to catch me and one as town in lylo becuase instead of defending myself I started insulting the other town

3) My mindset is that I'm town. I won't focus on anything. I will do what I should do and exactly reason like I'm town.

I skipped it to do it after my catchup

#Frozen

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I don't have X-Ray meta vision. My impression is that the way they've played thus far is null. Is this the objective case? No. Is this the subjective case? Certainly.

yeah

But why is pushing them to see what they will do afterward to sort them is an invalid tactic to you?

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This is pretty clearly to do with my own ideas of what good posting looks like (very subjective). What's the aim of this question? Can you give me an example of either a scummy answer or town answer?

The aim of my questions are all to achive my goal to sort you. How is that going to work with a seemingly useless question like this is "that I'm comparing your tone and stances and try to detect anomalies and contradictions" thats how I scumhuant

But in this particular case I wanted to know what about hydra posts are bothering you to be more gentle and kind and try to avoid it.

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like, wtf, your avatar is your signature, that is how I'm identify and sort you in my brain - no special treatment

who asked for any kinds of special treatment? I'm signing for whoever wants my posts to be signed. Where is this argument suddenly coming from?

#Frozen

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But why is pushing them to see what they will do afterward to sort them is an invalid tactic to you?

I never said it was. My statement was actually in response to outed townreads. Specifically, the one from Batoru:

I dunnot think dunn is scum this game

partly just for his claim, partly on tone

-tama

But in this particular case I wanted to know what about hydra posts are bothering you to be more gentle and kind and try to avoid it.

Thanks for being considerate if this is the case. I laid a more blanket "be judicious" statement on purpose, but if you're looking for something specifically I can give it. One is the constant forgetfulness of Batoru which has resulted in a clogged thread (Total they've had 36 posts). Another is the spam of Sondam. They had every post from #98 to #108 except for #101 & #104. From #98-#139 they had 22 posts out of 41. While I recognize the fun in doing so, as well as the fact it is not inherently bad play, it's not as fun for me to work around and read through.

Again, I want to emphasize that I recognize that Batoru's extra posts are simple accidents and that Sondam's aren't malicious/inherently bad play, but the above are more specific examples of why I asked to be more judicious when posting.

ok, Thanks for clarification. and I promise to never spam but I won't drop my activity or post rate in any manner. Sondom hydra has MariaR I guess? Its not spamming. she is just playing around to get the feel I suppose. I never saw he scum but her town does that so thats not alarming. BATORU hydra members need to talk privatly a bit I guess. I Think I'm confusing their stands on stuff as well.

#Frozen

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drealmerz7's voice emanates through those who care to listen's ears, but still, he does not speak...

I wouldn't say it's an argument, just a preferred position. I think now is not the time to get into game theory unless the group wants to have a big discussion about it right now, it'll just be distraction, though. As long as it is understood that I will not be parsing discrepancies between brains. If there is an issue, your slot (any hydra slot) will have to account for it to me as an individual entity, "we disagree" will be viewed as a dichotomous position held at a single point in time, and I consider it grounds for reading as scum and for placing my vote - reason: blatant contradiction of position. My slot can't think ____ is simultaneously scum and town and get away with it, neither can your slot. <--That sort of special treatment.

I might have multiple personalities and I might support two exactly opposite line of thinking to see which one is more valid. Deal with it - or not

who cares

@People can you please refer to Fire as Fire? Fire why your inning to games with your FA acc? Your trying to confuse me >.>

#Frozen

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But I'm not scum so you shouldn't like the votes on me.

@Prism what? I was talking about your attaking hydra thingi - how is my reasoning courteous but you won't buy it ... and thats how I play to question everything I see and unless you explain why is that scummy your argument is pure shit.

Please talk to me about your scumreads on me.

@Fire I know you won't hear me and call me ATE'e or whatever, I'm not going to respond to you emotional. I want to cooprate with you logical wise to understand your scumread on me and deflect it. This is my step , now its your turn. What are your concerns?

#Frozen

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By that I mean I know I'm not scum but you shouldn't know it yet (assuming your town) so you have the right to question me.

I will answer everything in detail - as if your town we need to unite eventually or we will loose the game and if your scum you shouldn't be able to throw shade on me and run away

so lets talk

<3

pedit : You can't pinpoint your concerns yet becuase your not seeing anything scummy. Your just not used to this version of me. Thats how I see things atm. I might be hard to read and harder now that I'm not the bitch who gives a readlist on page 2 and push it till death - but This version of me will be more angelatic in catching and pushing scum. I'm promising that so maybe its better to drop that wrong view and push others to talk about game related stuff so they make temselves more readable.

I like to know wisodm's opinion about Iron atm.

#Frozen

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I think Not Chara is town.
I would expect them to be paying attention to the game more closely as scum and see where my vote is, and the questioning of my own reads when I have weak reasoning seems townie.

she is paying attention to game from my pov.

You stated a scum read on me but you refused to talk about it atm which is exactly what she doesn't like about you. Hows that related to the fact your voting me or not?

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You stated a scum read on me but you refused to talk about it atm which is exactly what she doesn't like about you. Hows that related to the fact your voting me or not?

Not Chara said I was voting you.

ehh.

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@Dunn what is that huh going to mean?

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Why are you talking with such a serious and formal tone with me Fire?

@NC what about him being able to explain his reasons for town reading you make him probably town? How is that resolved your previous concerns about reads on me and Nosfeartu?

#Frozen

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The first was @Fire

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Town: Not Chara, Sondam
Lean Town: BATORU
Null: Anyone Not Mentioned
Lean Scum: Nosferatu, Pisskop, Mega Frozen

Why is sondam town
Why BATORU is lean Town
why pisskop is lean scum
why am I lean scum

I know you said you won't be able to pinpoint it. I will keep asking till you gain the ability to pinpoint it or drop it.

#Frozen

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Why are you talking with such a serious and formal tone with me Fire?


Why are you talking with such a serious and formal tone with me Fire?

Because I am getting serious and I am formal.
I don't understand the purpose of this?

Are you trying to see why I am acting differently than normal?

I'm trying to get into your head.

I feel your trying to distance yourself from me and I don't like that

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it isn't just me, it's also the way he explained his reads on you two. i don't take issue with having weaker reads at this stage, and the way he tied that into his read on me doesn't feel like scum. i often see what appear to be misunderstandings as town, and point them out, so i liked that Fire was acknowledging misunderstandings as a reason for conflict, instead of just scummy behaviour.
and my concerns weren't as deep as i thought, i realized.

no ones concern is so deep so early. thats normal. what about that makes him probably town?

I brought it up to make him talk to me. I just said it.

#Frozen

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and I saw his scumgame before yeah.

we played so many games together and I modded his games multiple times - and he modded my games multiple times.

how is that relevant data?

#Frozen

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Do you mean like distancing scum do from teammates or just not interacting?
I am guessing the first since I am interacting with you.
I don't see why a tone or formality would be a issue with you beyond you never playing with this style of me.

A tone change or formallity makes it like your cold and you don't enjoy the current interaction. From a social point of view it hints to the other person to drop the converstaion and if it was anyone else I guess they would without thinking about this.

Its something happenes unintentionally. I just want to know what is the reason. Is this somehow a way you want to play the whole game or was it occasionally with me.

What is your meta reason for sondom taking game siriously as scum? i never saw that.

What is an aggressive pushing feeling? If its early how is that a concern enough to put him in scum lean? [make no mistake. I do have the similar feeling about pisskop as he is playing more like his cowboy bebop scum thingi so far. I just want to understand how your judging stuff.]

and why you dodged about talking about me?

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pedit: because him acting formal is either alignment indicative and important, or not alignment indicative and unimportant. because you asked, i figured you thought it might be alignment indicative. and if you knew his scumgame, you would know if the formality was something to be wary of, or not.

Everything is alignment indicative and important. Their just in different degrees of importance. I might use anything to make people talk - and to compare that with their previous arguments to test the validity and agenda.

Formality is new for him and alarming so I brought it up.

#Frozen

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I didn't understand it and I didn't put anything in your mouth?

and yes I felt your discourageing people from that by saying their both nai and it shouldn't be followed. thats why I asked about it from you in first place

and I think I don't understand english here. what is courteous exactly? I interpreted it as somthing that you judge true not nice

I know how to scumhuant thank you ; you don't need to start teaching me. what about me asking questions is scummy?

I never insulted you in any manner stop taking offended mantle. I insulted your scumread on my play style. Idea's are insultable. and no its not just unclear. its pure shit.

#Frozen

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Did you or did you not claim both what has been done about Dunn and Iron were NAI to explain why your not going to follow the formed wagons/arguements against them or not?

How was my question putting something in your mouth?

#Frozen

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I can ask questions all day. That fact alone will never tell you what my role PM says. The fact that you do the same isn't going to tell me anything about yours. The content of those questions, on the other hand, are very valuable.

In another note : Is there any way (I mean beside some night actions and stuff- by actual scumhunting) to learn someone else role pm?

My questions are so contentful. You might fail to see that and I don't care. Thats what make conversations and give me reliable reads. The content of those questions are very valuable, I agree. mainly for me.

lets talk about the content of my questions. I was trying to lead converstaion in manners I value to poke people to talk and to get enough data for comparing stuff and huant scummy agendas.

what about which question of me had a scummy content and whats the meaning of that?

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See you made two points that I put something in your mouth and that I'm asking too much questions.

For first I guess I understand your concern and I think the reason is that I confused you to someone else who made a point about Iron as well and I intrepreted it like that ... I need to reread stuff

how is an answer poilte though? I'm confused

for second "that I called this pure shit" and I haven't tried to understand you on it as its clear and still "pure shit" as thats my playstyle to question people and thats how I scum hunt.

I guess I don't understand you at all and its a language barrier atm. Let me try to reread the whole stuff to understad

#Frozen

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You're taking this as an attack on your playstyle, which it

is not.

It is questioning why you, as someone who is trying to "get into the minds of others" and asking questions to "draw it out" did not take note of what my post said. Your account of my post was that I was discouraging questioning Dunn/iron, and would be very scummy indeed if it were true. Yet, it never happened. In truth I did the opposite. This seems contradictory to me. Are you really trying to get into my mind if you didn't even try to understand my statement to begin with, or are you just looking for a reason to push a lynch?

yeah I guess I misunderstood.

Let me reread the whole thing please

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I don't think either Dunn or Iron's claims are particularly town. They're a balance factor that make sense as starting spells for either alignment, and there are real incentives to immediately claim them as mafia. Of all the players who have posted so far, I like, in a purely mafia-related sense, Sondam and BTD6. The person I like the least is Wisdom so

see that was what you wrote

I asked the following question:

why is that though? arguably yeah both claims are NAI. Their still slots in game. whats your impression on the way their playing?

You answered:

I don't have X-Ray meta vision. My impression is that the way they've played thus far is null. Is this the objective case? No. Is this the subjective case? Certainly.

BATORU voted me before hand for not trying as much as I should or something - which implied he beleives me pushing Iron is not ok. Under impression people are thinking about me like that and are clearing Iron and Dunn for spell claiming (some expressed this multiple times) I mistakingly assumed your one of those people (cuase I had in mind you didn't vote in them after calling their spell thingi NAI - which is accurate detail ) and you called them null. so I asked this to make sure about your stance :

I don't have X-Ray meta vision. My impression is that the way they've played thus far is null. Is this the objective case? No. Is this the subjective case? Certainly.

yeah

But why is pushing them to see what they will do afterward to sort them is an invalid tactic to you?

#Frozen

which was based on wrong assumptions.

If thats your whole argument about how my questions are bad then your whole argument saying how my questions are bad, is not "pure shit" as well. I interpreted that your pushing me for two reasons - that I made that point and I'm questioning too much and I was treating the second one sepratly.

#White

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You can insult my argument all you want, but as I said, you can't judge it accurately before you have it explained to you. If no one explained the Theory of Relativity to you, would it be pure shit as well?

Trying to understand someone else's argument while calling it pure shit-without ever hearing it-is not trying to understand someone's argument. It's assuming they're wrong from the start.

Oh and regarding this

I KNOW your wrong from the start so your point won't apply here. I'm trying to understand your argument and concerns to resolve them not to see if its correct or not

#Frozen

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I was thinking about the setup -and If I was the designer of this I would definitely put a silence spell - probably as dark magic

It makes sense that it will role block and vote block because their both spells.

Discuss

#Frozen

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i dont really know the vc, but i heard

fire
Elsa
sondam


non of which id say were wasted wagons atm

that means you scumread me?

why is that?

#Frozen

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Nahdia was really concentrated on the fact "its a spell" I'm just trying to guess what will that mean

vote steal (spell steal) is ehh - as there is already a rotating spell thingi
Blocking is really impactful and fit in game setup though.

whats your read on me and the wagon on me?

pedit : though thats intresting - if votes are spells why their not getting reflected?

#Frozen

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you saw me scum in my second newbie game back in really old days.

#Frozen

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can you give me reads on Sondam and Dunnstral?

I missed this during intrections.

Sondam is ... Sondam . From what I know from that hydra and MariaR I need to give it time to let them develop a stance and judge them by it and other interactions. It feels normal atm

I refuse to give you a read on dunn as its not yet soldified enough to be exposed.

#Frozen

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This game has had a lot of content in one day.

Anyway, I have been reading (mainly skimming). I currently have a very weak scumread on Mega Frozen and since it is still early Day 1 I do not have anything much stronger than that. I also have a very weak Townread on Fire.

VOTE: Mega Frozen

What is this going to even mean? I translated this to "Cause its day 1 I will park my vote on Frozen! It seems there is enough potential to lynch her and thats enough for day 1"

Am I supposed to respond to this? Are you trying to solve this shit?

@Sondam I meant I felt he is respectfully asking me to shut up. Not that it makes him scum. I know why he wants that as either alignment naturally. I'm just trying to avoid that traction and force him to talk.

@Pisskop What is the scummy thing you saw in Fire?

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and I just explained what made me think that in next posts. Its a mixture of gut and meta and my crocked knowledge about social behaviors.

He just was talking differently

#Frozen

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@Prism: why did you do RQS?
~GE

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I'm getting cold feet on the Frozen wagon, pun intended, but I'm not unvoting while Sondam is the alternative.

-Tama

what about unvoting me is related to voting Sondam?

whats your read on Firebringer and Pisskop?

pedit : yeah

#Frozen

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How did you do that?

Its weird

#Frozen

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I was about to asking you about Pisskop and Fire and you ninjaed me with answer.

I am town so the wagon on me is deffinitly not better than the ones are currently forming - cause I'm not sure about their alignments. I don't know why Jr scum reads me and I don't know why your voting me

The same goes about BTD vote.

The wagon on me is not even meaningful until you start talking why are you forming it to let me respond

#white

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I am trying to solve this. After reading I found I mostly agreed with Fire on Frozen and thus I have a very weak scumread on Frozen. Bear in mind that a very weak scumread is, for me, rather strong at this stage. I may get weak/moderate scumreads later in Day 1. I generally do not form strong readsuntil after some flips.

Stop playing with words. Your not saying reasons your just dodging the topic.

Fire himself said he can't pinpoint the reason he scumreads me and is dodging repeatedly interacting about it with me, how is that your "Agreed" with him is a reason

I won't flip for your satisfaction. This slot is town and offlimit. go try mislynch someone else.

#white

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you are pretty serious this game and its really unwonted and uncharacteristic.

IKR ?

I said the exact same thing and 20 players attacked it from every corner. I was starting to feel crazy. thanks for this

#white

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You misunderstood me

I didn't say your getting the game sirious is a new thing. I'm saying your tone - and the way you talk seems "new" as its like your talking with sttangers not me.

#Frozen

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But whatever.

This convo is not going anywhere useful atm

What is aggressive Pisskop? you didn't answer this to me

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