In post 218, shannon wrote: In post 52, XnadrojX wrote: In post 47, nn30 wrote: In post 43, XnadrojX wrote:Wait what I'm still on copper? oops lemme fix that real quick
UNVOTE: Copper
and yes I count that as stalking
PEdit: There was a cover up. You clearly stated "scum" in 10 followed by "newbie town" in post 12. There's nothing to clarify
This definitely reads as scummy. Especially the part where you didn't put your vote on me...
VOTE: xnadrojx
Of all the scummy things I did this is the one that asks you to lynch me? Me moving off my RVS vote after forgetting about you is scummy? What in that post suggests I had intention to vote you?
I just had a quicky look at XX's iso, and prior to this post
where he refers to himself as doing 'all of the scummy things', I can't actually see anything scummy that he's done.
In
26 he makes a quick point about NN (case is too strong a word), and then builds on it in
35 , clarifies it in
43.
In
47 NN calls 43 scummy, especially that XX didn't put his vote on NN. And then XX responds with his 'all the scummy things' line. This is the bit where I think we've gone wrong. I dunno if I can explain this clearly but let's have a go.
If say, the team was NN and XX, and *someone else* called out XX for scumreading NN but not voting him, then that's legit. We've identified that someone is faking a read or maybe avoiding voting a partner.
But for NN himself to say that it's bad for XX not to vote him... I can't see why that makes XX scummy unless it's bussing, and NN has been too pushy on XX for it to be that.
(Like I think at the moment, if those two are a team then NN should be easing off XX and letting the conversation go away from him).
I think it's entirely plausible that XX just wanted to ask more questions before voting, and I don't think that's AI.
Given the tone of his
212 I think it's actually possible that Scum NN has just distracted us by leaning on XX over bullshit.
VOTE: NN
I would encourage you to look at the motivations behind what I've done rather than the exact wording of what I have / haven't done. Consider a town perspective as well as a scum perspective.
I'll now ask a loaded question (since I clearly have decided on an answer already - one which I hope you can come to as well).
Let's presume XX and I are actually the scum team. Why would I respond to pressure on myself by bussing him? Wouldn't I try to start literally anywhere else? I could even EBWOP Accountant or... whoever scum read me on page 1. Can't remember their name and I'm not interested in looking atm (wine - ho!!!)
Scum win conditions are predicated on
survival
. Any day that town mislynches is a win. Any day one of us (or our partner) is lynched is a bad day.
Given that bussing my partner, on day one, when he doesn't actually have a 'this is lynch is definitely happening' amount of pressure, is bad.
I also bolded a statement from your quote - My behavior definitely disagrees with this assessment. I've actively asked the town to refocus the conversation on XX today, which directly contradicts your line of thought in the above quote.
I've discounted your thought that XX and I are scum
together
. As far as my being scum
alone
all I want to say right now is that everyone is building a house of cards based off of a page 1 scum read. If your house is built on sand... well... I'll let you figure out the rest.