Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Ironstove
I think this is frozen's town game

This guy is scum and drealmer can die too

[BATORU]

VOTE: Ironstove
I think this is frozen's town game

This guy is scum and drealmer can die too

Agreed

-tama

[Nosferatu]

Nosferatu is even lying about meta here. Street Figher (although I had outburst), I was very serious in.

you weren't nearly as serious here as you are here fam
you had serious runs in that game, here you're serious throughout.

[ironstove]

Yea OK not really what I was hoping to get from town

[ironstove]

Lynch me then Lynch frozen thanks

[BATORU]

OK wait what

Ironstove why are you suddenly THAT certain after not posting all game???

-tama

[Nahdia]

The Acken Family was the first of two families blessed by Xova whose line have gone extinct. Records indicate they were always very small family, and became doomed when the sole heir to their line became the first to die in a trial during the Fourth Trial of the Evoker.

-Excerpt from

The Fifteen Families

by Frederick Kendall

Votecount 1.03

ironstove (4):

Mega Frozen, pisskop, Fire Assassin, Dunnstral

Mega Frozen (3):

Prism, BTD6_Maker, ironstove

Sondam (2):

Wisdom, Not Chara

Dunnstral (1):

Sondam

BTD6_Maker (1):

drealmerz7

drealmerz7 (1):

Nosferatu

Not Voting (1):

BATORU

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-11-30 13:05:00).

[ironstove]

I'm not, but I want to see frozen lynched and if me flipping town proves my fos isn't scum motivated then maybe you guys will listen.

[drealmerz7]

- fuck you to those who don't like to have fun -

Sondam seems like a user (or hydra in this case) who will troll hard as town but take the game serious as scum.

This seems contradictory. If you think townSondam trolls hard and they are scum, their serious position as scum could be to do what they think would get them town-read, which would mean trolling hard. That's taking the role as scum seriously.

Do you mean like distancing scum do from teammates or just not interacting?
I am guessing the first since I am interacting with you.
I don't see why a tone or formality would be a issue with you beyond you never playing with this style of me.

A tone change or formallity makes it like your cold and you don't enjoy the current interaction. From a social point of view it hints to the other person to drop the converstaion and if it was anyone else I guess they would without thinking about this.

Its something happenes unintentionally. I just want to know what is the reason. Is this somehow a way you want to play the whole game or was it occasionally with me.

That's assumptive. Some players just play differently at times.

Trying to understand someone else's argument while calling it pure shit-without ever hearing it-is not trying to understand someone's argument. It's assuming they're wrong from the start.

I have this problem constantly in mafia and is a big way I scumhunt, because after I go around-around-around a few times and they still aren't getting it I usually have a good read as to whether it's intentional twisting of words and misunderstanding to cause frustration, or genuine lack of connecting minds.

[Prism]

Frozen's play is probably worth a metadive and I'll try to get around to it another day. To answer Gamma, I did RQS because I thought it would be useful. I didn't spend too much time thinking them up, they were just the first ones I thought of in 2-3 minutes, but they all have a purpose. What answer did you expect from a scum vs. town me here?

I'm not, but I want to see frozen lynched and if me flipping town proves my fos isn't scum motivated then maybe you guys will listen.

This is a pretty big overreaction. Does your FOS have even a 50% chance of being mafia? If you're town, there's 9 other town and 3 mafia. I wouldn't be so eager to jump into giving us something that's likely a double mislynch. Saying this just makes me want to lynch you hoping you're mafia and then subsequently discard your FoS if you flip town, and that's not the thought you want to inspire in anyone.[quote="In

VOTE: Ironstove
I think this is frozen's town game

This guy is scum

Agreed

Can you expound on this? The reasoning isn't immediately clear to me.

[Impoetic]

My reasoning was based on the fact that his only content post was to join a BW that was already pretty far along and he only agreed with old arguments used rather than having any personal take on it + was outwardly nonchalant with the justification it was d1 despite it being as far as I felt like it was. I didn't love his posts after mine either for what I think are reasons you share. Town shouldn't give up that easily.

JR disagrees though. We're having a lot of reads dissonance at the moment I think.

VOTE: nosferatu

[BATORU]

My reasoning was based on the fact that his only content post was to join a BW that was already pretty far along and he only agreed with old arguments used rather than having any personal take on it + was outwardly nonchalant with the justification it was d1 despite it being as far as I felt like it was. I didn't love his posts after mine either for what I think are reasons you share. Town shouldn't give up that easily.

JR disagrees though. We're having a lot of reads dissonance at the moment I think.

VOTE: nosferatu

Shoot, sorry.

(-tama)

[BATORU]

"Town shouldn't give up that easily" was a general comment directed more at ironstove than Prism, not an explanation

nosferatu is one of the few votes we both agree on but my read came earlier so I'd be pressed to explain it well now. I'll try in a bit.

-tama

[Prism]

I'm not, but I want to see frozen lynched and if me flipping town proves my fos isn't scum motivated then maybe you guys will listen.

I was also curious about the Frozen townread. Was that a part you agree with

[drealmerz7]

drealmerz7 casts his finger of suspicion on Nosferatu

FoS Nosferatu

[Dunnstral]

^Why

[Prism]

@Batoru
@ironstove

I'm not, but I want to see frozen lynched and if me flipping town proves my fos isn't scum motivated then maybe you guys will listen.

I was also curious about the Frozen townread. Was that a part you agree with

This post was a mistake-I didn't mean to quote iron here. This is directed to Batoru.

[BATORU]

you are pretty serious this game and its really unwonted and uncharacteristic.

IKR ?

I said the exact same thing and 20 players attacked it from every corner. I was starting to feel crazy. thanks for this

#white

the way frozen has been reacting to the foses (with the mindset that they're town and a lot of "am I crazy?" and "find another ML to push"-type stuff + some other posts I'd have to go back and quote to explain) and the lack of resistance to the wagon that i perceived + JaeReed thought your vote on the wagon was odd and I don't think it was SvS odd. It's not really a fullblown townread but I'm wavering and liked Dunn's post overall.

[BATORU]

I'll pop in with what I know from hydra chat.

Tama found 229 to be towny from Frozen and asked me to have a look at it, i agreed it seems genuine. I found 254 to be more gut town AtE given I've had kinda the same feelings towards friends when playing that I think are coming through with that post which when I brought up to them they seemed to see where I was coming from there. I liked 271 and noted it to Tama as it's consideration that she might be misunderstanding something and taking a step back to re-evaluate which I feel scum are less inclined to do. I disliked 277 though because it feels rolefishy, and Tama agreed that was bad too.

So I'd say overall, there's things we both like and dislike, but it's leaning more town than not at least for me at this point in the game.

~Ruko

pedit oh tama already responded. Gonna go ahead and post anyway since I went to the effort of finding the posts we were discussing

[Sondam]

VOTE: pisskop
#Nakedvote
~M

[Sondam]

@People can you please refer to Fire as Fire? Fire why your inning to games with your FA acc? Your trying to confuse me >.>

I believe I was a pre-in before you signed up.
Even so, if I formed such a dastardly plan, I would have probably announced it in sign ups.

Whats your read on Sondam?

scum. why was this question asked, Fire? ;>

Sondam: please tell me, in detail, why you are so very obvious town.

Lol, so your reason for voting us is to ask us why we are obvious town? When actually I stated that AFTER you voted us. And don't ask me, ask the people who keep townreading us. So, if you'd stop deflecting, you should answer why you FOS us.

~G

[Sondam]

Why are people voting Iron when he's town? Lol

~G

[Nosferatu]

^Why

same

[BATORU]

I remembered. Nosferatu's reaction to me saying I wasn't sure they were town initially was bad and I didn't like the way they talked about meta assuming I'm right on Fire being town (not sure but my other half's support makes me feel better about it). Something else too I forgot. Nos ur here ppls talk

Why are people voting Iron when he's town? Lol

~G

Why people saying Iron's town when he's not town? Lol

~T

[Nosferatu]

sadly I have no idea if they're town or not
-Tama

quandaries of the century.

how was this bad?