Mini 1836: Space Mafia (Game Over)

[PantherPunt]

I think I'm willing to give Toto the benefit of the doubt. At least for today.

I initially thought that might be intentionally trying to divert conversations away from scum hunting, but if that's the case or if he really is just playing dumb with all this, then this is some next level shit. So, I'm starting to get the impression that all of this is genuine.

I don't like this statement. Them saying they found toto initially red off of asking about game setup stuff doesn't sit will with me for 2 reasons; Firstly we was in a slow down. there was nothing really going on as proved by a 50% of town prod, so saying it was 'diverting conversations away from scum hunting' is bs. and secondly we all know its toto's second game on site and they only have a bit of coaching so it makes sense for them to think about this as a new player.

It just doesn't sit right with me that he would get a red! read out of it...

You're either forgetting or choosing to ignore the fact that I was pretty convinced that Toto's inexperience was all just an act.

I'm still not wholly convinced that it isn't, but like I said, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

So you think they have played Mafia on another site prior to coming here?

Was it someone else that accused toto of being coached? Have you been of the "faking inexperience" opinion and didn't say coached previously?

[PantherPunt]

Pedit; No i'm not buying that you think its an act excuse.

Whether you buy it or not is completely irrelevant.

Suppose Toto really is an alt of some experienced player, can you then see why Toto's play is scummy?

You can't be an alt and play a newbie as a newbie

FYI

[PantherPunt]

Seriously guys where are your fucking FACULTIES.

gerryoat is town

I don't have a grip on the VC but if zach is the counterwagon I don't get why he'd be hard for a Gerry town read

So maybe just scum scum

Think zach is scummy independently of association it's just weird

Will look back and see if there is a basis for that read on Gerry later. Maybe

[PantherPunt]

take a guess buddy

Naomi?

I blame me. I should have stopped you before you got started... like a killswitch

Seriously guys where are your fucking FACULTIES.

gerryoat is town

why is oat town? I can't think of anything spectacular off the top of my head.

specifically the twoface interaction on day 1 ( i think it was twoface)

and the general fact that he.. hasn't.. done anything scummy?

Nvm there it is

Consider me lacking in the whelm department

[PantherPunt]

and the general fact that he.. hasn't.. done anything scummy?

But he did.

He accused me of doing something that his scum read of the time (massive) did. He ignored massive and kept attacking me. I showed him over and over again that he was accusing the wrong person and he still pushed me. He even quoted massive doing it and still somehow thought that proved his case.

If that wasn't enough, when I was talking about Maria giving him a free pass because they were friends which was talked about at length, he went and pulled a quote from Naomi saying she was giving somebody (can't even remember who now) a free pass and when I pointed out Naomi didn't say anything about them being friends as the reason, he acted like that was the first time he heard that was my issue.

He was obviously reading so I'm not buying he misinterpreted or misunderstood. It's fake stupidity and is very scummy. It's why massive/Gerry are scum together imo.

If Gerry really was scum reading massive, he would have been all over him. He wasn't.

I'll be honest I never really delved into that bit you were yelling at him about

In your opinion, does it prevent gerry and massive from being scum together? It kinda sounds like it

[PantherPunt]

Hey. Looks like I have 11 pages to read. Probabaly won't tonight

Cliffs?

[PantherPunt]

I read 99 and this page and I've gathered what we are looking at.

Twoface sounds like he's claiming voyeur which is a horrible role but it's the only thing that can come to mind about how he knows what specific action was taken on itlepip
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Voyeur

didn't someone speculate about pip getting killed and blocked in case he was saved?

I'm just left wondering why in the world town would block the ambiguously claimed pr who is likely night killed. the answer is either he isn't a good thinker or he's just scum roleblocker claiming town roleblocker like every scum roleblocker in the history of historydom tries do to.

[PantherPunt]

twoface with 57,000 claimed pr's the game has basically mass claimed

you're not helping town in any way shape or form by withholding info

[PantherPunt]

back in an hr

[PantherPunt]

Why would scum roleblock and kill itlepip at the same time?

They wouldn't, that's what I'm saying.

It's 100% possible. For fear of a protection on itelpip, they block as well in case he's an investigative role (which voila he was).

Not saying it's what happened but don't sit here saying it's ridiculous

[PantherPunt]

twoface is there a good reason you won't claim how you know itelpip was blocked

[PantherPunt]

The plan would be vig shooting me

I think no matter what happens we get info

Assuming I'm not killed

Then either Naomi would be scum, or naomi would be roleblocked and I'd get my visit off

but if naomi is roleblocked

and twoface is killed

and vig shoots you

then we are fucked

[PantherPunt]

is that not a hole in that plan or am I missing something?

[PantherPunt]

I can see a slight bit of utility in twoface's role

bc with a bodyguard, he can find out who they visited (who scum tried to kill) which equates to an innocent cop check on that person (but would need to be clarified with mod bc if bodyguard is targeted directly for kill that's misleading)

and if friendly neighbor is in the game, you can clear up the supposed results surrounding that

also could be useful late game if tracker didn't die to say like "tracker vistited X n1, Y n2" etc and if they hadn't "outed" someone you may be able to help POE the game

I originally thought the role made no sense but I think twoface has been towny

And I still go back to thinking that town!rb never targets pip n1. and likely was targeted for block and kill and gerry is just scum. but I really should reread

[PantherPunt]

My main concerns, in respect to a scum Dunn, are a Mafia Doctor protecting him, Dunn being BP (both of which are possible, considering there is a Vig), and a scum blocking the Vig (far less likely, I know), and us not getting ANY information on Dunn.

I was also immediately concerned about scum doctor as soon as he proposed that the vig shoot him in lieu of him being lynched

but there is a lot at play

[PantherPunt]

But flipping Dunn now lets us know going into night knowing if there is a another blocker role or not. Let's us know if grapes is town or scum

If Dunn flips scum, who would make sense as partners?

so if Dunn flips town friendly neighbor:
we know -> he was blocked night 1 OR grapes is scum lying (lesser of two likelihoods)

situation still ambiguous

if Dunn flips scum:
we know nothing about with certainty regarding grapes alignment (not likely they were being theatrical but possible. dunn likes to bus)

[PantherPunt]

I believe twoface and naomi are what they say they are

itlepip was a tracker

plus vig

Dunn friendly neighbor? maybe
gerry town roleblocker? not likely imo

Dunn and gerry scum together? seems unlikely

massive
xk
toto
nos
zach
grapes

probably contains 2 mafia then

my instinct is to lynch outside of all claims and let the mafia resolve some of these claims with their night actions, which I assume they have a heavy does of when we talk about the number of roles in the game

[PantherPunt]

I haven't read through to know the context in which she claimed

But I presume it was because she thought there had to be some fake claims going on due to her being a power role

[PantherPunt]

There are enough disassociations in this game that I think scum never win

They better have a shitton of power though considering that we have 6 (if you count vig) roles out there as it is, and I think 4 and quite possibly 5 are legit. so I'm just hoping theres balance for them

[PantherPunt]

if I had the motivation I'd take all the people I'm considering lynching and start working out how many people I'd rule out as partners and say lynch the common denominator

but I don't have the motivation

I'd seriously be fine with any lynch except twoface namoi and toto

and I think I like the mechanical approach to not lynch claimed roles, just for today, so also take off dunn and gerry

despite disliking xk on some stuff I'm going to apply a super generic tell to him and say don't lynch him

so
massive, nos, zach, grapes

lettuce reach a consensus

[PantherPunt]

Zach does not work for me...

Maybe you need ya boy to case Xkfyu

reads on:
massive
nos
grapes

GO GO GO GO GO

[PantherPunt]

So, pip was definitely blocked.

The plan would be vig shooting me

I think no matter what happens we get info

Im pretty sure the vig will shoot me. If they are who I think they are.

vig aint shooting you

[PantherPunt]

Whoever dies, I get a report of who if anyone they visited. Pip and Maria didn't visit anyone which I felt was odd. Hence my comment a while back that pip was blocked or didn't submit an action which I felt would not be likely. I even confirmed with the mod that his actions go before a kill so the kill wasn't the reason.

Wait... so we have a variant tracker with a real tracker? In the same setup...

So the counter to me Dunn being a thing is

; A roleblocker and a duplicate role claim?
And thats more likely over FN and Bodyguard?

Don't understand what you're saying here

[PantherPunt]

Whoever dies, I get a report of who if anyone they visited. Pip and Maria didn't visit anyone which I felt was odd. Hence my comment a while back that pip was blocked or didn't submit an action which I felt would not be likely. I even confirmed with the mod that his actions go before a kill so the kill wasn't the reason.

Wait... so we have a variant tracker with a real tracker? In the same setup...

So the counter to me Dunn being a thing is; A roleblocker and a duplicate role claim?
And thats more likely over FN and Bodyguard?

except I am not a tracker

well you essentially get results as if you tracked someone every night they were alive. once they die. so keyword variant

[PantherPunt]

Everyone just hold your horses. I need to look into something.... will report back with findings.

[PantherPunt]

Kills resolve after investigative actions.

So twoface is not caught lying.

I'm used to order of ops:
X
Y
Z
killing
investigations

carry on

[PantherPunt]

I have blatantly had a townread on twoface

I just thought that piece of his claim wad odd when I pondered on it

[PantherPunt]

Serious question toto. Have you read what's been going on?

pip was blocked and killed.

Who do you think killed pip? Mafia or vig?

If Mafia that means Gerry being mafia makes little sense

It makes sense if he is mafia with Dunn or Grapes. Or if mafia has another role altering role.

Rbing and killing itlepip makes sense in case itlepip got protection he wouldnt be able to use his role.

Rbing itlepip as town doesn't seem like the right play.

I agree with you toto, so don't listen to people calling this dumb. If I wasn't sure where I was on twoface I'd call his line here a scum narrative trying to power away from a Gerry lynch. But I think he's town. Which means he's not thinking well. Or is not nearly skeptical enough of all the information that's been presented

[PantherPunt]

Also fuck this site

[PantherPunt]

Serious question toto. Have you read what's been going on?

pip was blocked and killed.

Who do you think killed pip? Mafia or vig?

If Mafia that means Gerry being mafia makes little sense

It makes sense if he is mafia with Dunn or Grapes. Or if mafia has another role altering role.

Rbing and killing itlepip makes sense in case itlepip got protection he wouldnt be able to use his role.

Rbing itlepip as town doesn't seem like the right play.

I agree with you toto, so don't listen to people calling this dumb. If I wasn't sure where I was on twoface I'd call his line here a scum narrative trying to power away from a Gerry lynch. But I think he's town. Which means he's not thinking well. Or is not nearly skeptical enough of all the information that's been presented

Gerry is basically confirmed town from my pov. The one not thinking we'll is toto and now you since you agree with toto

I mean I guess we will see who scum kills eh?

You, the post mortem tracker
Dunn, the fn who can be potentially mechanically cleared
Gerry, the town roleblocker who can stop night kills or other scum actions, eg scum roleblock/jailkeep
Naomi, the bodyguard
Presumably a vig

Let's see

But more often than not Gerry just flips scum roleblocker/jk

[PantherPunt]

Have you ever seen scum block and kill the same person? Especially day 1?

Like someone said earlier. If scum was worried about doc protection you block him only. You don't waste a kill on a person you're blocking.

Depends what roles scum have as a team, but to answer your question, yes I've seen a block/kill n1

[PantherPunt]

VOTE: grapes

Could go toto or panther

What's the impetus for your vote change here?

[PantherPunt]

Link?

I'm not looking for it among the 40+ games of my last year

[PantherPunt]

@mod please confirm that this game is not following natural action resolution

[PantherPunt]

I just realized I wasn't voting anyone and grapes vote on Gerry is terrible

Bc Gerry is all but confirmed town for you?

A few people are willing to lynch Gerry, what sets his vote apart?

[PantherPunt]

@mod please confirm that this game is not following natural action resolution

Normal games follow natural action resolution by default unless the rules say otherwise and they don't.

what's the point of this question

Kills resolve before investigations
So when itlepip is killed his track shouldn't be processed as a visit
So you not getting a result of him visiting anyone should just be a product of him dying, not that he was blocked

BUT, I asked if the visit would show if such a mechanic exists, and it seems that's the case
Which means the game doesn't follow natural action resolution
And that's pretty damn important to know when we are talking about the number of roles here and how they potentially interact with one another

[PantherPunt]

I just realized I wasn't voting anyone and grapes vote on Gerry is terrible

Bc Gerry is all but confirmed town for you?

A few people are willing to lynch Gerry, what sets his vote apart?

1. Going back you don't have 40 games. The games you play that had mafia roleblocker nobody blocked and killed the same person

2. Gerry should be confirmed town to just about everyone with average intelligence who understands Occam's razor. Even if you don't think he's confirmed town, he's at least off the table for today

3. Grapes voted Gerry after a bunch of people agreed to lynch outside of the claims. His vote is bad

1-I play mafia elsewhere and probabaly have at least twice as many games there

2-And here we seem to be at an impasse of disagreement

3-Fair enough. I'd like to know if he disagrees with lynching outside claims or if he has town reads on what he perceives to be the viable wagons among that group

[PantherPunt]

here comes the no lynch again

[PantherPunt]

VC 2.10

Xkfyu (2)- Zachstralkita, gerryoat
gerryoat (1) - Naomi-Tan
Dunnstral (1) - grapes
Zachstralkita (1) - PantherPunt
Naomi-Tan (1)- massive
Nosferatu (1)- Xkfyu

Not voting (4)- Toto, TwoFace, Dunnstral, Nosferatu

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

(expired on 2016-10-31 12:00:00)

Mod notes: Xkfyu is V/LA until Monday.

[PantherPunt]

VOTE: gerry

VOTE: grapes

Could go toto or panther

So you don't even think gerry guessed that you knew he was roleblocked?

So you think the scumteam is grapes and gerry? Because they'd BOTH have to be scum in that case

I'm not sure I see your logic. Actually I don't see mine either anymore. If gerry is scum and itlepip was roleblocked by mafia he doesn't need to guess.

If mafia has no extra RB

gerry

could be

scum with the following partners: {dunn 50%, grapes 10%, 2-face 30%}

Gerry could be partners with someone else if they have another role altering role (jk, bus-driver, etc) (I'm giving this 10%)

This all assumes gerry is scum.

Looking at Gerry's L-1 wagon it has all other 3 claimed PRs. If this was a bus it seems too early. But this is why I'm worried about 2-face's 180 turn. I know 2-face explained this, but I still have some doubts.

Looking at Dunn's wagon from yesterday it has 2face + Naomi but not Gerry.

I think I feel good with this today. My backup option would be Dunn.
VOTE: gerry

VOTE: gerry

If this flips scum, vig twoface/lynch him

Town having:

Tracker
Friendly Neighbor
Vigilante
Bodyguard

makes a lot of sense.

Okay I'm here. Also Dunn is obvious mafia lol. I think that will get lynched easier so vote this. I'm going to sleep now.

If I get lynched, everyone who was town is stupid as hell for not seeing the unnatural bw votes on me. Even after I claimed my role and someone who tunneled me all day, is now defending me.

This game has been thoroughly awful as people are legit voting me for 0 reason.

VOTE: Dunn

Maybe it's a scum jailkeeper and town roleblocker

LOL

pedit: ss gave us another 48 hours

ya...and lynch is in just under 3.5 hrs

[PantherPunt]

Spoiler:

VC 2.10

Xkfyu (2)- Zachstralkita, gerryoat
gerryoat (1) - Naomi-Tan
Dunnstral (1) - grapes
Zachstralkita (1) - PantherPunt
Naomi-Tan (1)- massive
Nosferatu (1)- Xkfyu

Not voting (4)- Toto, TwoFace, Dunnstral, Nosferatu

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

(expired on 2016-10-31 12:00:00)

Mod notes: Xkfyu is V/LA until Monday.

VOTE: gerry

VOTE: grapes

Could go toto or panther

So you don't even think gerry guessed that you knew he was roleblocked?

So you think the scumteam is grapes and gerry? Because they'd BOTH have to be scum in that case

I'm not sure I see your logic. Actually I don't see mine either anymore. If gerry is scum and itlepip was roleblocked by mafia he doesn't need to guess.

If mafia has no extra RB

gerry

could be

scum with the following partners: {dunn 50%, grapes 10%, 2-face 30%}

Gerry could be partners with someone else if they have another role altering role (jk, bus-driver, etc) (I'm giving this 10%)

This all assumes gerry is scum.

Looking at Gerry's L-1 wagon it has all other 3 claimed PRs. If this was a bus it seems too early. But this is why I'm worried about 2-face's 180 turn. I know 2-face explained this, but I still have some doubts.

Looking at Dunn's wagon from yesterday it has 2face + Naomi but not Gerry.

I think I feel good with this today. My backup option would be Dunn.
VOTE: gerry

VOTE: gerry

If this flips scum, vig twoface/lynch him

Town having:

Tracker
Friendly Neighbor
Vigilante
Bodyguard

makes a lot of sense.

Okay I'm here. Also Dunn is obvious mafia lol. I think that will get lynched easier so vote this. I'm going to sleep now.

If I get lynched, everyone who was town is stupid as hell for not seeing the unnatural bw votes on me. Even after I claimed my role and someone who tunneled me all day, is now defending me.

This game has been thoroughly awful as people are legit voting me for 0 reason.

VOTE: Dunn

Maybe it's a scum jailkeeper and town roleblocker

LOL

pedit: ss gave us another 48 hours

ya...and lynch is in just under 3.5 hrs

Unofficial VC:
gerryoat (4) - Naomi-Tan, grapes, Toto, Dunnstral
Xkfyu (1)- Zachstralkita
Dunnstral (1) - gerryoat
Zachstralkita (1) - PantherPunt
Naomi-Tan (1)- massive
Nosferatu (1)- Xkfyu
grapes (1) - TwoFace

Not voting (1)- Nosferatu

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

lol

Nos you're a turd

don't even think enough people will be on to lynch anyone but gerry

[PantherPunt]

Unofficial

gerryoat (4) - Naomi-Tan, Toto, Dunnstral, Nosferatu
Dunnstral (4) - gerryoat, grapes, TwoFace, Xkfyu
Xkfyu (1)- Zachstralkita
Zachstralkita (1) - PantherPunt
Naomi-Tan (1)- massive


Not voting (0)- NOBODY

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

__

feel better about massive than zach. looks like we'll be deciding the lynch massive. looks like you are leaning toward Dunn

[PantherPunt]

For Dunn and gerry to both be town:

gerry blocked itlepip (idiotic, hard to believe, but of course lolpossible)
scum have a blocking role that targeted dunn, or maybe even a redirecting role that redirected dunn to one of themselves, or grapes is scum and hoped to powerlynch dunn and come back with 'oh maybe he was roleblocked' the following day

so it's possible. but also means we have a town tracker, roleblocker, friendly neighbor, archaeologist, bodyguard?, and vig?

so there are very likely lies afoot

I personally find it plausible that scum blocked and killed itlepip, but I suppose blocking pip and killing elsewhere was better play (though counting on good play is a horrible mistake in solving). in this scenario, gerry is just a scum roleblocker.

or scum didn't block itlepip and twoface made an extravagant fake claim to support gerry (this counts on really bad play and the way twoface is talking I kinda doubt this scenario. I actually think he is what he says he is, and if he is, that role is never ever scum bc it has no utility for scum whatsoever. but if he made it up, bravo. going with unlikely)

or Dunn fakeclaimed friendly neighbor when his neck was all the way on the block on day1. possible, and definitely more possible than the gerry/twoface cahoots theory. it's a claim that you can come up with reasons for why it didn't play out right on subsequent days and keep on living, but overall Dunn's behavior has appeared town to me today. but he's good.

[PantherPunt]

Are there enough people around to lynch Zach?

I very much prefer to do this.

Whoever said "we don't lynch outside the claims because there obviously aren't this many PR's" is a DOOFUS

bc if you lynch a real town PR, you do scums work for them and they get to have better night actions.

lynching outside the claims also makes them clean up some of the claims and clear people out of the POE by killing them. it's not something you stay married to, but for today I believe it's correct

[PantherPunt]

Why would we lynch outside the claims when there's quite obviously too much power claimed so far for it to all be town?

You guys think town has a:
Roleblocker
Tracker
Friendly Neighbor
Vigilante
Bodyguard

That would eat any scumteam alive.

Twoface calling gerry confirmed town is either scum or really bad town. He's not even accounting at all for the fact that gerry could be
1. Lying about being a roleblocker
2. Lying about who he targeted if he's a scumblocker
3. Telling the truth as scum

It's like he doesn't have any paranoia or something. Plus his vote on me is trash.

Could lynch that today tbh now that I'm thinking about it.

it was this guy

it's a scummy post

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when I said DOOFUS I thought it was TwoFace, who I don't believe is scum

now that I know it was grapes, I worry about nefarious motives and that both gerry and Dunn are town. and it's like grapes/zach/? (Nos, xk, someone)

[PantherPunt]

No it's not.

Town doesn't have that many power roles especially now that twoface is in there as well.

Ball up and lynch the scummiest claim.

Dunn is the scummiest claim because ________

and what if he flips friendly neighbor who could have confirmed himself tonight or forced scum to kill him

[PantherPunt]

need 4 more zach votes

grapes
twoface
dunn?

how about nosferatu with his scummy ass "if you're not voting gerry or dunn what are you doing" and peace out. probably scum there

[PantherPunt]

Because all the other claims I need to stretch to fit scum motive to. Except naomi's kinda but just because it's a weird thing to claim out of the blue.

Dunn's is easy -- didn't wanna get noosed.

I mean after I talked it out, I amazingly agree that Dunn's claim is the most straightforward to explain how he's scum. The thing is, if he is, Zach probably isn't? or maybe he is and they bussed for credibility bc it would be expected one would identify the other correctly. that I've seen

I'd vote zach to get a lynch.

I'm probably hammer the first L1 I see.

this is my preference though bc I still see a world where gerry is scum, twoface is town, and there was some other shenanigans with dunn's night action (like a redirection or something)

[PantherPunt]

Toto lynch is on town imo but I'll do it to avoid no lynch. whats VC

[PantherPunt]

Im VT go ahead. I prefer that to nolynch today.

fully expect this to flip vt

why couldn't we do zach

[PantherPunt]

twoface
xk
massive
grapes
toto
panther

we have 6 votes to place if we can do it

[PantherPunt]

Im VT go ahead. I prefer that to nolynch today.

fully expect this to flip vt

why couldn't we do zach

his actions don't look like town. his entire line of thinking doesn't look town

they do to me

you're the one saying you're playing a bad game so follow me

[PantherPunt]

twoface
xk
massive
grapes
toto
panther

we have 6 votes to place if we can do it

^^^

[PantherPunt]

unofficial
Zachstralkita (5) - PantherPunt, xkfyu, grapes, Toto, massive
gerryoat (3) - Naomi-Tan,, Dunnstral, Nosferatu
Dunnstral (2) - gerryoat, , twoface
Xkfyu (1)- Zachstralkita

[PantherPunt]

twofaceeeeeeeeeeeee

[PantherPunt]

lol this game

[PantherPunt]

need 4 more zach votes

grapes
twoface
dunn?

how about nosferatu with his scummy ass "if you're not voting gerry or dunn what are you doing" and peace out. probably scum there

still here fuckwit

lol

[PantherPunt]

I hate this day got ruined by the site going down. that totally fucked shit up.

no cause I think you are scum also

sucks you had to leave at 8 minutes to lynch

[PantherPunt]

vote zach

past deadline it doesn't matter

he came back 2 min too late

[PantherPunt]

I think that we should just go for the record now, no-lynch the rest of the game. Sheesh.

lol let's just maj vote no lynch next day and spare the fucking agony

cross our fingers on vig shots and start lynching when we get to lylo

[PantherPunt]

I blame the mod

poor form imho

we had a lot of time leading up. however, the site going down doesn't necessarily mean people are checking back every 10 minutes to find out when it's back up. it seems it's a unique circumstance that could be considered...like time remaining on counter when site went down +48 hours (prod time) for people to check back to see if the site is up

but mod decisions are mod discretionary

c'est la vie

[PantherPunt]

MOD: May we have a 1 hour extension as you flipped 1 hour late :I and by my calcs didn't add time for town

I did give an hour back - the day began at 12:18 pm EST and ends at 12:00 pm EST.

Technically

I did steal 18 minutes, but I usually just round things to the nearest hour anyway.

mod stole 18 minutes on the front end....we should be able to vote til :18

twoface...vote for the hell of it

[PantherPunt]

fuck it see you in two days

[PantherPunt]

I became a dad n2. A bit earlier than expected

Thinking I'm continuing but possibly slightly sparse for a few days.

[PantherPunt]

Being lock clear is always fun

I actually had a really great day 1 looking back if it is indeed xk with Dunn and nos

So I want to do that to prove I was right about how damn off he was

[PantherPunt]

see yinz next day

[PantherPunt]

I, for one, want to thank everyone for their participation. First game I've ever been a part of where I didn't have to deal with subs

I know I subbed in but it's a borderline miracle to play a mafiascum game with 1 sub among 13 slots in a game that went what 6 day phases

Seriously thanks all. Made it a fun and competitive game

[PantherPunt]

Gg Twoface and to all really

Town deserved the win based on overall play of players imo but Dunn definitely was a shining star on scum team. Can we just town together again already dammit

[PantherPunt]

Zach I wanna town with you too so I can see you post fast and loose

Scum zach was too reserved for me.