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Post Post #2375 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:41 am

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Well that's game.

VOTE: Omega
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Post Post #2376 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:42 am

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Dude Chaos came in and said he had a guilty on Toto, you didn't read that?
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Post Post #2377 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:42 am

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Mort^
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Post Post #2378 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:43 am

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In post 2372, Shadow_step wrote:Why is Chaos faking a guilty on Toto, one scum down, he will only get one extra day.

I am bit surprised. It's a mad move. But there is way Chaos would get result on Toto unless I was role-blocked. A jail-keeper, Role block, Vig & cop. It's an impossible setup.
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Post Post #2379 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:43 am

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I did read that Chaos said he had a guilty on Toto, I didn't know JK blocked investigative roles.
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Post Post #2380 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:44 am

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In post 2371, ArcAngel9 wrote:Who did you shoot last night?
HS

which means that mafia's kill failed. I seriously doubt mafia was trying to kill toto so you probably stopped his kill attempt.

chaos/toto
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Post Post #2381 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:45 am

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In post 2380, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2371, ArcAngel9 wrote:Who did you shoot last night?
HS

which means that mafia's kill failed. I seriously doubt mafia was trying to kill toto so you probably stopped his kill attempt.

chaos/toto
How perfect, So I chose it correctly. I feel so good about my night choice then :)
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Post Post #2382 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:45 am

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HS kill makes sense if Chaos is scum.
In post 2378, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2372, Shadow_step wrote:Why is Chaos faking a guilty on Toto, one scum down, he will only get one extra day.
I am bit surprised. It's a mad move. But there is way Chaos would get result on Toto unless I was role-blocked. A jail-keeper, Role block, Vig & cop. It's an impossible setup.
RB + JK is possible, but strongman + RB as scum roles sounds OP.
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Post Post #2383 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:45 am

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lol nevermind my previous post then
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Post Post #2384 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:46 am

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VOTE: Chaos

As far as I'm concerned we vote Chaos now.

IF Chaos is green - They will be confirmed cop. Confirmed toto is Red and confirmed Arc is red
IF Chaos is red - I still think there is a chance toto is red given evidence and that after being JK'd there was no kill. this is for 3 reasons. during most of yesterday Drone was friendly towards Toto until the end where it looked like he was implying to lynch him for green cred. As there was no NK I think toto took it but was jailed. So no kill. this would make sense to me. So.. In both paths there is a chance of red toto.
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Post Post #2385 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:46 am

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In post 2379, MortFeld wrote:I did read that Chaos said he had a guilty on Toto, I didn't know JK blocked investigative roles.

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A Jailkeeper (or Jailer)'s Night Action is one that protects its target from kills, but also Roleblocks its target. Unlike Doctor, Jailkeeper's protection extends to stopping every kill that would resolve on the target by default.
Because it is a combination Doctor and Roleblocker, Jailkeeper has a myriad of uses while not allowing broken combinations or exactly confirming anyone as Town or scum. Thus, it has risen to prominence as a very popular power role.
Because it is a Roleblocker, Jailkeeper is never allowed to self-target.
This role is a non-bastard version of Paranoid Doctor.

Read from here

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper
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Post Post #2386 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:46 am

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How did that cop claim go un fucking CCed then?
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Post Post #2387 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:47 am

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vote: chaos
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Post Post #2388 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:47 am

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In post 2386, Shadow_step wrote:How did that cop claim go un fucking CCed then?
cause you don't cc day 1
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Post Post #2389 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:48 am

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In post 2382, Shadow_step wrote:HS kill makes sense if Chaos is scum.
In post 2378, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2372, Shadow_step wrote:Why is Chaos faking a guilty on Toto, one scum down, he will only get one extra day.
I am bit surprised. It's a mad move. But there is way Chaos would get result on Toto unless I was role-blocked. A jail-keeper, Role block, Vig & cop. It's an impossible setup.
RB + JK is possible, but strongman + RB as scum roles sounds OP.

And can you all agree that I was right yesterday. All thought drama i had to go through to convince all of you. what a pain. :neutral:
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Post Post #2390 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:48 am

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Easy day is still young. let everyone post before hammer. I want toto to claim first.
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Post Post #2391 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:48 am

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In post 2384, Naomi-Tan wrote:VOTE: Chaos

As far as I'm concerned we vote Chaos now.

IF Chaos is green - They will be confirmed cop. Confirmed toto is Red and confirmed Arc is red
IF Chaos is red - I still think there is a chance toto is red given evidence and that after being JK'd there was no kill. this is for 3 reasons. during most of yesterday Drone was friendly towards Toto until the end where it looked like he was implying to lynch him for green cred. As there was no NK I think toto took it but was jailed. So no kill. this would make sense to me. So.. In both paths there is a chance of red toto.
Scum should just give up now basically.
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Post Post #2392 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:48 am

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In post 2388, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2386, Shadow_step wrote:How did that cop claim go un fucking CCed then?
cause you don't cc day 1
And we might not have a cop. Though with strongman it's probably pretty likely.
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Post Post #2393 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:48 am

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In post 2385, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2379, MortFeld wrote:I did read that Chaos said he had a guilty on Toto, I didn't know JK blocked investigative roles.

Base Role


A Jailkeeper (or Jailer)'s Night Action is one that protects its target from kills, but also Roleblocks its target. Unlike Doctor, Jailkeeper's protection extends to stopping every kill that would resolve on the target by default.
Because it is a combination Doctor and Roleblocker, Jailkeeper has a myriad of uses while not allowing broken combinations or exactly confirming anyone as Town or scum. Thus, it has risen to prominence as a very popular power role.
Because it is a Roleblocker, Jailkeeper is never allowed to self-target.
This role is a non-bastard version of Paranoid Doctor.

Read from here

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Toto

That says it roleblocks the target and saves them from being killed. which means the cop positive would still happened as its not roleblocking people who targeted them. We just have a double positive on toto.
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Post Post #2394 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:49 am

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two down and one to go.

Let's focus on the last scum.
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Post Post #2395 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:49 am

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In post 2389, ArcAngel9 wrote:And can you all agree that I was right yesterday. All thought drama i had to go through to convince all of you. what a pain.
You were right but this is exactly why you do not lynch a claimed cop day 1, they get easily outed.

If anything we lynched a stronger mafia PR.
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Post Post #2396 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:50 am

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In post 2389, ArcAngel9 wrote:And can you all agree that I was right yesterday. All thought drama i had to go through to convince all of you. what a pain
I still don't think there was 100% chance you were right though. As explained, day 1 is not the day to lynch a claimed cop. the cop claim will sort itself out eventually.

fast forward to day 2

the cop claim has sorted itself out

had you been wrong though and lynched chaos and flipped town, town would be screwed.


plus look what happened, we lynched another scum and that hammer got you to jk the 3rd scum. game over
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Post Post #2397 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:50 am

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In post 2393, Naomi-Tan wrote:That says it roleblocks the target and saves them from being killed. which means the cop positive would still happened as its not roleblocking people who targeted them. We just have a double positive on toto.
Dude :eek:
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Post Post #2398 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:50 am

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Yeah, JK'ing Toto doesn't roleblock me from targeting them, what the fuck.
Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!
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Post Post #2399 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:50 am

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In post 2394, ArcAngel9 wrote:two down and one to go.

Let's focus on the last scum.
all 3 scum are caught. nobody else to focus on
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