Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]

[Sondam]

uhhh Gamma you might need to unvote since you quoted wrong

~G

[Gamma Emerald]

What do you think BTD's motivation would be for posting that as scum? What do you think his motivation would be for posting that as town?
~Ruko

I find a lot of times scum don't think before posting and are just excited to talk about the things without realizing it's scummy to talk about the things / or that they might give slips if they talk about the things. I find this is what is possible here, that he didn't realize he had terminology available to him that was not available to others and went to talk as if it was shared knowledge when it wasn't. It's been a bit now I should probably go re-read and see how it all progressed and if I still feel that way about it.

Scum don't think about posting? Scum have daychat in this game. If they want to talk about something they know to be scummy, that is the most likely place for them to post it. In my experience, scum are less excited and more afraid of dropping scumtells, whereas Town ae more likely to just want to get their information across regardless of its scumminess. I just thought for a moment about what the setup would be like and also read rules etc. carefully. In the Sample PM, it states "None of the above applies to dark magic" so I reasoned from there. Because I read very carefully and think about what this could mean, I occasionally appear to know more than the average Townie.

This is clearly bad logic, but whether it is genuinely scummy or not I am not sure just yet. However, Sondam's other head, while unvoting me, is still opportunistic and giving practically no actual reason for the vote. This is a very weak scumread, and currently worth voting.

VOTE: Sondam

This is the towniest vote for Sondam so far

EBWOP

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Wisdom

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay so Dunn and BTD actually are the towniest people on the Sondam Wagon.

[Sondam]

I'm willing to not vote BTD because you guys have meta on them. I still don't like his reads though.

UNVOTE: BTD6

~G

[Gamma Emerald]

My read on him isn't really based on meta
But OK

[Dunnstral]

I'm willing to not vote BTD because you guys have meta on them.

Thought I was scum though?

[Prism]

Not able to devote as much time as I want to this right now, apologies.

For now my vote is still fine, as is any on Gamma. Don't like Sondam wagon. I want more from Chara and pisskop.

[Dunnstral]

aren't you voting me for saying "I don't" to iron and painting that as a hard defense of you

[Sondam]

I'm willing to not vote BTD because you guys have meta on them.

Thought I was scum though?

Where did I say you were town? lol

~G

[Gamma Emerald]

Reads atm:
Fire Assassin: unsorted
BATORU: unsorted
drealmerz7: unsorted
pisskop: unsorted
Wisdom: scum
Not Chara: scummy
Prism: scum
ironstove: town
Nosferatu: scummy
Sondam: town
Dunnstral: town
BTD6_Maker: town
May ISO Fire Nos pisskop dreal or BATORU

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm willing to not vote BTD because you guys have meta on them.

Thought I was scum though?

Where did I say you were town? lol

~G

You're trusting him on his meta read.

[Sondam]

I'm willing to not vote BTD because you guys have meta on them.

Thought I was scum though?

Where did I say you were town? lol

~G

You're trusting him on his meta read.

Not him. I was more talking about the BOROTU game they linked

~G

[Prism]

Prism: scum

Again for supposedly being more likely to use RQS as scum. God only knows how I'd ever manage to play as mafia if I can't even figure out how I prefer to start the game as town.

[Sondam]

Can you link a game where is?

~G

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p8031286

D1 in a game I played with him where he was town. My meta on him is probably somewhat stale but there are certain things for him that I think are NAI in general and the use of "weak" when specifying his reads early on is one of them. As is the vig and setup spec stuff.

~Ruko

This

~G

[Gamma Emerald]

I was all set to quote what Sondam just pointed out in BATORU's ISO

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah BATORU is solid town.

[Prism]

I'm interested to hear why people townread Dunnstral.

P-Edit: Agree on Batoru.

[Gamma Emerald]

@People can you please refer to Fire as Fire? Fire why your inning to games with your FA acc? Your trying to confuse me >.>

I believe I was a pre-in before you signed up.
Even so, if I formed such a dastardly plan, I would have probably announced it in sign ups.

Whats your read on Sondam?

scum. why was this question asked, Fire? ;>

Sondam: please tell me, in detail, why you are so very obvious town.

Saw this while ISOing Fire.
Bad post. Answering a question directed at our slot while avoid a more in depth question directed at theirs.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Fire I know you won't hear me and call me ATE'e or whatever, I'm not going to respond to you emotional. I want to cooprate with you logical wise to understand your scumread on me and deflect it. This is my step , now its your turn. What are your concerns?

I can't pinpoint my concerns yet, ill let you know when they become more available.

Fake read much?

[Gamma Emerald]

I am pretty sure scum are more hyper vigilant on knowing who is voting who than town are, as a rule of thumb.

I've been called scum for forgetting my past reads but this is like the opposite error. You assume scum would try to keep track of this. I can see why but it's still a fallacy.

[Dunnstral]

I'm interested to hear why people townread Dunnstral.

I am the light that shines upon this bleak town

[Gamma Emerald]

{prism, drealmer, ironstove, Sondam} are the people my gut liked the least

what don't you like about sondam?
or prism?

This'll be good.

[Gamma Emerald]

Though there are those who hold them in esteem, the reputation of the Nyx Family is permanently blackened by them being credited with the first usage of dark magic.

-Excerpt from

The Fifteen Families

by Frederick Kendall

Votecount 1.02

Sondam (3):

Wisdom, Fire Assassin, Not Chara

Dunnstral (2):

Nosferatu, Sondam

Mega Frozen (2):

BATORU, Prism

Not Chara (1):

BTD6_Maker

Nosferatu (1):

ironstove

ironstove (1):

Mega Frozen

BTD6_Maker (1):

drealmerz7

drealmerz7 (1):

Dunnstral

Fire Assassin (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-11-30 13:05:00).

@Mod: Can players gain spells without another players intervention or does it always have to be players intervention?
When spells are "compulsory and must use first opportunity" how does that work for something like a hated spell? Does that mean by end of day they give to another player?

No comment on both counts. I won't publicly answer questions relating to abilities, whether present in the game or not, unless those abilities are public.

Never noticed the flavor bit in this VC before. Interesting.

[Gamma Emerald]

Fire is a town read.
NC is a redder shade.